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jaros44sr 09-12-2006 07:09 AM

PO has me PO'd
 
Started to strip paint off of PS of truck, and this is what I found. This side was up against the shop wall so I haven't paid to much attention to it. I thought it was in pretty good shape since it had a new rocker panel hung on it. Why would you waste your time covering up all that rust? Oh well, deja vu. Here I go again on the PS

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Pictures are for ref. only, unsafe work practices, DO NOT attempt at Home or Workshop
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EDIT: for index

Pages 1-8 rust repair

Pages15-23 changing 72 front clip to a 67-68 chevy
also hanging a floor pan on a chevy pick up

special-K 09-12-2006 07:48 AM

Re: PO has me PO'd
 
Always an ugly site.Not rare to see,though.

tpi72blazer 09-12-2006 08:13 AM

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Wow, it's amazing to see the amount of rust that some of you guys start with. Luckily vehicles around Colorado don't tend to rust as bad. Good luck.

Yukon Jack 09-12-2006 10:38 AM

Re: PO has me PO'd
 
Dang, good luck getting that all back together.

raggedjim 09-12-2006 11:00 AM

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I see "show trucks" that look great from the top side but have rusted out cab supports, floors, etc.

It takes effort to make it right, most people won't put that much effort into it.

Don't give up, do it as right as you can (It's hard to know when to stop...), and you'll have a better blazer than most.

Good luck, Rg

vtblazer 09-12-2006 11:10 AM

Re: PO has me PO'd
 
Always the biggest battles, rust and P/O's.

Good luck keep us posted on your progress.

Good pics BTW.

LUV2XCLR8 09-12-2006 03:21 PM

Re: PO has me PO'd
 
Hey James, visors are on the way ;)

FeDeX # 045740433140784

jaros44sr 09-12-2006 05:11 PM

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Thanks guys, its just so dang fustrating cause I spent amonth on the drivers side. Maybe this time I am truly done shoveling crap off the workshop floor, hehe I can see the light at the end of the tunnel, and there is no rust around it.
Thanks Kurt, I just got it from my wife for my birthday, still learning how to use it. Alot different than my 35mm I had 30 years ago. While I have your ear, how did you make out with cutting your top in half? Curious? I might be headed down that road!
Thanks Luv, enjoyed seeing pics of the GQ, that is really sweet. What size tires and lift? I like the way it sits!

Time to start ordering pcs. from Goodmark, I should buy stock in 4 1/2" cutoff wheels, can't imagine how many I went thru so far:blah: :blah: :blah:

jhow66 09-13-2006 12:54 AM

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Thumb through this to see what it takes:

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jason_burkhart/my_photos

jaros44sr 09-13-2006 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jhow66 (Post 1803940)
Thumb through this to see what it takes:

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jason_burkhart/my_photos

Thanks for the pics. nice work, someday mine will look that good if I live long enough! Jim

jhow66 09-13-2006 11:43 AM

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It took us 1 1/2 years and we still don't have the top finish. (it is my son's-orangeuavol-)

FRENCHBLUE72 09-13-2006 06:32 PM

Re: PO has me PO'd
 
wow those boxes are long gone.

jaros44sr 09-13-2006 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by FRENCHBLUE72 (Post 1804410)
wow those boxes are long gone.

You sound like there should be some kinda boxes there, he he. Neither side had much to speak of, mostly just held up a bunch of mud and large flakes of rusty metal. I plan to rebuild with sliders to put back the rigidity i lost with the rocker boxes gone. I can't decide if the slider should have a urethane mount or not, since it is tied between the frame and the body??

I wasn't going to do anything, but a buddy was wheelin' with the same truck like mine and his doors became stuck shut on some of the steeper inclines. Got me thinkin...

lawricker 09-14-2006 06:33 AM

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I know how you feel, more rust than you were prepared to deal with....kinda gives you t hat sick feeling...but I just finished all the body work on mine Can't think of much I didn't replace...lol...pillar bottoms, door bottoms inside and outside, floor pans, kick panels, rockers, inside rocker panels, front fenders, and several floor patches in the bed.....blocking it off now, waiting on the money to paint.
JUst take your time, measure twice, tack it measure again.....good luck...if you need advice these guys are great....

Chevyman63 09-14-2006 06:52 AM

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Boy does that look familiar!

