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Dinos63 05-02-2012 11:22 PM

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I found this truck on craig list and watched it for a few months and finally pulled the trigger .After helping dbomb on his short bed got me feaning for another project.This 64 was a friend of mines truck that he drove for 30 years in the appliance install biz. He sold it a few years back and it just resurfaced.My plans are to bag it with a pancake front cross member, nate built me some arms for it and a center trailing arm suport,and a huge notch for the rear with the p/b hinges also to install a big back window .The truck came with a new 350 crate motor and a turbo 400.I been gathering parts for a week or so and have almost every thing i need to get it done and not at DELMO speed(:lol::lol:) but maybe 4 week or so, Parts i have collected, big window back half, all the suspension and air ride stuff bags , plates ect ect, 98 chevy bench, new gauge cluster ,some cool old school aluminum wheels (16teens)custom long bed with trim and tail gate , steel floor from 67-72 truck, big step bumper. still need is the complete harness,carpet,gas tank for the rear, and clean 64 aluminum custom grill.I had some time saturday so power washed the truck real good pulled the flat bed off and got it home . I pull the interior out and the front end off and the motor ready to come out,wont have much time in the next few weeks , but then i will be able to start cranking it out with the help my right hand man joe (aka mr sheet metal)I want to build this truck to be able to tow my trailer .I will stay with pantina look also.... for know

Dinos63 05-02-2012 11:24 PM

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Dinos63 05-02-2012 11:26 PM

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lil mo

DRTYRAT30 05-02-2012 11:29 PM

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Right on man, sounds like fun. You always put out top quality stuff that strays from the norm, im sure this will be no different....

Dinos63 05-02-2012 11:30 PM

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Dinos63 05-02-2012 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DRTYRAT30 (Post 5350052)
Right on man, sounds like fun. You always put out top quality stuff that strays from the norm, im sure this will be no different....

thanks jesse,and ya never know when another crewcab body my show up (muh haa )and just stretch the frame on the truck

shrunken66stroker 05-02-2012 11:39 PM

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Dude. You're an animal. Can't wait to see how this one turns out.:metal:

ChevyTruckGuy 05-03-2012 12:24 AM

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When I grow up I want to be just like Dino... Chevy ONLY!!!

Sounds like a good choice for a tow rig.

DLOE65 05-03-2012 12:52 AM

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Siiickk Dino! i like the "OHH SHEEIITTTT!" Bar on the glove box :D ... you gonna make a custom fleetside dually bed??

duallyjams 05-03-2012 09:27 AM

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Yeah Dually are cool.

way2lo2 05-03-2012 10:01 AM

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Dino, do you ever stop? You are the man

Dinos63 05-03-2012 10:27 AM

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THANKS DUUDES!dloe i am, i got a clean bed and 59 step side fenders joe center the wheel opening already, i need to pm you for some valves

DLOE65 05-03-2012 11:02 AM

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Got them ready.. Let me know when!
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creep 05-03-2012 11:28 AM

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A crew cab dually would be killer. Very comfortable for a long roadtrip, like to Columbus maybe? ;)

franky69c10 05-03-2012 01:04 PM

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This is gonna b sick Dino :metal: whats ur plans for the motor, rebuild or new ?
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lolife99 05-03-2012 01:54 PM

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You can use that York A/C compressor for your onboard air.
Subscribing,... again!

Dinos63 05-03-2012 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dloe65 (Post 5350711)
got them ready.. Let me know when!
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ready kat pm me!

63 extreme low 05-03-2012 02:36 PM

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Damn, Dino! You the man, you have built a fleet of:metal: trucks and I am still doing rust repair on mine!!!

MisterC 05-03-2012 02:40 PM

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Subscribed to this build. I have to live vicariuosly through you, Dino.

I'll be out in your neck of the woods next month to drop my daughter off at ASU. I'd like to stop by your shop and check things out if you'll have some time.

darkhorse970 05-03-2012 04:12 PM

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I'm in, I always wanted to build an old dually.

socallowboy 05-03-2012 06:43 PM

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Oh Yea This ones gonna be good!!! Good Luck with it Dino

Dunenutt 05-03-2012 07:44 PM

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Can't wait to see this hauling the Pro street down the highway!

Dinos63 05-03-2012 08:01 PM

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Can't wait to see this hauling the Pro street down the highway!

did you see your truck in the goodguys gazzette? congrats

Dunenutt 05-03-2012 08:25 PM

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did you see your truck in the goodguys gazzette? congrats

Thanks, I was surprised:metal: They had a very nice comment also. There are also two tailgate shots, behind the blue truck. And speaking of behind, they also shot my sisters best side, walking with her boyfriend:lol:

awbrown 05-03-2012 09:09 PM

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OK Dino you have forced me off the computer and out to the garage .....

65 old school 05-03-2012 10:06 PM

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WOW!.. Only you can pump em out in record time!. 4 weeks, KNOCK IT OFF!.. You make the rest of us look bad. Like all the others trucks you've done, can't wait to see how this one turns out!. Nice find.

55reasons 05-03-2012 11:50 PM

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Nice article on the Creamsicle in the issue of Classic Trucks I saw on the stand today!

I'll be keeping an eye on this project too since it has a lot in common with the intent of my C10.

I'll be up in PHX on Sat morning picking up some parts...

