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Alan's Classic 06-01-2009 08:51 PM

198Plus build
 
This a pretty wild story. I listed some parts on CL and 198Plus called me about my SWB step bed I had for sale. I told him about this forum and sent him a link to my build. He signed up and contacted me right away and said he was interested in me doing his truck.

Well, we met today. He is one cool dude. He bought my bed and a fender and left his other fender and doors with me. He told me of his experiences with bodyshops and it wasn't good. I'm sure he will chime in with more info.

It was his Dad's truck I believe and wants to make a nice original driver out of it for weekend cruises.

So for now I've got the bed, doors and fenders to work on and he will be bringing the cab in a couple of weeks. Here are some shots of what other shops have done to him. One shop swipped his good doors and gave these to him and not telling him. He said they were painted and all nice and shinny until further inspection. He had them blasted and this is what he found.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...s/DSC00012.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...s/DSC00014.jpg

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http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...s/DSC00017.jpg

This was impressive

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...s/DSC00025.jpg

Check out the belly under the level

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...s/DSC00027.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...s/DSC00040.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...s/DSC00041.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...s/DSC00043.jpg

Bent inner panel

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...s/DSC00047.jpg

198plus 06-01-2009 09:12 PM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Alan, I just wanted to say thanks and it was nice meeting you.
I love the work you have done to your truck....Can't wait for mine to get finished it's been five years........Cough, Cough......Hope your working on mine LATE tonight......:lol:

Oh and by the way.......I can tell folks where not to take their truck too :banghead:

1964C10 06-01-2009 09:38 PM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Even from a distance, look at the body lines on Alan's truck in the background, nice and tight and the reflection of the light is one straight line. Very nice job Alan!

Captainfab 06-02-2009 12:22 AM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
I've seen this type of work all to often.It's really frustrating the kind of crap work that so many businesses put out. Then to top it all off they take their sweet time and charge for a quality job.

You don't have anything to worry about now that Alan is on the project. He does top quality work. ;)

Alan's Classic 06-02-2009 12:25 AM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1964C10 (Post 3338349)
Even from a distance, look at the body lines on Alan's truck in the background, nice and tight and the reflection of the light is one straight line. Very nice job Alan!

Thanks Man! There is alot of time in those doors. While I was doing it I was wondering why the heck was I being so anal. Now I know.....The finished product. ;)

Alan's Classic 06-02-2009 12:36 AM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Captainfab (Post 3338749)
I've seen this type of work all to often.It's really frustrating the kind of crap work that so many businesses put out. Then to top it all off they take their sweet time and charge for a quality job.

You don't have anything to worry about now that Alan is on the project. He does top quality work. ;)

Thanks Captain for the vote of confidence. I'm thinking labor wise it would be cheaper to get repop doors and fit them. There will be less labor involved and would last longer IMHO.

aggie91 06-02-2009 09:14 AM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Alan

Glad to see that you got some work, and it is not another miata...while looking at the pics, I was thinking the same thing about the doors, repops might be a better long term solution even though you can get these back in shape with your skills.

198plus

Welcome to the board, your truck is in good hands. When Alan gets yours done, that will be 2 trucks he has made progress on in a short time, really makes me feel like a slacker...

ruffrida2005 06-02-2009 10:27 AM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Good to see you got some work Alan! I cant wait to see this build up!

Strodder 06-02-2009 08:30 PM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Good going Allan. You'll have some extra $$$ for your build. Now all you need is time to do both. :lol:

Alan's Classic 06-02-2009 09:46 PM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aggie91 (Post 3339125)
Alan

Glad to see that you got some work, and it is not another miata...while looking at the pics, I was thinking the same thing about the doors, repops might be a better long term solution even though you can get these back in shape with your skills.

198plus

Welcome to the board, your truck is in good hands. When Alan gets yours done, that will be 2 trucks he has made progress on in a short time, really makes me feel like a slacker...

:haha: about the Miata. Super Chevy is in town this weekend 198 says he's going there to see what he can find. I hope I get to go to the show also.

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Originally Posted by ruffrida2005 (Post 3339276)
Good to see you got some work Alan! I cant wait to see this build up!

I'm happy also. I want to do him a good job while working with his budget. We had a good conversation today about the doors. I think some better used doors or even new would be the lesser of the 2 evils.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strodder (Post 3340181)
Good going Allan. You'll have some extra $$$ for your build. Now all you need is time to do both. :lol:

Thanks Dennis, I guess I can work on mine when I get some downtime waiting on parts etc.

