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Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
After restoring a '65 C10 at work ('65 C10 Build Thread), I wanted to find one to build for myself. I didn't want a show truck like the '65 turned out to be; more of a solid beater that was nice enough to tinker with and drive as found. I hunted around and looked at a lot of truck, and nearly bought a red/white '66 swb/bbw (went and looked, couldn't get together on the price, called back the next day and upped my offer, he accepted- then sold the truck within the 30 minutes it took for me to get there!) before my dad told me about this one. I knew our mechanic is into 64-66 C10's and that he had a pretty nice project truck but I never thought to ask about it because I assumed he was going to finish restoring it eventually. He had even mentioned that he had a friend that he was trying to talk into doing the metalwork for the truck. Anyways, my dad was talking with him and mentioned that I was looking for a solid 64-66 to drive. About a week later, he calls my dad and said after thinking about it, he would be willing to sell his project truck to me if I was interested in it so he could work on his other '66. I'd seen the truck before but never really looked at it up close. Out of all the trucks I've looked at locally, its definitly the straightest and most solid of all of them by far. He had already had the frame and all suspension pieces blasted and powdercoated satin black. The suspension is fully rebuilt and has new front disc brakes and 2.5" dropped spindles. The rear axle has been rebuilt and has 3.08 gears and 3" dropped springs. And since he's out mechanic, of course we already trust that all the work was done correctly. There's nothing I'd do any different with the frame and suspension if I'd done it myself (other than lower it a little more). I also got the original wheels in the deal.
My plans are to finish running the brake and fuel lines on the frame, install a bolt in C notch and 5 inch dropped springs in the rear, add 2" springs to the front, and install front and rear sway bars. I'm going to keep the original wheels on it for now and run narrow-redline tires from Diamondback Radials. It came with a new GM crate 350/290 hp engine but its already on craigslist for sale. I've tracked down the original matching numbers engine and trans but if I can't buy it back then my plans are to use a Vortec 4200 from an '06-up Trailblazer/Envoy. They come with 290hp and 277tq stock. I'm planning on doing away with the factory computer/efi and having an individual runner intake made so I can run three-two barrel Dellorto side draft carbs. The ignition will be Ford EDIS/Megajolt. As for the body, there's a little bit of rust at the bottom of the kick panels and one of the fenders that I'll have to fix. The paint is good enough to fix and blend a few areas and drive as-is. So there's the story, here are the pics. One of the loads of parts. (and don't park near newly licensed high school kids!) http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...8_193207_n.jpg The refurb'd frame. http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._7263622_n.jpg http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._3180120_n.jpg All new suspension. Late model steering box already installed. http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._2117717_n.jpg http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._3112203_n.jpg http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...8_909379_n.jpg http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._4926678_n.jpg http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...8_984769_n.jpg http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...8_227003_n.jpg New bumpers. Although the front bumper has the right shape, the mounting holes are too far apart for the thru-frame bolts. Don't know what its for? http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._5863970_n.jpg The cab. http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._2163112_n.jpg The PO had started to shave the firewall but thankfully only got as far as removing some paint. http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._2539339_n.jpg Perfect sheetmetal on the bed. http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._7432425_n.jpg http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._6933266_n.jpg Rust free doors. The PO had started scraping paint off the bottom of this one, will have to blend paint into these areas. http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._4189483_n.jpg More parts. http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._8117161_n.jpg Original aluminum grill. http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._3822244_n.jpg I'll be updating the thread as I have the time and money to make progress. Updates may come slow for awhile, especially with the 95 degree+ heat and high humidity we've had lately. |
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Nice find ;)
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Last night I got some lights put up in the barn I'll be working out of. It's been too hot lately in the daytime to do much outdoors so this way I can work after the sun goes down.