Good luck...you can do it!!

jaros44sr 09-14-2006 05:19 PM

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Sick feeling haha. It's a never ending battle, I look at the trucks where they spend lots of money on the purchase, and wonder if maybe I should have gone that route. Nah, I can say I built it when it's done. $700.00 was cheap, just don't let my wife add up the receipts

jaros44sr 09-14-2006 05:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LUV2XCLR8 (Post 1803447)
Hey James, visors are on the way ;)

FeDeX # 045740433140784

Visors arrived today, thanks for the deal. It's addictive I can't stay of the parts board.

florida4x4 09-15-2006 07:36 AM

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Yeah, man! I've been there. Good luck with it

jaros44sr 10-11-2006 06:03 PM

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OK, here's my present progress. This side was alot easier as the PO hadn't added many patch plates. Every thing was cut out with a 4 1/2" angle grinder, channel locks and a pry bar. Once you pry up on the spot welds you can see the little detents and grind the metal till it gets blue, then you are almost thru the metal and won't damage the under layer your trying to save. Taking it apart I actually saw some shiny metal, what luck. Plan to spend a good couple of hours around the body mount to cab brace, they are really spot welded in well.http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k2...replace002.jpg

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Alot of my new sheet metal came in so I'll be cutting, fitting and cutting, fitting...

LUV2XCLR8 10-11-2006 06:05 PM

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WOWSERS, Hope your keeping this pic's for reassembly later :lol:

jaros44sr 10-11-2006 06:13 PM

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I could only post up 10 pics, so maybe I can do it this way and re-reply. Hope the picture cops don't catch on! I've put a white dot where the spot welds are so in case yours are all rusty you can still locate them, I had 5 spot welds fail in the area of the spreader plate and that is where the most rust was!!

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Any questions?? Jim

LUV2XCLR8 10-11-2006 06:16 PM

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WOW, I wish I had the nerve to try that, I would have kept several
vehicles in the past if that wasn't so scary to me, nice work, cya ;)

jaros44sr 10-11-2006 06:20 PM

Re: PO has me PO'd
 
Luv, I see this truck in my sleep after 4 years!!! What's that saying: some assembly required. This is the last piece of rust and crap pile on the work shop floor, I hope.

Rusty Parts has been my mentor thru this hole process, I thought if he could do it, well so can I.heh heh

jaros44sr 10-11-2006 06:23 PM

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I've done worse, used to cut english sports cars in half to put floorboards in those. Rusty pcs. of sh!t...

Chevyman63 10-12-2006 06:04 AM

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Wow...great pics!
Please keep them coming during the assembly process, they are very helpful. I will be working in the same area soon.
Thanks.

vtblazer 10-12-2006 06:15 AM

Re: PO has me PO'd
 
Nice detailed pics, brings back alot of rusty metal memories I thought I had finally put behind me. :o :lol:

J/K, great work, your on the 'fix it' side of things now.

One question I can't see from the pics, is the hard top on?
If not it really should be to keep those lower door pillars where they need to be.

I like this pic with the coffee cup...speakes volumes. :metal:
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jaros44sr 10-12-2006 07:47 AM

Re: PO has me PO'd
 
I have the cowl hangin' from a pipe that goes across my workshop, plus I have taken a diagonal measurement across the door opening. When I mount the door back on that becomes the final check, worked for the drivers side. I think that as long as you don't fool with brace/channel that connects the cowl with bed evrything should stay in place. Only do one side at a time, I think you said this? I usually give the winch 1 or 2 clicks up after I cut to prestress the metal. I guess there a lot of ways to do this.
Your green truck has always bin one of my fav. ones, although mine will never be that nice, I shot for that excellance
Sorry to bring back rusty memories, I think the cure is to buy a Arizona truck. Hope they realize how lucky they are!!

florida4x4 10-12-2006 09:38 AM

Re: PO has me PO'd
 
wow thanks for the pics. that looks just like my junk in 2000. be really careful about putting in the rocker panel. I set mine in a little high on the drivers side and had contact with the door. To fix it, I took a 5lb sledge and a piece of oak to "settle" the rocker. I didn't cause any visible damage but I'd rather not have had to do it that way. :banghead:

RustyParts 10-12-2006 07:56 PM

Re: PO has me PO'd
 
Sometimes newmetaltherapy is the only way to put that ole rust into remission. But it feels sooooo good to get rid of it.

Nice work.

vtblazer 10-13-2006 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jaros44 (Post 1825696)
I have the cowl hangin' from a pipe that goes across my workshop, plus I have taken a diagonal measurement across the door opening. When I mount the door back on that becomes the final check, worked for the drivers side. I think that as long as you don't fool with brace/channel that connects the cowl with bed evrything should stay in place. Only do one side at a time, I think you said this? I usually give the winch 1 or 2 clicks up after I cut to prestress the metal. I guess there a lot of ways to do this.
Your green truck has always bin one of my fav. ones, although mine will never be that nice, I shot for that excellance
Sorry to bring back rusty memories, I think the cure is to buy a Arizona truck. Hope they realize how lucky they are!!

Sounds like you have it covered.
Knowing is half the battle. ;)

AZ. rides definetly have an advantage but their not perfect by any means either.
I flew out to AZ. and drove my green one home because I was thinking along those same lines, cool adventure but not even close to rust free.
Not meaning to highjack and nowhere near your metal replacement but here's what my AZ. blazer was like. (yes, there was more on the other side too)

What color are you going to paint it when the body work is done?

florida4x4 10-13-2006 08:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaros44 (Post 1825696)
... I think the cure is to buy a Arizona truck. Hope they realize how lucky they are!!

