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66ChevyMax 12-22-2011 07:26 PM

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Sorry to hear that Alan.

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Originally Posted by Alan's Classic (Post 5078593)
All I can say is I should have tried it myself. Now I don't have a choice. I guess I do have a choice, but I can mess it up just as good as others. I'll post more later.
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chad64chevy 12-22-2011 07:28 PM

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man, that dont sound good! sorry to hear about the hood alan, are you going to try to fix it or look for another hood??

198plus 12-22-2011 07:42 PM

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You want have any problem fixing That ;)


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Originally Posted by Alan's Classic (Post 5078593)
All I can say is I should have tried it myself. Now I don't have a choice. I guess I do have a choice, but I can mess it up just as good as others. I'll post more later.
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flips72 12-22-2011 08:20 PM

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i agree with ronnie, you can do it, no problem.

McMurphy 12-22-2011 08:57 PM

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Oohhh I can tell there is some schooling coming next !!
I gotta tune in to learn ....

Though I AM sorry to hear your hood did not meet your expectations, I rest assured that your work to fix it will more than make up for it.

Alan's Classic 12-22-2011 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 66ChevyMax (Post 5078596)
Sorry to hear that Alan.

Thanks Brother!!

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Originally Posted by chad64chevy (Post 5078599)
man, that dont sound good! sorry to hear about the hood alan, are you going to try to fix it or look for another hood??

Oh, I will fix and learn something along the way. It's just gonna add more time than I expected to get the hood done.

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Originally Posted by 198plus (Post 5078617)
You want have any problem fixing That ;)

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Originally Posted by flips72 (Post 5078677)
i agree with ronnie, you can do it, no problem.

Thanks for the vote of confidence guys!!

Based on the info at the time I thought it would be a good idea to get a good metal guy (old school) to repair it. He came highly recommended and no doubt has some good skills. He was very confident when he said he could fix it. Today I show up and could tell right off the bat it wasn't right. He told me yesterday that it was ready and he fixed some other areas as well that weren't related. I told him from the start to not worry about anything else but the ridges. I'm guessing he felt guilty because he knew he didn't fix the problem so he buttered it up by doing the other old damage. He even admitted today he was scared to do anything else where the ridges were. He worked with me on it while I was there and got a little more out. He was too busy trying to show a 69 Camaro to my coworker (it was nice). I grabbed the slapping file and did some by myself. He was cringing while I was doing it. He couldn't even watch. After it was all said and done he rubbed his hand on it and said that particular area feels better. Huhm.......I'm a green horn. I've got a lot to learn in this technique, but i will get it.

The other thing that I didn't understand was why did he run a 36 grit disc over it. The only thing I use 36 grit on is filler. Plus it makes it hard to feel the metal. I ran over the 36 scratches with a 8" bondo eater with 80 grit to smooth everything out. I would have left the dp90 alone so i could see and feel everything. I know I would eventually have to sand on it, but I would have used 80 grit.

Pics of non-progress

daverod 12-22-2011 09:19 PM

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Must have thought he could sand it out. That's somthing I would try.:smoke: So whats the plan now?:waah:

Strodder 12-22-2011 09:37 PM

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That sucks Alan. He really screwed that hood up. :me2::no:

65Custom 12-22-2011 11:40 PM

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I'm speechless, I don't know what to say.

Alan's Classic 12-23-2011 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by daverod (Post 5078801)
Must have thought he could sand it out. That's somthing I would try.:smoke: So whats the plan now?:waah:

:haha: Beat it into shape. Trial and error style. :haha: I posted a pic of a slapping file I will use on the hood. I used one on my bedside and liked it. I also had decent results today using one on the hood.

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Originally Posted by Strodder (Post 5078837)
That sucks Alan. He really screwed that hood up. :me2::no:

Trying not to get upset about it. ;) I consider this a good learning experience not only shrinking metal on a big panel, but don't let anyone else mess up something that I can mess up myself. ;)

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Originally Posted by 65Custom (Post 5079083)
I'm speechless, I don't know what to say.

Join the crowd. ;)

Trying to figure out the wiring to the wiper motor and switch. I can make it work like I have it wired in the pic, but how does the 2nd speed work? The yellow wire is a jumper, the green to ground/switch and the red on top is 12v. Don't mind the lower red wire. I think my 59 impala switch is fried. It only has continuity in one position. With the yellow jumper wire in place it is low speed. If I remove it it goes to high. How do I do that with a switch. I checked the FAQ and posted a pic below of the diagram. I'm not going to explain (confuse) anymore right now. I'll just wait to see what is said. While I do some more searching. I did bench check the motor with instructions off Bruces88 (I think) thread. It seemed to pass the test.