http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._3423304_n.jpg Some shots of the rust. Not bad for our area, and none of the other trucks I looked at were anywhere near this solid. The first pic is the worst spot on all of the truck. I'll probably section the rocker in the door jamb (so the cuts/welds/paint blend won't show on the outside) to get to the inner panel rust. http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._5640247_n.jpg http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._2399349_n.jpg http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...8_296847_n.jpg http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._5565442_n.jpg Solid rockers!! http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._8361503_n.jpg http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._3827033_n.jpg Inside of the bed is in great shape. I'll see if I can salvage the bed rails and have them powdercoated. http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._6933266_n.jpg Not even any surface rust on the inside of the bed panels. http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._2440764_n.jpg Solid cab corners. http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._7811710_n.jpg http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._4932327_n.jpg New wood for the bed was also part of the deal. IIRC, its Hard Maple. Will get a black stain and sprayed with a satin clear. http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._6117868_n.jpg And the best part of the deal (drumroll please!) The pair of original 1966 SC license plates that were the original tags on the truck. The original owner had taken them off and stored them under the seat in the original mailing envelope all these years! Our state allows YOM tags to be reregistered so I'm going to clear coat them to preserve the paint and run them. http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._4087579_n.jpg That's all the pics for now. I've been working (inside in the A/C!) on polishing the grill (just getting the milky haze off, not stripping the anodizing) and cleaning/polishing the dash knobs. I've got the gauge assembly apart for cleaning and detailing and should have it back together soon. The next steps will be to get the fuel and brake lines run on the frame, installing the rear C notch and 5" drop springs, and staining/clearing the bed wood so I can install the bed on the frame. Then I'll move on to the cab/interior. |
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Very nice!! DROOL
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I'll be tuning in for this one! Looks great, and I love the color :)
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After the last truck you did, I am completely tuning in to this build.
The body on that truck might be the nicest original sheetmetal I have ever seen. I don't even count the forward sections of the rockers and cab floor as being an issue. My truck is from the California desert, and even mine has some rust there. If you look at the way the truck is designed, there's no way it can't rust there! The water has no place to run out. |
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Thanks guys!! I wasn't too sure about the color til I saw this pic of a '67 Nova SS. Didn't take me long to decide that I liked it and wanted a set of redlines! I'm planning to eventually get a set of 18" steelies made to take the original hubcaps, and a set of 18" redlines from Diamondback Radials for the truck. I'll run the stock wheels for now until I can justify spending ~$2500 on tires and wheels. :eek:
http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._5352772_o.jpg Chevyrestoguy, you're right about the rust issue. These trucks also didn't have very good seam-sealing from the factory so the seams just held moisture inbetween the panels. I'll be using weld-thru primer and plenty of epoxy seam sealer in the areas I can get to while I'm doing the metalwork. One more pic of the truck. I came across the glove box door while digging through one of the boxes of parts and discovered that it still had the option code sheet on it! Decoded the vin and found out that the truck was built in Atlanta. The "custom group" option name is on there twice with two different codes; anybody know of a list of these codes and descriptions for each code? http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._1868177_n.jpg |
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Beautiful project!
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the z61 is the custom cab package which includes aluminum grill,stainless steel windshield trim,custom cab plates,stainless trim on dash knobs,deluxe horn ring,and tutone white door panels.the z62 is the custom comfort package which includes passenger door lock,passenger side sunvisor,driver and passenger armrests,deluxe seat with full depth foam and heavy duty springs,and heavy duty cab insulation including heavy duty undercoating.v37 is the chrome front and rear bumpers which also included matching chrome hubcaps.custom cab trucks were normally stamped on the kick panel i.d. plate with the z61 trim code,but when they also included the custom comfort package the z61 was supeceded with the z62 trim code.your truck is saddle metallic and white tutone.i hope this helps and btw i am so jealous,just kidding that is a super project and i can't wait to see you work some of your magic on it like you did the blue 65.
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Collins, thanks for that super sweet expaination of the option codes! Thats exactly the kind of info I was looking for!
I started on the gauge panel a couple nights ago. Got the frame blasted and in primer, let it dry overnight then wetsanded and painted it last night. I'm not too happy with the silver paint I bought (it didn't turn out anything like it looked on the cap- its basicly slightly duller than that ugly fake chrome paint) so I'm going to repaint it a little bit duller silver to better match the original paint. http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._1743223_n.jpg http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._1728204_n.jpg http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._1494259_n.jpg Here's the insides of the gauge panel. I cleaned all the dust out and took the speedo face off to clean/wax it. The odometer just happened to be at 99,999.0 miles. ;) http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._1024105_n.jpg I made new lenses for the warning lights by taking sheets of translucent plastic from a local hobby shop and cutting them to fit. Had to stack a few together to make them darker and I wetsanded the top layer with 2500 grit to knock the shine off and match the original sheen better. http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._7714946_n.jpg Needles repainted, warning light lenses and the speedo background reinstalled. http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._7487230_n.jpg And all back together. http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._1285678_n.jpg |
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OK....Your last build just made me sick...with jealousy! So since I'm a glutton for punishment I will force myself to keep up with your new build :metal:
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Another nice project truck :thumbs:
I'll be watching this one also......you do some amazing work! That front bumper you have with the holes too far apart.....that is likely a Suburban/Panel rear bumper. |
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wheres the rust? that's not fair! lolol
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Thanks dudes! I never would have thought I'd have as many people following this as there is!
