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Strodder 01-30-2012 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by McMurphy (Post 5153712)
Dennis could you please link me where to get that air cleaner? I have not seen it in any of the catalogs yet and I really want one!

Here ya go McMurphy. ;)
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Retro-...aner,1052.html

McMurphy 01-30-2012 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Strodder (Post 5155340)

Caddilac/Oldsmobile .... no wonder it isnt in my truck catalogs!!
Thanks Dennis :metal:

Strodder 01-31-2012 11:07 AM

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Your welcome McMurphy. ;)

daverod 01-31-2012 03:44 PM

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I think you just caused a price increase on the ones that are on Ebay.:smoke:I want one. :lol:

VA72C10 01-31-2012 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan's Classic (Post 5152977)
I'll start with the valve covers being painted the roof color with orange engraving and go from there. The brake booster is already the roof color. ;)

I guess the flash must have thrown me off...I see it now and that'll definitely help tie it all together! :chevy:

Strodder 01-31-2012 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by daverod (Post 5158135)
I think you just caused a price increase on the ones that are on Ebay.:smoke:I want one. :lol:

On E-Bay they cost more. I found them cheeper at Speedway.

Alan's Classic 01-31-2012 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Strodder (Post 5153146)
I have my own ideas that's a little different, but still on track. Ditch the chrome air cleaner for a painted one to match the Orange & silver Valve covers. And use all chrome bolts on the valve covers to accent it.

I do like that style air cleaner. Someday it might be an upgrade.

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Originally Posted by 65Custom (Post 5153893)
Another option paint the valve covers your Grille Color and then orange lettering?

The grill and the roof are the same color. That is my plan right now. It might be awhile, we had a guy go down in his back at work, so the work load has increased for the rest of us. Making hay while the sun is shinning. ;)

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Originally Posted by 57truckguy (Post 5154808)
Anymore options and we'll have to start a new thread..:metal::metal:

:haha:

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Originally Posted by VA72C10 (Post 5158150)
I guess the flash must have thrown me off...I see it now and that'll definitely help tie it all together! :chevy:

Thanks, I believe it will as well. ;)

McMurphy 02-01-2012 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan's Classic (Post 5158901)
The grill and the roof are the same color. That is my plan right now. It might be awhile, we had a guy go down in his back at work, so the work load has increased for the rest of us. Making hay while the sun is shinning. ;)


Hmmmm I think perhaps the term "Making Hay" may have a different meaning down there in the south.....
Up in the PNW where I am from it is the sort of thing that gets you shot at by a mad daddy on a summers night.....
;) :lol:

Alan's Classic 02-01-2012 12:54 AM

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Hmmmm I think perhaps the term "Making Hay" may have a different meaning down there in the south.....
Up in the PNW where I am from it is the sort of thing that gets you shot at by a mad daddy on a summers night.....
;) :lol:

Down here you "make it when the gettin's good". :haha:

I hung the headlight mounting panel tonight and dropped 2 bolts in the bumper. The headlights work hi/low. I figured out I have 2 pins crossed in the speedo pod. When I dim the head lights the gauge lights lite up and the headlight indicator comes on when the lights are turned on. oops. :lol: Minor fix. The headlights are bright as heck.

I got an original bumper to fit, but this repop doesn't. It mainly has to do with the right rail where it was hit. A little work at the bolt should go right in.

The upper radiator hose tbe is powder coated and installed. Just need a couple more clamps. Shannon ordered me a billet radiator cap and tested it to make sure it fit.

If you notice next to the water neck is the temp sensor for the fan relay. I have to pick up ignition power. I really don't want to run a wire to the switch. I thought about tapping into the alt. if possible of the distributor ign feed. I could also come off of the choke. I can't fit another wire into the tubes along the valve covers. Ideas??

Strodder 02-01-2012 11:04 AM

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On this 396 in the 57 Panel I'm working on I installed the fan and temp sensor in a t-fitting because on this old intake manifold there was only 1 hole for the sensors. I hid best I could the wires down the front of the engine to the fan relay on the core support. Just an idea. Have fun. :lol:

http://belair.smugmug.com/Other/Kust...1050825-XL.jpg

http://belair.smugmug.com/Other/Kust...1050809-XL.jpg

57truckguy 02-01-2012 05:10 PM

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Alan, I'm trying to figure out why you need power at that location. My temp sensor is a grounding source to turn on the fan, or complete the circuit, when the temp gets hot enough to close the switch in the sensor. Most sensor are just on/off switches to ground, at least the ones I've used on my vehicles. Your wiring kit should have a power wire in it for the fan. If you want I could get the wiring diagram I used for my fan!
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57truckguy 02-01-2012 05:19 PM