Tonight it took 2.5 hours to get the bed apart without destroying it. I had too torch 90% of the bolts and didn't mess anything up.:lol:

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...d/DSC00054.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...d/DSC00055.jpg

For those that might need to know this is where the rear sill welds to the inner panels. Fleets are the same. My fleet had a tack on the top of the sill also. This one didn't. Remember the bed is upside down in the pic.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...d/DSC00056.jpg

Ready for the blaster

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...d/DSC00062.jpg

2.5

protrash64 06-02-2009 09:48 PM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
I have to vote against the re-pop doors. Being that Im not paying, I want to see you really work those things over to get 'em straight:lol:....I'm sure we'd all learn a thing or two.

ChiefRocka 06-02-2009 09:53 PM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
MAN...what a crap job that is....I'm sure he will be pleased with the outcome of Alan's work !!!!

ol Curt 06-02-2009 10:24 PM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Hmmmm Ball Ground, GA.....Newburgh , IN
Couldn't be that far. Heck, he might have a whole slough of us lined up along his street with trucks needing work!:lol:

joe231 06-02-2009 11:13 PM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
:welcoem: 198plus!!
your baby is in good hands!!

and :cong: Alan...now get back to work :sumo: ;)

joe231 06-02-2009 11:14 PM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
dangit!!!

Strodder 06-02-2009 11:24 PM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joe231 (Post 3340582)
:welcoem: 198plus!!
your baby is in good hands!!

and :cong: Alan...now get back to work :sumo: ;)

X 2 :agree::welcome2:

Alan's Classic 06-02-2009 11:41 PM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by protrash64 (Post 3340366)
I have to vote against the re-pop doors. Being that Im not paying, I want to see you really work those things over to get 'em straight:lol:....I'm sure we'd all learn a thing or two.

I would like to try to straighten these things out, but not at his expense. It would be a good test. :lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefRocka (Post 3340377)
When what a crap job that is....I'm sure he will be pleased with the outcome of Alan's work !!!!

Thanks John. 198 says the doors he gave the shop were near perfect. Can you say switch-a-roo

Quote:

Originally Posted by ol Curt (Post 3340470)
Hmmmm Ball Ground, GA.....Newburgh , IN
Couldn't be that far. Heck, he might have a whole slough of us lined up along his street with trucks needing work!:lol:

That would be a dream come true. If I had the space I'd say come on.

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe231 (Post 3340584)
dangit!!!

dangit........what??? Did I miss something.;)

198plus 06-03-2009 12:24 AM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Thanks for the welcome everyone.........Thought I'd share a couple pics with y'all.

This is the first engine I built for it.........It's a 355 with a set of RPM heads 2.02 valves with 64cc.......Crane cam 488-510 LIFT, 234-244 @ 0.50 lift DURATION, 112 LOBE SEP. With a 30 spline 700R trans with 2800 lockup stall.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...1/truck034.jpg

Had this all finished with new Hot Jet coated headers....And was sitting in my garage one night and said what the hell I'll put a Big Block in it !!!!!

So here was my next engine project.......

1970 402 BBC....30 over......408ci

11.1 compression

Speed Pro ZL2328F-30 Forged Pistons....0.319 Dome

Comp Custom Grind (ROLLER CAM)..... 570/578 lift.......234/240 Duration @ 50
820 Oval Port heads 110cc......Comp roller springs

Comp Roller rockers 1.7

Lunati Full Roller Timing Set with Torrington Bearings

Edelbrock Torker 2 Intake

Quick Fuel 750 Carb.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...es1/My4021.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...es1/My4022.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...pes1/my402.jpg

Now I have changed my mine again and I'm in the process now of building new engine again ???????

Strodder 06-03-2009 10:40 AM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Sounds like you'll be spending a lot of money on this project.

MacAttack 06-03-2009 10:45 AM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Sweet power plant - that girl’s going to be setting the rear meats on fire, for sure!

Welcome from the Left Coast.

Mac.

joe231 06-03-2009 11:09 AM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
my eyes deceiving me or does the carb sit crooked?
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...es1/My4021.jpg

Strodder 06-03-2009 11:14 AM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Yup that's right

70 Suburban 06-03-2009 01:13 PM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
More direct path for fuel. Less pressure deferential.

joe231 06-03-2009 01:18 PM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
looks like a pain with a solid throttle linkage....