I bought myself a birthday present; a floor shift steering column to use if I put a vortec 4200/5 speed in it. I'll rebuild it and probably shorten it a few inches for a little more room in the cab. How hard is it to find the bearings if it needs them, or can I go to a local bearing shop and get them there? http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._1519428_n.jpg The wires are cut but I've got a good switch and harness to use in it. http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._1389159_n.jpg http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._7959891_n.jpg |
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I believe Classic Parts has the bearings. Other suppliers could have them as well, that's just who I prefer to buy from.
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Shot of the original seat. Going to take the covers off to wash them and sew a new upper panel in back rest.
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im in!!!!!!!! just read through your last build.... b e a u t i f u l ...
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that front bumper may be for a 60-62 if the inner holes are about 32" c-c
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Thanks Yote! I really want to get a professional photographer to do a photoshoot of it. My lame attempts at operating a camera really don't do the truck justice.
Padresag, I'll measure the distance between the mounting holes on that front bumper when I get home tonight and post up the measurement. |
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No problem man! I just went out and measured it and got 44.5 c-c which should make it a 60-62 suburban/panel rear bumper. I guess I'll sell it since I can't use it.
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More goodies came in the mail today. New pair of German Bosch H4 headlight housings, 80/100 watt Hella bulbs, a pair of 50 amp relays and sockets, and a pair of ceramic H4 connectors. This will let me make a 10 gauge headlight relay harness to take the load off the stock headlight wiring and get full voltage to the headlight bulbs. These should light up the road pretty good. We live about 15 miles out of town in the country so there's plenty of critters in the road to avoid at night!
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Small update. Been trying to figure out how to make a set of low-buck 18" smoothies. I put a want ad on craigslist for a set of '08 up Nissan Titan steel wheels and got a call a few weeks later. The plan is to cut the centers out and reverse the rims to change the offset, get a set of moon disc and cut them down to cover just the wheel centers (to get the smoothie look), and make clips to mount the original hubcaps on top of the moon disc. Its a plan atleast, I'll have to get the truck back together and on its wheels with the suspension work done to see if the offset from the reversed rims will fit.
Can't beat $75 buck 18's! http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...8_801380_n.jpg Threw one under the bed for kicks and grins. Tire is way too big and the center will be flipped around but you get the idea... http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._8088214_n.jpg Also bought a C notch kit and adjustable track bar from CPP. The C notches will get substantial bracing before they go on the truck; I'm not too comfortable with hacking away over half of the height of the frame rail without adding some extra bracing. Planning on adding a couple 1/4" steel "ribs" down the length of the cut out and also boxing the inside of the frame rails once the C notches are installed. http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._3685845_n.jpg Not sure what "fragile" means to the guys at UPS... :lol: http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._3328574_n.jpg Next steps are to get the brake and fuel lines installed and then set the bed back on the frame. I'm thinking of using a black stain and satin clear coat on the wood for the bed to semi-replicate the black painted wood on a factory built truck. The stain and satin clear would show the grain of the wood better. |
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I used chasis saver satin black, brushed it on, I still need to find another satin black that is uv inhibited to cover the (por 15) product up. We eventually just used rustoleum satin black over the top of the chasis saver, it has worked well so far. Go read the evaluation of clearcoats on Mar-Ks website, the por 15 black with a uv inhibited top coat black was the only combo of finishes that held up in their tests. JMO Kieth
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I actually thought about painting it satin black like I did with the '65 I restored, but I'd really like to see the actual grain of the wood through the clear and not just the "shape" or "outline" of the grain like paint produces.