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Found it.. http://www.vintageair.com/download/0...%20Diagram.pdf
This is similar to what I used
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65Custom 02-01-2012 06:19 PM

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I guess your picture of the Grile when it was laying down gave me the impression it was a darker color, no excuses for not getting up there and seeing it in person

Strodder 02-01-2012 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 57truckguy (Post 5160213)
Found it.. http://www.vintageair.com/download/0...%20Diagram.pdf
This is similar to what I used
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That's the same one I used. :metal:

Alan's Classic 02-01-2012 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Strodder (Post 5159612)
On this 396 in the 57 Panel I'm working on I installed the fan and temp sensor in a t-fitting because on this old intake manifold there was only 1 hole for the sensors. I hid best I could the wires down the front of the engine to the fan relay on the core support. Just an idea. Have fun. :lol:

Looks nice!!

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Originally Posted by 57truckguy (Post 5160195)
Alan, I'm trying to figure out why you need power at that location. My temp sensor is a grounding source to turn on the fan, or complete the circuit, when the temp gets hot enough to close the switch in the sensor. Most sensor are just on/off switches to ground, at least the ones I've used on my vehicles. Your wiring kit should have a power wire in it for the fan. If you want I could get the wiring diagram I used for my fan!
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See diagram below. The yellow wire to the temp switch is the question. I hooked the green up to the power wire on the AC compressor.

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Originally Posted by 65Custom (Post 5160336)
I guess your picture of the Grile when it was laying down gave me the impression it was a darker color, no excuses for not getting up there and seeing it in person

The flash washed it out. ;)

57truckguy 02-02-2012 02:11 AM

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If you use the diagram from Vinage Air you elimate the need to run power throught the temp switch. It pretty similuar but uses fewer wires... From the relay Pin 30 would go to a circuit breaker then to the battery or 12 volt source.
Pin 87 would go to the fans just as you now have.
Pin 86 would have one wire to the temp sensor
Pin 85 would have one wire to the 12 volt ignition on/off.
You could add an optional on by adding a wire from Pin 86 to the ac compressor wire some where not on the engine in the wiring someplace. You would need to check you wiring diagram to see where you could tap into that wire.. Should be easy and no need to run a power wire back to the ignition switch
By using the Vinage Air wiring diagram you don't need the 30 amp fuse in the fan circuit but do use a 40 amp circuti breaker in the 12 volt battery supply circuit.. Circuit breaker makes it better if the fan should ever over draw the dircuit it would kick out then reset in a few minutes giving you time to save the engine from overheating due to a blown fuse. Just my thoughts.

C@rnut001 02-02-2012 03:27 AM

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It is all coming together and looking great! It is so cool to see it this close and I bet you are sure happy to see it getting closer and closer. Keep it up and thanks for updating.

daverod 02-02-2012 11:27 AM

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Zoom zoom.:mm:

Alan's Classic 02-03-2012 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 57truckguy (Post 5161276)
If you use the diagram from Vinage Air you elimate the need to run power throught the temp switch. It pretty similuar but uses fewer wires... From the relay Pin 30 would go to a circuit breaker then to the battery or 12 volt source.
Pin 87 would go to the fans just as you now have.
Pin 86 would have one wire to the temp sensor
Pin 85 would have one wire to the 12 volt ignition on/off.
You could add an optional on by adding a wire from Pin 86 to the ac compressor wire some where not on the engine in the wiring someplace. You would need to check you wiring diagram to see where you could tap into that wire.. Should be easy and no need to run a power wire back to the ignition switch
By using the Vinage Air wiring diagram you don't need the 30 amp fuse in the fan circuit but do use a 40 amp circuti breaker in the 12 volt battery supply circuit.. Circuit breaker makes it better if the fan should ever over draw the dircuit it would kick out then reset in a few minutes giving you time to save the engine from overheating due to a blown fuse. Just my thoughts.

Sounds easier and looks easier. I believe there would be a special temp switch to do this, correct? I need one that switches, not one for the gauge. I'll do some studying on this. Thanks for the input.

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Originally Posted by C@rnut001 (Post 5161335)
It is all coming together and looking great! It is so cool to see it this close and I bet you are sure happy to see it getting closer and closer. Keep it up and thanks for updating.

