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88Stanger 08-28-2019 09:49 AM

Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 
I just completed a 1969 C10 build, ground up with 5.3 LS and 4L60E. Now, after very recent Divorce, I was able to pick up a 1966 Factory Short Bed for a great price to build.
Plan is complete ground up build. Full roller 383 Stroker with FiTech Fuel Injection, rebuilt M20 Muncie 4-Speed, 3:42 Posi, Flat Red Wrap with Black highlights.
Updates to come.
Any comments are welcome.

jhrusk 08-28-2019 10:22 AM

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Save yourself some heartache down the road and steer clear of Fitech. I'm speaking from experience. Good luck with the build

88Stanger 08-29-2019 09:06 AM

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Jhrusk,

I would sway away from them honestly, but i bought the full kit, all of it 2 years ago, played with it a bit on the 383 early on in my "69 build, i then changed direction and went to LS, so this build i figure i have the system, so ill give it a shot. But i can honestly respect what your saying and trying to help, but i figure i have it, so ill try it. Easy to go back to straight Carb.

88Stanger 09-19-2019 09:39 AM

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Update:

Took 1970 350ci 4-bolt main into machine shop. He was able to clean it up, but he had to go to .060 overbore, making this a 388ci stroker build. I am not happy, only because i already had .040 overbore stroker pistons, so now i have .060 speed pro pistons and rings showing up tomorrow. Oh well...

Hope to be in the 450hp range. 388ci stroker, roller cam and lifters by Howards, roller rockers by Comp Cams, Edelbrock RPM aluminium heads, RPM Intake, Mallory Ignition, and as i stated earlier maybe try the Fitech i currently have or just go with a standard carb.

88Stanger 09-19-2019 09:55 AM

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update 2:

I have read about a few on here going with air bags. There are a few company's out there that have kits designed for C10 that i found. There are some extremely expensive kits, some good priced, and some supper cheap ones. So i found 3 that i have heard about and sent out email requests. one that i will name here is Grunions. Anyways, i got no response from two (one being Grunions) and one i sent the email to the wrong address. So i called Grunions, spoke to young man there who after asking a few questions to him, i noticed he was way to important to be talking with me and then i asked about ordering a kit and he told me that they are too busy now to take my order. I was so blown away by this response! he says let me get your number and ill call you in the next couple days and get your order. After 2 weeks, i was beyond pissed, I called EZ Air Ride. I heard about a guy there named Steve who is the owner and will talk with about your project and steer you to what he thinks is the best and why. So i talked with Steve for 30 min. about my project, what i wanted listened to him and his suggestions. he never tried to steer me to the high end kit! He was just a great guy to talk with, so needless to say, i order my kit from him. He is in Cali and it was on front porch (Washington State) in 4 days. Each part was separately wrapped, and well packed.
I have yet to install it, but DAMN he has great customer service. Now recently i learned that there may be a sponsor on here that does bag kits. I am sorry i did not find them before i ordered my kit as i like to try to support anyone who is a sponsor of the site.
With all that said, i hope to be test fitting all the stuff onto the frame in the next few weeks.
Pics coming......

88Stanger 09-19-2019 10:00 AM

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Update 3:

Sorry for all the messages so quick, been helping my mother through the death of her husband.

The cab completely stripped and is off the frame on the roller box. The frame is without a motor and this weekend will be without a tranny.
going to remove existing suspension, clean it up and start test fitting the air bag kit, shock relocations, and such. Need to cut in the C-Notch, fab up the new shock mounts, weld on the bag plates and such. After that, i have 5 quarts of Por 15 that will be applied after i sand blast the frame.

Pics coming....

88Stanger 09-19-2019 03:35 PM

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pics at the start

88Stanger 02-17-2020 10:23 AM

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It has been sometime since i updated this, so here is a current update where i am.
The main idea is to stay with the full bagged system, 383 stroker and such.
Here are some recent pics of the project.

88Stanger 02-17-2020 10:25 AM

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88Stanger 02-17-2020 10:26 AM

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88Stanger 02-17-2020 10:41 AM

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88Stanger 02-17-2020 10:48 AM

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Muncie tranny rebuild

88Stanger 02-17-2020 10:51 AM

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muncie

88Stanger 02-17-2020 12:23 PM

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88Stanger 02-17-2020 12:28 PM

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88Stanger 02-17-2020 12:29 PM

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my first powder coating projects

88Stanger 02-17-2020 12:31 PM

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aluminium heads that have less than 100 miles on them.

