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1965c50 10-20-2017 09:31 AM

1965 c50 drag car hauler help
 
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Good morning community, just joined the heavy truck family with a 1965 c50 car hauler. I’m looking for someone who has lowered one and can point me in the right direction for the front suspension. Will be doing a triangulated 4-link in the back. Not sure what the best approach is for the front.
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C10 - C90 Bill 10-20-2017 09:33 AM

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Nice looking truck.

What you actually have there is an L-Model.

1965c50 10-20-2017 09:41 AM

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Tell me more. I was told it was a c50. Which it probably is and L model is something else. But that’s how little I know about these.

C10 - C90 Bill 10-20-2017 09:56 AM

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Compare your truck to other C-Models out there and you will notice the difference in the cabs. The most notice-able difference is between the top of the fenders and the hood. There are many pictures here on the forum, but another quick way is to google '65 C-50 Chevy and hit "images".

1965c50 10-20-2017 10:23 AM

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I must have taken a heavy dose of stupid this morning. I just don’t see it. So was is the L. As compared to the c50?

C10 - C90 Bill 10-20-2017 11:09 AM

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The L is short for LCF, which stands for Low Cab Forward.

It also has a shorter Front Clip.

The Hood on an L is about 15 Inches shorter than a C.

1965c50 10-20-2017 12:55 PM

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Awesome info. Thanks

special-K 10-30-2017 08:20 AM

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L (Low Cab Forward) model:
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C (Conventional) model:
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I guess you bought it from someone who didn't know what they had. They should have called them High cab forward because the cab is raised to move it forward. We always called them snub noses. I guess they mean low compared to a cabover. I'd leave it fully functional as what it is. What would you do, raise the bed so you could lower the chassis?

C10 - C90 Bill 10-30-2017 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by special-K (Post 8071429)
They should have called them High cab forward because the cab is raised to move it forward.

In my younger years before I learned more about them, I used to call them "High Cabs", lol.

Also thought it was pretty strange to learn that they are actually called "Low Cab" Forwards.

1965c50 10-30-2017 10:45 AM

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This one is getting gen running boards on the ground and 24.5 Alcoa’s

KQQL IT 10-30-2017 11:03 AM

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Little older truck.
But used a squarebody front crossmember.

Free Candy Inside 10-30-2017 07:06 PM

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That truck has popped up for sale a few times over in Indiana. Every time it was bad timing otherwise I had planned on picking it up! Killer truck. I have a 66 I’m going to drop/ most likely bag this winter if everything goes right. I’m going to use a front end off of a 92 G30 short bus. It looks to be roughly 1/2” narrower than my C50. My plan is to clip the side rails and center the front end then weld it back up and brace it. That’ll get me independent suspension and disc brakes as well as powder steering.

1965c50 11-09-2017 05:20 PM

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Great minds think alike i picked up a 1984 G30 motorhome. We’re doing the same swap.

Free Candy Inside 11-13-2017 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 1965c50 (Post 8078895)
Great minds think alike i picked up a 1984 G30 motorhome. We’re doing the same swap.

How soon are you going to get started? I’m not planning on starting mine till after the first of the year. If you get started before that please post lots of pics

1965c50 11-13-2017 02:52 PM

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We started tearing it apart this morning. With a 90 day turnaround.

Clyde65 12-01-2017 10:47 PM

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Update?

1965c50 12-02-2017 05:31 PM

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Frame mods are done for the front. Body is off. BBC goes in for test fit Tuesday. Then body back on Wednesday for turbo fitment, booster and ac. Haven’t touched the back yet. But did upgrade the trans to a nv4500. Picked it up off CL with the BH and all the components, for $500. Couldn’t say no. Also upgraded the rear diff to a Dana 70. I also made a wheel and tire change. But you’ll have to wait til the end for that surprise.

1965c50 12-02-2017 05:34 PM

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We ended up having to notch the frame for the front end. The perches with 1/4” toed in on each side, on the front. How are you coming along.

1965c50 12-04-2017 06:32 PM

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Some pics of the front end in mock-up. I’ll have to get better at taking pics.

Free Candy Inside 12-27-2017 11:51 PM

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Nice work! I haven't touched mine yet. I did however snag some 22" semi Alcoa's that have been machined down and some adaptors. I am hoping to get started in February on mine!

Free Candy Inside 12-28-2017 11:15 AM

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And I'd love to see some more detailed pics of the front crossmember install since I'm getting ready to tackle the same thing here in the next couple of weeks hopefully. Im curious with the newer style front end basically bolting to the frame if that will lower the truck any just by doing the swap. My plan was to do the swap and see where it gets me then decide on bagging it from there. Part of me just wants to give it a nice static drop and not have to mess with bags, part of me wants to lay it out. Either way I think I'm going to section at least 2" out of the steps. Personal pet peeve is when the cabs sit lower than the front bumpers. Can't be having that.

Free Candy Inside 01-15-2018 04:27 PM

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Man this build it killing me!!!! I want to see some updates! Lol. I’m hoping to get started on mine sometime in February. I can’t wait to get started on it. I picked up some semi wheels and a Cummins for mine.

1965c50 01-20-2018 07:27 PM

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Man I wish I had more for you. The front end air suspension ended up being a stinker. Didn’t look good. Ended up making all new airbag mounts. Finished just today. Back in again Monday morn for final fitment. The motor and body back on this week for turbo mock-up and to measure the front fenders for a little custom work.