Yes, it is very exciting. Just nervous to turn the switch. ;)

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Originally Posted by daverod (Post 5161663)
Zoom zoom.:mm:

It's getting closer. Hey, wait it minute it's not a Mazda. :lol:

Didn't do much except clean up a little, installed the passenger sunvisor and took the skates out from under it. I'm use to it being higher, now with the skates out it's totally different. I took an areial shot also.

57truckguy 02-03-2012 02:29 AM

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Alan , I just went to Napa an ask for a temp switch that turned on at 190, Real cheap and easy.

I figured that I wouldn't need the compressor switch since anytime the engine gets to 190 the fan would come on anyway.. Some add an additonal fan to come on when the ac compressor is on for the extra insurance to keep the engine cool during slow( parades,etc,) driving. May be needed may not. depends on how good your cooling system is setup.

I acually used the triary switch setup, a little more complated but a safer system for the ac..

If I had it to do over I would probably go with the binary system to give some protection to the compressor and keep the wiring simplar.

57truckguy 02-03-2012 02:40 AM

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Here is the controler I used on my jeep to control the fan at all times. I really like it as it gives you adjustable temp control for the fan, compressor turn on for the fan, and run after ignition shuf off to cool the raditor and engine, and has only one wire to the engine and thats to the compressor. Very simple and very compact and very easy to install.. Only 79.95 plus shiping... Brian is an engineer and designed and builds these.. They will handle any fan you may wish to use even the heavy amp draw mark VIII fan many of us jeep owners install to cool the engines.

57truckguy 02-03-2012 02:41 AM

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Forgot to include the link here it is..

http://dccontrol.com/relay_controllers.htm

Check it out I think you will like it, its classy just like your build.

Alan's Classic 02-03-2012 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 57truckguy (Post 5163391)
Alan , I just went to Napa an ask for a temp switch that turned on at 190, Real cheap and easy.

I figured that I wouldn't need the compressor switch since anytime the engine gets to 190 the fan would come on anyway.. Some add an additonal fan to come on when the ac compressor is on for the extra insurance to keep the engine cool during slow( parades,etc,) driving. May be needed may not. depends on how good your cooling system is setup.

I acually used the triary switch setup, a little more complated but a safer system for the ac..

If I had it to do over I would probably go with the binary system to give some protection to the compressor and keep the wiring simplar.

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Originally Posted by 57truckguy (Post 5163400)
Here is the controler I used on my jeep to control the fan at all times. I really like it as it gives you adjustable temp control for the fan, compressor turn on for the fan, and run after ignition shuf off to cool the raditor and engine, and has only one wire to the engine and thats to the compressor. Very simple and very compact and very easy to install.. Only 79.95 plus shiping... Brian is an engineer and designed and builds these.. They will handle any fan you may wish to use even the heavy amp draw mark VIII fan many of us jeep owners install to cool the engines.

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Originally Posted by 57truckguy (Post 5163401)
Forgot to include the link here it is..

http://dccontrol.com/relay_controllers.htm

Check it out I think you will like it, its classy just like your build.

Thanks for all the help. Since I didn't plan on a trianary switch I'll run with out it. I might change my mind before I get the AC done. I'm going to get it running and on the road then do the AC. I'll check on the check temp switch for now.

I was able to spend about 6 hours on the hood today. I wiped it then guide coated it and used air tools to knock off the crust. Then I guide coated and blocked with 80. The top is done with 80. I still have to do the sides. Then i will guide coat and block with 120. If all is good I will buzz over with 180 and apply the slick sand.

allaboutchevelles 02-03-2012 10:48 PM

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Looking real good. I know its going to turn out perfect for you.

flips72 02-03-2012 11:03 PM

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hoods looking good, but i knew a man with your skills have no problem with that.

57truckguy 02-04-2012 03:44 AM

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Alan, Sorry I thought that since you are south you would be running with an AC for sure... Since you aren't then go with the simplest diagram and be doen with it... Who needs more headackes... LOl

daverod 02-04-2012 01:55 PM

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You should make alittle movie of when you turn the key for the first time. Even if it does'nt start the first time. Be sure and get a close up of your face. Maybe a big fat chew in and a pinner hanging out.

Alan's Classic 02-04-2012 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by allaboutchevelles (Post 5164992)
Looking real good. I know its going to turn out perfect for you.

Thanks, I hope so. When it gets close to the end it's hard not to cut corners by saying that's good enough. I have to keep the integrity.

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Originally Posted by flips72 (Post 5165015)
hoods looking good, but i knew a man with your skills have no problem with that.

