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I'm not sure if this belongs here or not but they sure are heavy they weren't made by the general but they needed a reliable heart with a great service network let's talk about the heavy trucks, tractors, cranes, ect. with GM hearts the first one was John Deere's second attempt at a 4 wheel drive tractor the recalled 8010's (the tractor in the 2nd pic) were upgraded with better seals between the 6 cylinder Detroit and the 8 speed road ranger I believe? and a better oil pump and something to do with better cooling it could pull an 8 bottom plow a 7 mph and back then they cost brand new in 1960 $30-35,000 dollars the third and fourth pic is the one year only made equipped with a 2-53 2 cylinder GM Diesel engine
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I never knew they made one until I was over at a guy's house one day who has a bunch of old trucks and equipment, back around '92. He was showing me his collection and mentioned something about a Detroit and the John Deere. I saw the Tractor and was looking around for the Detroit. I walked back over to him and said, "I saw the John Deere, but didn't see any Detroit near it". He then said "No, the Detroit is "in" the John Deere". Well being an old Detroit fan and a recent John Deere fan, I couldn't believe it. Asked him about selling it, as I was looking to soon replace my little '46 Ford 2N, but we never got together on it. In '99 I made up my mind to replace it for sure and found one nearby for a reasonable price. Mine is a '59. (They are all Model 435's). Bill |
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Oliver had the model 99 that was Detroit powered.
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I believe the Oliver has a 3-71.
I've seen them at the Tractor Pull and they sure do sound sweet, especially with a Straight Stack like the one above. Bill |
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The Super 99, updated 990 and 995[with Allison torque converter] all used the 3-71 , plus Oliver made the Massey 98. The 6V71 fits in those chassis as well.
The 2-53 in the Deere 435 is derated to try to preserve the final drive, small injectors, no oil cooler, special water pump. |
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here are some pic of the P&H T-300 30 ton boom crane my parents have one that I do not have pictures of I don't know the transmission on it although it is a twin stick and it has a Detroit Diesel I don't know what it is but she does your typical leaking when stored for the winter lol
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Lots of GM-powered equipment out there,especially diesel. It seems Detroit was a favorite for fire trucks and mobile cranes. Then,there were GM's own heavy equipment companies. Next we'll have to do a thread on GM-powered boats
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They say Detroit Diesels helped win the War!!
Seeing that they were first out in '38, they were all ready well established by the time they were needed for war in late '41. A list of uses all through the years: -Trucks -Buses -Tanks -Ships -Boats -Generators -Pumps -Tractors -Dozers -Loaders -Backhoes -Cranes -Forklifts (keep adding to the list) |
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How about heavy machinery powered AND built by GM? The Euclid TC12 was the baddest crawler tractor on the planet starting in '55 (55-68-Euclid/68-74-Terex). Twin 6-71s and two Allison 3spd Torqmatics mounted in a split frame that allowed each side to oscillate over uneven ground. Suspension...what? The controls required were but simple. Two levers and two pedals. One pedal each side for brakes and one lever each side controlled steering and throttle for each engine. Steering was done by the amount of throttle to each side. So it could spin on a dime with one throttle forward and one throttle back. I've herd guys talk about these for years and there's a lot of love out there for these,yet. I spotted one along the hiway on our way up to Macungie this year. Hmmmm.... How bad do I need that?
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Here are some pics of the John Deere 440 industrial 2 cylinder crawler and wheel tractor the were offered with your choice of 3 different engines either the extremely rare all fuel model, gasoline model, or the 2-53 GM Diesel engine. various equipment options could be had such as dozer blades, loaders, pipe laying cranes ,cable layers they also could be had with a direction reverser and pilot touch control was available on the crawler models it eliminated the dual control levers for a single control lever but it did not do very well and constantly needed adjusted and was recalled and the dual control levers were installed
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Euclid...GM 1953-1968 till the Fed made them change things up,which is when Terex got started. I grew up with Euclids and was fascinated by them.
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All very impressive, but I think I have you beat:
http://www.oerm.org/collection/santa-fe/atsf-98 Don't forget, GM founded EMD, one of the largest manufacturers of diesel-electric railroad locomotives. This particular locomotive is an FP45 from 1967. It has a turbocharged 20 cylinder EMD 654 diesel of 3,600 h.p.. These engines are similar to Detroits in that they are 2 stroke, and the '654' designation stands for the cubic inch displacement of one cylinder! I volunteer at that museum, and have had the pleasure of not only working on that particular locomotive (it is currently being restored) but operating it as well. |
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Dang Bob,I knew they had major power and major engines but you put it all in perspective. That's huge! (and a handsome devil,too)
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What i always found ironic was the fact that ford used detroits alot in there big trucks, seen tons for sale, but i guess the saying is true, fords run better with gm parts.
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Yeah, Ford got their share of Detroits, but you could actually get one in just about any truck, American Made anyway. I've seen some interesting combinations, although not real sure they were all factory, but a Detroit in a B-Model Mack is pretty interesting and I've also seen a 6-71 in an R-Model Mack. They put plenty of 8V-71's in them, but a 6-71 is pretty rare in an R.
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One thing ive noticed with the older trucks is they may have offered various brand (cat, cummins, detroit) but it always seemed one manufacturer preffered one brand, like the older IH trucks, they offered those 3, but it seems like the cummins was the most popular for them and older kenworths, and cat was the most popular in peterbilts.
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I believe that would mow my fields with no problem, lol.
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The song that could sing...
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Its too bad gm didnt get more into the ag market, if they made tractors, they would have been some of the best.
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The early venture in the Sampson was GM's tractor .
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I had known that, i meant more modern tractors with detroits, somethin to compete with ih, j.i.case and deere, as well as ford. I suppose the closest would be the kinze repowered deeres, those all had detroits, some i think were v12's.
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Yeah, the R-Model with the 6-71 was running around back in the 80's. Even then I questioned if it was original or not. I would had guessed it was owner installed, but I never got a chance to talk to the driver.
I used to ride in a '70 R-700 with an 8V-71 and a 5 X 4 Trans. That was one heck of a truck. It had little short mufflers on the Dual Stacks and sure sounded sweet. Bill |
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I wonder if a 6-71 could be installed in a 73-87 truck, that would be pretty sweet.
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In Iraq I drove one of these.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_E...Tactical_Truck Mine was the M984 Wrecker. there wasn't much that I asked it to do that it couldn't do. Funny story, I had a muffler go bad on us out in the field so we straight piped that bad boy for the last 100 miles of the convoy. The sound of that turbo spinning up is still music to my ears.:lol: |
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Sure is a pretty big rig. Bill |
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Heavy at 30'00 lb's and has a 671
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7fa96707.jpg The blue one behind it has a 471. Both belong to my brother |
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Don't forget the military especially in WWII http://usautoindustryworldwartwo.com...oit-diesel.htm
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Great Link there mrolds88.
If only half of American industries, had half the pride that they had in their corporation, it sure would be a different country today. Bill |
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Thanks for sharing this. As a new resident to So Cal, I will be coming up and taking a look at the Museum's operations. |
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