70 Suburban 06-03-2009 01:31 PM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
I'm using a pedal and cable from a 72

198plus 06-03-2009 03:23 PM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Yea the carb does set ....crooked.......It's an Edelbrock Torker intake back from the old days.......Good conversation piece.


Quote:

Originally Posted by joe231 (Post 3341203)
my eyes deceiving me or does the carb sit crooked?
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...es1/My4021.jpg


protrash64 06-03-2009 09:47 PM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
My buddy had one of those on his 396 '68 Camaro.....we rolled it into the woods......and I still have scars:smoke::lol:

Alan's Classic 06-03-2009 10:44 PM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
198 will pick up the bed and fenders Friday to go to the blaster. Nothing to work on tonight, so I worked on mine.

What has to be done to a 65 auto column for a power glide to work with a 3 spd auto if anything other than the indicator. Can the indicator be replaced with a different indicator? I'm curious if there is enough movement in the shifter to operate a 3 spd.

Thanks

joe231 06-03-2009 10:53 PM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
everything I have read says there is plenty of movement to go with a 4 speed auto even...classic parts sells indicators

http://www.classicparts.com/1947-87-...ctinfo/77-361/

http://www.classicparts.com/1947-87-...ctinfo/77-371/

Alan's Classic 06-03-2009 11:05 PM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joe231 (Post 3342311)
everything I have read says there is plenty of movement to go with a 4 speed auto even...classic parts sells indicators

http://www.classicparts.com/1947-87-...ctinfo/77-361/

http://www.classicparts.com/1947-87-...ctinfo/77-371/

Thanks Joe. :thumbs:

Alan's Classic 06-11-2009 09:59 PM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
198Plus brought some sand blasted parts to me today. First I was going to spray DP90 on everything, but was thinking what a waste of material. So I started by circling damage and pounding out dents and welding up holes. I got rear fenders front/rear beat out and welded. The right fender will need a lower patch. After the metal work gets done I will coat with DP90 for now. Here are some pics.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...d/DSC00170.jpg

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It's amazing what people can hide with filler

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...d/DSC00181.jpg

This is one of the areas that I beat out.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...d/DSC00187.jpg

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http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...s/DSC00190.jpg

Holes welded up. Instead of patching the holes in the front I just welded them up. There was enough metal there to weld too. 198 wants me to save him as much as I can. As long as I can get a good weld on it, it should last just as long as a patch. I spent 2 hours today

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...s/DSC00192.jpg

2+2=4 total

70 Suburban 06-11-2009 11:10 PM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
great job.. I came to the same conclusion.... why spray DP if I am going to beat and grind it off... but I am in Texas were we have 100% humidity also. so i have to find a medium.

MacAttack 06-12-2009 10:33 AM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
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OMG!........can't believe people really do that. :lol:

70 Suburban 06-12-2009 11:22 AM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
I had a truck one time that had a stop sign rivited to the floor.

Alan's Classic 06-12-2009 11:34 AM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
My neighbor long time ago bought an old truck one day that was just painted. He was so happy til he close the door and heard something funny. he opened the door and a big chunk of filler fell out on the ground with a piece of aluminum foil stuck to it. I felt sorry for him.

I've also seen great stuff foam shaped to the contour of the panel and mudded over.

I'm sure there are alot of similar stories around.

Alan's Classic 06-12-2009 10:38 PM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Spent another 1.5 hrs welding up holes and beating dents out on the inner bed panels and worked on the RT front fender.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...d/DSC00212.jpg

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http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...s/DSC00211.jpg

4+1.5=5.5 total

Alan's Classic 06-12-2009 10:47 PM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
198 is this how you want your upper rails plugged?

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...DSC00215-1.jpg

70 Suburban 06-12-2009 11:03 PM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
I have seen the red dots from tail lights stuck in there.. Hey allan. another little trick is to go to the auto parts and get a freeze plug and tap it in. it sits in there nice. and if you weld it the bevel keeps the weld in tight so less grinding

Alan's Classic 06-12-2009 11:10 PM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 70 Suburban (Post 3357169)
I have seen the red dots from tail lights stuck in there.. Hey allan. another little trick is to go to the auto parts and get a freeze plug and tap it in. it sits in there nice. and if you weld it the bevel keeps the weld in tight so less grinding

Thanks for the tips.

70 Suburban 06-12-2009 11:13 PM

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
n/p your my inspration to get my build goin. wich by the way Im goin to pic up the cab and doner cab for the ext. cab 66 tomarrow.


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