57truckguy 12-23-2011 02:45 AM

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:chevy:Alan, so sorry to hear about the hood... Heck I could have done that.. LOL 36 grit on a farely straight hood.. NOT in MY shop... I've seen ridges such as yours taken out with a shrinking hammer and file. takes a while but can be done... Check the net for videos of medal shrinking or get a copy of the medal working DVD from Eastwood. I hear it is pretty good...

Looks to me that the switch is history. Let me look in my pile of parts.. I might, I say Might, have one from a 57 sitting around.. I believe they are the same switch. Let me look as I know I put a new one in mine a few years ago. It came with a kit I bought for the windshield wipers.:chevy:

56taskforce 12-23-2011 04:02 AM

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Hey Alan sorry about your hood . I watched my cousin take the waves out of the side of a 66 Coronet with a torch and a cold wet rag but wow it looked like quite an art. I know that he is good at it because they painted that car black and it was straight as can be.
On the other hand the rest of the truck is coming along great.:metal:

Not to highjack your thread but most of the time I have spent on this board has been right here and I need to reach as many people here that may know me as I can. My email [Grant_Ensrud@msn.com] was hacked so it is no longer good. If you receive any mail from it, it is not me and you should block it.
I will change my profile for this reason as well. I also ask that the site monitors post warning about my old email address where it may do the most good. Sorry guys I amd not very computer savvy an just want to make sure no one gets hurt buy this scammer.

57truckguy 12-25-2011 12:36 AM

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Hey Alan, just your luck, the newest issue of Hot Rodding Mag has an article on shrinking dents and creases in medal.. Looks like it is just up your alley.. Just got my copy today.. the 24th. The article looks like it has all the info you might need.. By the way according to the article 36 grit was the correct one to use... Who Knew !! Check it out..

theastronaut 12-25-2011 09:18 AM

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Alan, I'm posting from my phone so I can't really see how the hood is warped, but I've had great results using a shrinking disc on large, low crown areas. It would be easy to over-shrink an area with a torch/rag so I wouldn't recommend trying that. There are some good videos on YouTube showing how to shrink metal with a shrinking disc. A stud gun with a shrinking tip is also good for slower, more controlled shrinking. Hope you have a merry Christmas!
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65Custom 12-25-2011 05:34 PM

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Hey Alan!!

What year is the Windshield washer motor?

Alan's Classic 12-26-2011 12:52 AM

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Thanks guys, I'll post replies in my next post. Just wanted to say Merry Christmas to all my friends here. God Bless
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Strodder 12-26-2011 10:28 AM

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Merry Christmas to you and your family too. :metal:

likaroc13 12-27-2011 08:26 PM

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hate to hear about the hood Alan...hope you get it worked out yourself, & i have faith that you will

Alan's Classic 12-28-2011 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 57truckguy (Post 5079348)
:chevy:Alan, so sorry to hear about the hood... Heck I could have done that.. LOL 36 grit on a farely straight hood.. NOT in MY shop... I've seen ridges such as yours taken out with a shrinking hammer and file. takes a while but can be done... Check the net for videos of medal shrinking or get a copy of the medal working DVD from Eastwood. I hear it is pretty good...

Looks to me that the switch is history. Let me look in my pile of parts.. I might, I say Might, have one from a 57 sitting around.. I believe they are the same switch. Let me look as I know I put a new one in mine a few years ago. It came with a kit I bought for the windshield wipers.:chevy:

Thanks, did you locate a switch? Read on for the progress on the hood.

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Originally Posted by 56taskforce (Post 5079395)
Hey Alan sorry about your hood . I watched my cousin take the waves out of the side of a 66 Coronet with a torch and a cold wet rag but wow it looked like quite an art. I know that he is good at it because they painted that car black and it was straight as can be.
On the other hand the rest of the truck is coming along great.:metal:

I'm not having to use heat yet.

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Originally Posted by 57truckguy (Post 5082395)
Hey Alan, just your luck, the newest issue of Hot Rodding Mag has an article on shrinking dents and creases in medal.. Looks like it is just up your alley.. Just got my copy today.. the 24th. The article looks like it has all the info you might need.. By the way according to the article 36 grit was the correct one to use... Who Knew !! Check it out..