Here's what I mean when I say the "shape" or "outline" of the grain. The grain of the wood shows but its obviously got black paint on it. Correct for a "correct" restoration but not what I'm after: http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...toshoot055.jpg I'd like it to look more like this; dark but showing the full grain of the wood (a little darker though, if possible) At first glance it would look somewhat original- being black, but a closer look would show the detail of the grain of the wood. http://diy-fever.com/wordpress/wp-co...staining_2.jpg |
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astronaut- if you do as good of a job on this one as you did on the blue truck then you have nothing to worry about! you do REALLY nice work, i would say the best ive seen on the site with as much detail as you did on that blue truck! i wont let anyone talk you into doing it different, you work speaks for its self!! i look forward to seeing any and all progress you do on this truck! i like the idea of the rims
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Thanks Chad! I won't be restoring this one to the same level of finish as the blue '65 (I'm not even going to paint it) as I want it to be more of a solid beater to drive and use it for what it is; a truck. I will be painting and detailing the firewall and engine compartment though, and I havn't completely ruled out fully restoring the interior. As good of condition the original seat is in though I'll prolly just leave it alone and super clean/detail the parts and run it as-is for awhile. Maybe one day I'll take it back down and restore it to the level of finish and detail of the blue '65, but for now I want one I can use and enjoy daily without worrying about if all the swirl marks are polished out, or if it gets rock chips or parking lot dings.
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nice work on both trucks!!
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Thanks Dino!!
I loaded up the wood for the bed this morning on my trusty "work truck" :lol: and went to Lowe's to pick up some black stain. http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...44933852_n.jpg Got to the shop and sanded a couple places smooth on the back side of the strips and brushed some stain on. Let it sit, wiped it off as per the istructions, let it dry, and brushed some more on. Let it sit, wiped it off again, let it dry... three times. The wood is so dense that it isn't soaking up any of the stain so it isn't getting dark as dark as I want it. The grain of the wood isn't showing up like I thought it would either. Sanded smooth (or smooth enough to see if it was going to work): http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...92968398_n.jpg One coat of stain: http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...12145227_n.jpg Three coats of stain and a coat of Minwax rattle can satin polyurethane. http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...57234816_n.jpg I'm not too happy with the results of the test samples so I'll just paint the wood low gloss black like I did with the '65. On another note, I got all the welds cut loose on one of the wheel centers and now have to go get a big enough hammer to knock the center out (left mine at home.) I'll post pics once I get the center knocked out and flipped around, and take some backspacing measurements. Hopefully from the measurements yall can help me figure out if they'll fit or not. |
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im diggin the work truck man. lol. i may have to turn my wheels inside out. i never even thought of that. good idea!
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Shot of the engine. https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...75212479_n.jpg About the wheels, since you have a set mounted, could you take some measurements- like from the outside edge of the rim to the wheel opening lip front and back so I can get an idea of how much room I have to work with as far as setting the backspacing? Appreciative of any help you could offer! And, we just had the first casualty of the build, the poor thing has suffered major injuries and it's bleeding steel shot. Gunna have to return it and get a real hammer... http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...57894275_n.jpg |
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Got the first wheel center knocked out. Still have to grind the welds down before I can put the center back in but here's some pics that will give you an idea of what these will look like.
http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...21322442_n.jpg Dropped in backwards, not in place as the center still has to go in another 3/4" or so. http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._7230304_n.jpg 1970's (?) cap layed on top to get an idea of where the cap will sit. http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...40932589_n.jpg About 6" of lip before the center is knocked all the way in. Backspacing right now (with the center just laying on top of the drop center) is about three inches. That will shrink to about 2-2.25" once the center is in its final location. I've heard of guys running 8" wide rims with 4" back spacing, so these may stick out too far and rub the fenders? I can narrow the rear end to make them fit the rear but might have to find some outer rims with a better drop center placement (more back spacing) for the front. http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...23239679_n.jpg |
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heres what i got for ya. forgive me of my ghetto rig.
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Thanks so much for those measurements!
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no problem. it was half time anyway.
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it just occured to me that the front might be alittle different and so i went out and measured it. it seems the front is wider by half and inch. makin the measurement up front 6inches and 3 inches
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Do you have disc brakes up front? Pretty sure I've read that they make the front track a little wider. I think the rear track from the factory was narrower anyways. Was expecting that the front of mine wouldn't have as much room for extra width, since its been converted to disc. Thanks again!
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