1965c50 01-20-2018 09:44 PM

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Man I wish I had more for you. The front end air suspension ended up being a stinker. Didn’t look good. Ended up making all new airbag mounts. Finished just today. Back in again Monday morn for final fitment. The motor and body back on this week for turbo mock-up and to measure the front fenders for a little custom work.

Free Candy Inside 01-21-2018 10:02 AM

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If you don’t mind taking some pics of the front end when it’s bolted back to the frame I would appreciate it. If not no big deal since I’ll be tackling that hopefully soon anyways.

1965c50 01-21-2018 10:26 AM

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No problem. Shoot me a message with your number. I can text updates faster than this board. I rarely come in here. Not enough traffic b

Free Candy Inside 01-21-2018 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 1965c50 (Post 8166322)
No problem. Shoot me a message with your number. I can text updates faster than this board. I rarely come in here. Not enough traffic b

PM sent

PaulJWood 01-25-2018 05:54 AM

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The L is short for LCF Low Cab Forward.

The Hood on an L is shorter than a C.
To make it easier to notice, you can see the truck: The head of C truck tends to be much smaller than the L

stsalvage 01-26-2018 06:16 AM

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I had a 1965 3 ton bob tail.my plan until is was destroyed by kids and lite it on fire.It was a blue 20 footer Bob tail it had a 283 with a 4 speed with a spite rear end.I was going to buy a internal rolling chassis from a 1990.Was going to use the I beam power steering and disk brakes and the better 2 speed rear end and better drive shafts plus use the alum Gas takes and the better 16 foot wood bed that was almost brand new guy wanted 3300.00 for the rolling chassis.All i was going to do was add Power brakes from a 1972 chevy truck bracket and booster.But now that hydro boost works so well.that be my next option mine was not a snub nose mine had the long hood

1965c50 02-19-2018 06:01 PM

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Some custom motor mounts and we finally have a good mock-up.

1965c50 02-20-2018 02:54 PM

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The donor NV4500 is mated up. Have to move the crossmember back and a few mods for driveline angle and that check is written. Also removed the rear cab mounts to be re-vulcanized. I found a place that has a jig for a c30, should be the same. I’m gonna send it out and find out if it will work.

jarrodblake 02-28-2018 03:04 AM

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Awesome build! What airbags are you running? Dimensions, LBS, make model? I'm getting ready to order a set. I was thinking about 5000lbs bags each in the front for my C30 car hauler under heavy loads my truck bottoms out. Also can we get some more pics of how there mounted. I will definitely be following this build! So far you're doing the same mods as I will be doing. What are you doing for your clutch and flywheel? I have a nv4500 out of a 95 chevy 3500 it came with everything as well, but the new flywheels are balanced different then the one on my 70s engine. Dis the newer clutch bolt on the older flywheel?

1965c50 02-28-2018 11:13 AM

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We ran 6k bags up front and 12k in the rear. We purchased our system through x2 industries. The brackets for the bags were all hand made. The brackets s that came with the kit looked like ****. Here’s the only pics I have on me of the bags

1965c50 02-28-2018 11:15 AM

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Body is back on for final mock-up.

txagincali 02-28-2018 11:19 AM

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Please tell me the super singles are staying and not used for mock up too!

1965c50 02-28-2018 11:21 AM

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Since no one makes the parts we needed. Everything we’ve made has been computer modeled so it can be made again. So if you want the same parts as we used. We can make em and ship em. May save you some time on the math. We can remake: the frame recesses for the kframe crossmember, 3 pint inner frame motor mounts for SBC/BBC, rear cab mounts (all steel) airbag mounts for kframe crossmember.

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Originally Posted by jarrodblake (Post 8199530)
Awesome build! What airbags are you running? Dimensions, LBS, make model? I'm getting ready to order a set. I was thinking about 5000lbs bags each in the front for my C30 car hauler under heavy loads my truck bottoms out. Also can we get some more pics of how there mounted. I will definitely be following this build! So far you're doing the same mods as I will be doing. What are you doing for your clutch and flywheel? I have a nv4500 out of a 95 chevy 3500 it came with everything as well, but the new flywheels are balanced different then the one on my 70s engine. Dis the newer clutch bolt on the older flywheel?


Gypsyman 02-28-2018 11:49 AM

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Nice to see heavy hauler build. I have a few here waiting for the same treatment. Has anyone ever found an actual max load rating for the Chevy/GMC A-arm steup that we all seem to go with?

txagincali 02-28-2018 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 1965c50 (Post 8199709)
Since no one makes the parts we needed. Everything we’ve made has been computer modeled so it can be made again. So if you want the same parts as we used. We can make em and ship em. May save you some time on the math. We can remake: the frame recesses for the kframe crossmember, 3 pint inner frame motor mounts for SBC/BBC, rear cab mounts (all steel) airbag mounts for kframe crossmember.

Ooo I might be down for a set of BBC motor mounts! I haven't started pulling anything yet from my 69 C50 or my Topkick Donor but when I get to that point and find I am needing some, I will definitely look you up. ~3 months time if all goes well.

1965c50 02-28-2018 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by txagincali (Post 8199706)
Please tell me the super singles are staying and not used for mock up too!

Super singles are here to stay.

1965c50 02-28-2018 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by txagincali (Post 8199757)
Ooo I might be down for a set of BBC motor mounts! I haven't started pulling anything yet from my 69 C50 or my Topkick Donor but when I get to that point and find I am needing some, I will definitely look you up. ~3 months time if all goes well.

Start a build post so I can follow


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