Thanks for the headsup, I'll try to get a copy. I'll have to read the article first. I think 36 might work good in some areas, but not in this application on my hood. My opinion is it will remove too much metal which thins the metal and will create more problems. Just my .02. ;)

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Originally Posted by theastronaut (Post 5082591)
Alan, I'm posting from my phone so I can't really see how the hood is warped, but I've had great results using a shrinking disc on large, low crown areas. It would be easy to over-shrink an area with a torch/rag so I wouldn't recommend trying that. There are some good videos on YouTube showing how to shrink metal with a shrinking disc. A stud gun with a shrinking tip is also good for slower, more controlled shrinking. Hope you have a merry Christmas!
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I've always wanted to try a shrinking disc. Right now I'm having good luck with a slapping file. Thanks for the input.
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Originally Posted by 65Custom (Post 5083098)
Hey Alan!!

What year is the Windshield washer motor?

I don't really know. It came with the truck and looks to be new.

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Originally Posted by Strodder (Post 5083785)
Merry Christmas to you and your family too. :metal:

:thumbs:

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Originally Posted by likaroc13 (Post 5086163)
hate to hear about the hood Alan...hope you get it worked out yourself, & i have faith that you will

I'm gaining more faith in myself as I go. Thanks.

I've been snowed under at work this week, but was able to get 3.0 hrs on the hood last week. The peck marks are from the other guy. I've been using the slapping file and slowly playing with it to see what happens with some trail and error. With what I've learned I'm making it work. Wish I had done this from the start. Hindsight :dohh: I guess I'm about half way done banging on it. I'm using 80 grit on a block to check for highs.

niterider65 12-28-2011 12:43 AM

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keeping my fingers crossed alan its lookin good :metal:
take your time !! i know its a pain ..:chevy:

65Custom 12-28-2011 12:54 PM

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Wow that looks so much better than what the other guy did, who was supposed to be a old school metal guy.

Alan don't ever doubt your skills it is obvious from the pics of what you have done that you have better skills and more knowledge of metal working that the other guy ever had

57truckguy 12-28-2011 06:58 PM

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alan, just spent the better part of an hour looking for the windshield wiper switch,, must have either put it where I wouldn't lose it or threw it out.. If I did that it was toast anyway.. sorry can't find it. I use an aftermarket switch from Napa and put the orginal nob on it.. looks real good.

Alan's Classic 12-29-2011 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by niterider65 (Post 5086780)
keeping my fingers crossed alan its lookin good :metal:
take your time !! i know its a pain ..:chevy:

Thanks, and it is very time consuming

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Originally Posted by 65Custom (Post 5087439)
Wow that looks so much better than what the other guy did, who was supposed to be a old school metal guy.

Alan don't ever doubt your skills it is obvious from the pics of what you have done that you have better skills and more knowledge of metal working that the other guy ever had

Thanks, it is scary working on a part that is hard to come by in good condition. So far so good.

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Originally Posted by 57truckguy (Post 5087939)
alan, just spent the better part of an hour looking for the windshield wiper switch,, must have either put it where I wouldn't lose it or threw it out.. If I did that it was toast anyway.. sorry can't find it. I use an aftermarket switch from Napa and put the orginal nob on it.. looks real good.

Thanks for looking and the info.

Sneak peak of the seats.

sdailey 12-29-2011 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan's Classic (Post 5089407)
Thanks, and it is very time consuming



Thanks, it is scary working on a part that is hard to come by in good condition. So far so good.



Thanks for looking and the info.

Sneak peak of the seats.



From what I see, they look AWESOME!!!!

With this latest hood fiasco you're well over due for some good fortune. Hopefully the seats put a smile on your face.

VeronikA 12-29-2011 02:54 PM

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Alan I went thru your topic and have to say I love your story. The progress and all those pics you've shared with us talks itself. Thanks a lot for sharing! Great jot! Keep at it! And totally love your new shop! Looks beautiful!

VA72C10 12-29-2011 04:14 PM

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Glad to see progress being made on the hood....and those seats... :metal:

chevy_man5 12-29-2011 04:17 PM

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That's not fair Alan!! You can't just give us a sneak peak!

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Originally Posted by Alan's Classic (Post 5089407)

Sneak peak of the seats.


chad64chevy 12-29-2011 04:58 PM

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alan, hoods looking alot better!! i like the seats, i got a good idea, got the houndstooth in the middles?! got anymore of the wiring done?? thats about all you got left aint it, the hood, trim pieces, seats and a lil wiring?? anyways looking good

McMurphy 12-29-2011 06:02 PM

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Looks like your seats are going to accentuate your cab very well!
Happy for you man!!!