:thumbs:

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Originally Posted by 57truckguy (Post 5165421)
Alan, Sorry I thought that since you are south you would be running with an AC for sure... Since you aren't then go with the simplest diagram and be doen with it... Who needs more headackes... LOl

No need to be sorry, I will be running AC. It will be hooked up later. I'm still not sure where I will run my lines for the AC.

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Originally Posted by daverod (Post 5165958)
You should make alittle movie of when you turn the key for the first time. Even if it does'nt start the first time. Be sure and get a close up of your face. Maybe a big fat chew in and a pinner hanging out.

Sorry we missed the first expression. Believe me it was a look of concern. Wondering what was gonna leak, burn, blow up etc. lol

I filled the radiator with almost 4 gallons of 50/50 with my vac pump. I sucked the system down to make sure it would hold a vac.

http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...2-02-03005.jpg

http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...2-02-03007.jpg

http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...2-02-03008.jpg

Well, it is alive. Start up was pretty good. First the lines on the tranny were loose. Then the tranny cooler lines on the radiator leaked. After several times tightening down I thought something was wrong. My gut was right. After removeing the lines we discovered there weren't any flares in the radiator. I called Summitt and they said it's 1/4" NPT. Shannon and I spent 3-4 hours looking for a fitting. No luck so I just ran a bypass hose for now.

http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...2-02-04001.jpg

Line fittings are very confussing to me. It's a 5/16" OD line with inverted flare to 1/4" NPT. Correct like this one.

http://www.valleyhydraulic.com/store...g/202small.jpg

Here is a video of it running. I still have some tuning to do.



Cameron 1137 02-04-2012 09:51 PM

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man that sounds good!

chad64chevy 02-04-2012 10:04 PM

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man alan, when i clicked on the video and heard it running i just got a big grin on my face, lol!! great video, finding the leaks are just part of the progress! i think you'll be done before summer get here and the rate your going!! i think i got another year on mine before its road ready!! keep the videos coming, there better the pictures, lol!!

allaboutchevelles 02-04-2012 10:34 PM

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:cong: sounds great. very nice

likaroc13 02-04-2012 11:08 PM

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already congratulated on Facebook, but i think it's worth another...so, :cong: :metal:

greg65 02-05-2012 12:14 AM

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Sounds great Alan. It's all down hill from here.

66ChevyMax 02-05-2012 01:59 AM

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Sounds great, congrats.
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57truckguy 02-05-2012 02:55 AM

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Very well done... classy as always.

flips72 02-05-2012 09:41 AM

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sounds great as everyone else has said... now quit grinning and get back to work:lol:

daverod 02-05-2012 12:55 PM

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Congrats..... You need to find another project....Fast.

Jeff La 02-06-2012 12:31 AM

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Glad you got it going, sounds good.

Alan's Classic 02-06-2012 12:38 AM

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man that sounds good!

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man alan, when i clicked on the video and heard it running i just got a big grin on my face, lol!! great video, finding the leaks are just part of the progress! i think you'll be done before summer get here and the rate your going!! i think i got another year on mine before its road ready!! keep the videos coming, there better the pictures, lol!!

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Originally Posted by allaboutchevelles (Post 5166828)
:cong: sounds great. very nice

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Originally Posted by likaroc13 (Post 5166901)
already congratulated on Facebook, but i think it's worth another...so, :cong: :metal:

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Sounds great Alan. It's all down hill from here.

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Sounds great, congrats.
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Originally Posted by 57truckguy (Post 5167319)
Very well done... classy as always.

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Originally Posted by flips72 (Post 5167528)
sounds great as everyone else has said... now quit grinning and get back to work:lol:

Thanks for all the kind comments guys!! BTW, i'm still grinnin'

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Originally Posted by daverod (Post 5167959)
Congrats..... You need to find another project....Fast.

Dave, I can't afford to do another. If I do another it will be on someone elses dime. ;)

I'm such a tard sometimes. When I fired it and it ran for a while I noticed the cooling fan didn't come on. I jumped it and later found that there wasn't any power coming from the fuse block to the relay on the radiator support. I wish I would have paid attention before, because the fuse panel has a fan relay built into it. In the schematic the right 2 terminals are for the for the fan relay. The green is the ground. At this point I'm going to ground the relay in the cab and just use the relay out front.

Since it can move under it's own power, I pulled it outside and gave it the first official bath. Of coarse I took some pics as well.

bubba327 02-06-2012 12:48 AM

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Alan I love the U-tube clip.. You have a driver!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Congratulations we are all like a bunch of proud dads! way to go!:bann::bann:


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