88Stanger 02-17-2020 12:33 PM

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motor coming together

88Stanger 02-17-2020 12:35 PM

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engine

88Stanger 02-17-2020 12:39 PM

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tranny with new 11" bell housing

88Stanger 02-17-2020 12:42 PM

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power steering pump with addition of extra return line for hydroboost brakes

88Stanger 02-17-2020 12:44 PM

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88Stanger 02-17-2020 12:45 PM

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March Pulley serpentine belt conversion

88Stanger 02-17-2020 12:53 PM

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88Stanger 02-17-2020 12:59 PM

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88Stanger 02-17-2020 01:01 PM

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Captainfab 02-17-2020 10:53 PM

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Your engine looks great. That ought to be a blast with the Muncie.

ElReeso 02-18-2020 08:27 AM

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Is that 4Speed rebuild for more power or what power Levels are you expecting?
Trying to figure out what to do with mine..

Robert Haas 02-18-2020 12:12 PM

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Why modify that PS pump? The newer remote reservoir pumps are smaller and easier to plumb.

88Stanger 02-23-2020 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Captainfab (Post 8680279)
Your engine looks great. That ought to be a blast with the Muncie.

Thank you sir! I am about to install your power steering box mount - before i take it out to have the frame powdercoated.

88Stanger 02-23-2020 11:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ElReeso (Post 8680422)
Is that 4Speed rebuild for more power or what power Levels are you expecting?
Trying to figure out what to do with mine..

i bought the 4-speed used from a guy, then i tore it all down, bought a how to rebuild book, then i bought a heavy duty rebuild kit from the same guy that wrote the book. I will not be running any NOS or turbos or superchargers, so i am hoping for anything over 400hp.
I have an LS and auto 1969 C10, so now i need an old school motor and 4-Speed tranny.

88Stanger 02-23-2020 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Haas (Post 8680529)
Why modify that PS pump? The newer remote reservoir pumps are smaller and easier to plumb.

Thanks for the question and suggestion. I bought a serpentine conversion kit from march pulleys and they only offer the kit i got with the 2 old school style pumps, press on or key way. the mount for the power steering is reliant on the pump style.
Also, i have never worked with the newer style pumps.

Big Daddy Bear 02-25-2020 02:33 AM

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Howdy,

Tried to send you a PM, but apparently your inbox is full.

I was curious what was included in your rebuild kit and where it came from if you don't mind sharing? I am considering picking up a 4 speed, but it has some damaged/chipped teeth on a couple of the gears.

Because of that it is a stupid cheap price from what I have seen, but not sure about getting some of the internal hard parts.

Thanks much!

88Stanger 02-26-2020 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Daddy Bear (Post 8684106)
Howdy,

Tried to send you a PM, but apparently your inbox is full.

I was curious what was included in your rebuild kit and where it came from if you don't mind sharing? I am considering picking up a 4 speed, but it has some damaged/chipped teeth on a couple of the gears.

Because of that it is a stupid cheap price from what I have seen, but not sure about getting some of the internal hard parts.

Thanks much!

Sorry, message board is fixed, now there is room.

Sure i will share. I bought the book: Workbench how to rebuild a Muncie 4-Speed by Paul Cangialosi. I also went to youtube and looked up Paul Cangialosi and he has a bunch of vidoes on howto. He is is basically the Godfather of the Muncie. He supports/owns a company that sells the parts - 5speeds.com. Everything including buying complete Muncie from them.
If you have any questions, please let me know.

88Stanger 03-28-2020 08:41 PM

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updates: This is the frame brace kit from Summit Racing, i finally got it in

88Stanger 03-28-2020 08:52 PM

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88Stanger 03-28-2020 08:53 PM

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tranny mount for LS or old school

88Stanger 03-28-2020 08:54 PM

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more updates - Gotta love plasma cutter for 225.00 on amazon

88Stanger 03-28-2020 08:56 PM

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88Stanger 03-28-2020 08:57 PM

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