Alan's Classic 12-29-2011 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sdailey (Post 5089493)
From what I see, they look AWESOME!!!!

With this latest hood fiasco you're well over due for some good fortune. Hopefully the seats put a smile on your face.

Thanks neighbor!!

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Originally Posted by VeronikA (Post 5089511)
Alan I went thru your topic and have to say I love your story. The progress and all those pics you've shared with us talks itself. Thanks a lot for sharing! Great jot! Keep at it! And totally love your new shop! Looks beautiful!

Thanks for the kind words!!

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Originally Posted by VA72C10 (Post 5089631)
Glad to see progress being made on the hood....and those seats... :metal:

Thanks man. No time to work on the hood right now. Really busy at work.

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Originally Posted by chevy_man5 (Post 5089636)
That's not fair Alan!! You can't just give us a sneak peak!

I just did. :haha:

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Originally Posted by chad64chevy (Post 5089695)
alan, hoods looking alot better!! i like the seats, i got a good idea, got the houndstooth in the middles?! got anymore of the wiring done?? thats about all you got left aint it, the hood, trim pieces, seats and a lil wiring?? anyways looking good

Thanks, and I haven't done much to the truck lately. With Christmas there wasn't much extra time.

I never got any input on the proper connections I need to make the wipers work. Oh yeah, I guess I need a good switch. :dohh:


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Originally Posted by McMurphy (Post 5089795)
Looks like your seats are going to accentuate your cab very well!
Happy for you man!!!

Yeah, I'm very pleased so far with the seats. All i have done is pick them up and sit them in the shop. I haven't even sat in them yet. ;)


Here's the full view. That's dust on the back of the seat, not scrapes. ;)

Strodder 12-29-2011 09:53 PM

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Seats look AWESOME> :metal::metal:

Check out the new issue of Rod & Custom. They have a tech article on shrinking metal with a scrunching disc. It has a Black & White 57 Chevy on the cover.

chevy_man5 12-29-2011 10:10 PM

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Those seats look great!!! Good choice!!

pdxhall 12-29-2011 10:10 PM

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I love the seats, Alan. The tweed in the insert kinda gives them the period look. They should look killer in the truck.

Woogeroo 12-29-2011 10:21 PM

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Those seats are going to look really good with that orange paint!

Nice.

-W

McMurphy 12-30-2011 12:45 AM

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Man I am throughly impressed with those seats !!
They turned out so nice!

I envy your ability to envision this stuff in your head well enough to get stuff like that done. I on the other hand have to draw it out to make sure that I like on paper what my brain cells are telling me is cool.... :lol:

Soooo how does one get their truck in a magazine?
I ask because when yours makes it, I want to get a copy so I can tell people I watched it get built, and point out the things on my truck I stole, or learned, from you!!

1enick72 12-30-2011 01:00 AM

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Your seats came out great, very nice.
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57truckguy 12-30-2011 05:11 AM

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Alan, was at the local watering hole yesterday and what to my wondering eye did appear but a 66 GMC on bags , orange, and howlstooth inserts in his seats simular to yours.. That is 3 vehicles I'm seen in the last year with the same inserts, the other 2 were camaros which were pace cars for the 500 in the 60's with that same fabric in the interior.. I bought a plain jane camaro 327, 4 speed that was sitting right next to one on the show room floor at Blossom Chevy in 67. My how things come back around.

57truckguy 12-30-2011 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by McMurphy (Post 5090624)
Man I am throughly impressed with those seats !!
They turned out so nice!

I envy your ability to envision this stuff in your head well enough to get stuff like that done. I on the other hand have to draw it out to make sure that I like on paper what my brain cells are telling me is cool.... :lol:

Soooo how does one get their truck in a magazine?
I ask because when yours makes it, I want to get a copy so I can tell people I watched it get built, and point out the things on my truck I stole, or learned, from you!!

well if you haven't learned anything, stole something, or seen something new in this thread you've been asleep for way to long. LOL :lol:

65Custom 12-30-2011 02:44 PM

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Seats turned out nice, I like the orange thread it really sets the seats apart from the rest

56taskforce 12-30-2011 02:59 PM

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Wow seat looks awesome!!! Great choice of materials rich looking leather and a period correct hounds tooth center it makes that modern seat look like it came in the truck. I can sum it up in one word CLASS. Great job Alan!!!!


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