Just make sure it lived it's whole life out there and when you get it home disassemble, clean and rust proof it!!

jaros44sr 10-13-2006 03:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vtblazer (Post 1826998)
Sounds like you have it covered.
Knowing is half the battle. ;)

AZ. rides definetly have an advantage but their not perfect by any means either.
I flew out to AZ. and drove my green one home because I was thinking along those same lines, cool adventure but not even close to rust free.
Not meaning to highjack and nowhere near your metal replacement but here's what my AZ. blazer was like. (yes, there was more on the other side too)

What color are you going to paint it when the body work is done?

After looking at the green one, I thought it came that way and you just picked a clean rust free Blazer, had no idea you did all that work. Looks like an original one, nice work, I think we all strive for that level of craftmanship. I don't know what you do for a living, but sure could get into the restoration business.

Didn't know you were hijacking, lot to learn on this here computor.

I would really like to paint it two-tone, white panel w/dark green metallic to match my dash. I was going to use the early trim to cover up my eyebrows as they are still a little tatty. Maybe gun metal panel to be a little different...

jaros44sr 10-13-2006 03:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RustyParts (Post 1826664)
Sometimes newmetaltherapy is the only way to put that ole rust into remission. But it feels sooooo good to get rid of it.

Nice work.

Thanks Rusty, you know, right now I have air where the rust used to be and it still looks a hole he!! of alot better.heh heh

After working on these things for 35 years, I should have a BS degree if not a Doct. in rustymetalolgie.

RustyParts 10-13-2006 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jaros44 (Post 1827297)
Thanks Rusty, you know, right now I have air where the rust used to be and it still looks a hole he!! of alot better.heh heh

After working on these things for 35 years, I should have a BS degree if not a Doct. in rustymetalolgie.

Amen Brother, Amen.

jaros44sr 10-13-2006 08:07 PM

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Rusty, it must be beerthirty in Ol' Kentucky by now!!

jaros44sr 10-15-2006 10:43 AM

Re: PO has me PO'd
 
OK, here's the last step of disassembly. Take your time on the seams as you don't want to destroy the sheet metal underneath. The method that works best for me is as follows
Pry up what ever you can get and pull back with pliers, it helps if you can wedge a small screwdriver on the other side of the spotweld, now when you use your cutoff wheel it will grind both sides of the spot weld, top and bottom, try pulling some more and you should see movement, if not grind some more. After it breaks lose, you'll end up with a 1" pc., cut that off and start on the next one. It's sorta like opening an old ham can. Channel locks work best as they have a rolled head that is helpful in the cam action that is required. BTW you should be cutting, grinding in the same direction that your seam is running! Once you see blue metal, you are almost thru the first layer of metal. Give yourself plenty of light, so you can see exactly what you are cuttin'
Here's some pics.

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BTW, your seams should be cut flat, like a ribbon, as any angle on it will only give it more strenght and you don't want that!!

As you can see in one of the closups, I had planned to just weld up the hole that looks like a sailboat, but after separating the seam the rust was hidden and it doesn't make sense not to fix it at this stage, as it will only bite you in arse a few years down the road.

OK new parts are here from Goodmark, time to cut and fit, cut and fit .....

jaros44sr 10-15-2006 11:22 AM

Re: PO has me PO'd
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vtblazer (Post 1826998)
Sounds like you have it covered.
Knowing is half the battle. ;)

AZ. rides definetly have an advantage but their not perfect by any means either.
I flew out to AZ. and drove my green one home because I was thinking along those same lines, cool adventure but not even close to rust free.
Not meaning to highjack and nowhere near your metal replacement but here's what my AZ. blazer was like. (yes, there was more on the other side too)

What color are you going to paint it when the body work is done?

Dude, that rocker floorboard is freakin' ugly, then I see a post elsewhere with a prestine orange painted floor and a blue cowl. What gives?

vtblazer 10-16-2006 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jaros44 (Post 1828873)
Dude, that rocker floorboard is freakin' ugly, then I see a post elsewhere with a prestine orange painted floor and a blue cowl. What gives?

That would be a different project blazer currently under construction. :hm:

That pristine floor is original paint and the blue cowl is from a truck that I grafted a blazer windshield frame onto, it's about five different parts trucks being put together to make a blazer for my daughter. :cool:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=156022

jaros44sr 10-18-2006 11:44 AM

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Floorboard is in loosely, have to trim everything up to get it to fit right, I'll take pics. when I get back from salmon fishing in N.Y., truck still not ready for yet another fishing trip. Oh well, maybe for the spring trip!

jaros44sr 10-23-2006 05:18 PM

Re: PO has me PO'd
 
Well here is my current progress, the kickpanel is a PITA, so I'll get into that later. BTW, pics. are loaded backwards

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Any questions?


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