Have fun with the build!

dbomb53 05-04-2012 12:25 AM

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Dude you need your own tv show, I heard lamar and kloe are taking a break, maybe they can come film around your shop! I'll be the dude running to get your drink....lol
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63GMCKid 05-04-2012 01:15 AM

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I'll be watching this one, love the look of a lowered dually. Are you keeping the HO52/72 in it? I ask because the lowest (numerically) ratio available for them is 4.11, with typical street truck sized tires and no overdrive it seems like that engine will be wound out pretty good at higher speeds, any concerns about that?

Got any more pictures of that rear overload leaf setup? Looks different from all of the factory stuff I've ever seen on these.

64shortc10 05-04-2012 03:03 AM

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Bad @$$ Dino! I thought about turning my motor home into a long bed dually too! I might if it doesn't sell soon! I'll be watching this one!
Tony from Norcal
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Dinos63 05-04-2012 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by lolife99 (Post 5350931)
You can use that York A/C compressor for your onboard air.
Subscribing,... again!

good call but a gave all the ac stuff to my buddy joe . i still have one oasis compressor left but i am just going to run the 480 dual pack

Dinos63 05-04-2012 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 63GMCKid (Post 5352212)
I'll be watching this one, love the look of a lowered dually. Are you keeping the HO52/72 in it? I ask because the lowest (numerically) ratio available for them is 4.11, with typical street truck sized tires and no overdrive it seems like that engine will be wound out pretty good at higher speeds, any concerns about that?

Got any more pictures of that rear overload leaf setup? Looks different from all of the factory stuff I've ever seen on these.

yeah when i pull all that stuff off i will take some pics.I am going to give all that over load stuff to a dude that has a flat bed. I agree i never seen such massive over load on a trailing arm set up , the rear end is 7'and i like that its narrow but that good info on those gears. when i drove the truck home it seemed to have a tall gear in it i will have to ask my diff guy

Dinos63 05-04-2012 11:08 AM

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Dude you need your own tv show, I heard lamar and kloe are taking a break, maybe they can come film around your shop! I'll be the dude running to get your drink....lol
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:lol::lol::lol:

Dinos63 05-04-2012 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 55reasons (Post 5352043)
Nice article on the Creamsicle in the issue of Classic Trucks I saw on the stand today!

I'll be keeping an eye on this project too since it has a lot in common with the intent of my C10.

I'll be up in PHX on Sat morning picking up some parts...

Have fun with the build!

thanks , were at in phoenix?

Dinos63 05-04-2012 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 65 old school (Post 5351761)
WOW!.. Only you can pump em out in record time!. 4 weeks, KNOCK IT OFF!.. You make the rest of us look bad. Like all the others trucks you've done, can't wait to see how this one turns out!. Nice find.

:lol::lol: will see that the plan, lets see if liz lets me:lol::lol:

Dinos63 05-04-2012 11:22 AM

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OK Dino you have forced me off the computer and out to the garage .....

:lol::lol:

Dinos63 05-04-2012 11:24 AM

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thanks duudes for all the cool suport and coments!

55reasons 05-04-2012 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dinos63 (Post 5352646)
thanks , were at in phoenix?

Way down in Buckeye area.

Then a stop in Gila Bend to pick up my 14 bolt rear end.

63GMCKid 05-04-2012 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dinos63 (Post 5352625)
yeah when i pull all that stuff off i will take some pics.I am going to give all that over load stuff to a dude that has a flat bed. I agree i never seen such massive over load on a trailing arm set up , the rear end is 7'and i like that its narrow but that good info on those gears. when i drove the truck home it seemed to have a tall gear in it i will have to ask my diff guy


Well if you know what the current tire size is and what RPM you were turning at a given speed, the only ratios offered in the Eaton HO52/72's were 4.11, 4.56, and 5.13, so you could plug those numbers into an online gear calculator and figure out what ratio you've got by process of elimination.

Years ago there was a company that made a 3.73 gear set for the Eaton HO52/72, can't remember the name of the company, but it was a short production run, I personally have never seen such a R&P set for sale, I learned about it from the Eaton HO72 thread on Pirate4x4, so I would assume they are very rare, but it might be worth a shot trying to track a set down.

The Eatons are excellent axles, easy to work on, extremely strong, fairly light weight when converted to disc brakes (Lighter than a 14bolt with discs) and still lighter than a 14bolt with drums if you keep the drum brakes. Only downside to them really is the pinion bearings are weird and extremely expensive, there is a taper roller pinion bearing with a dual outer race, so its like 2 bearings in 1, usually runs about $400-$450 for a new one, and there is a double row ball pinion bearing that usually runs about $300-$350 new, and the double row ball pinion bearings aren't very desirable for obvious reasons.

An easy way to tell which you have without pulling the 3rd.... if you are looking at the axle facing the pinion, looking at the 5 bolt flange that retains the pinion bearing/seal, at the lower drivers side edge of that flange, if there is a small hump that looks like it has a channel extending behind it on the 3rd, and a small hump that extends from the rib right above the flange down to the flange face, both of those things mean it has the taper roller pinion bearing (Those are the oiling and oil return channels). If it doesn't have both of those features, then it has the double row ball bearing for the pinion bearing.

In my opinion these axles are worth putting a bit of work into to keep them running strong in these old trucks. If your 3rd ends up being one with the double row ball bearing pinion bearing, I would say its worth it to go on the hunt for another 3rd with the taper roller pinion bearing, usually you can get a complete axle or a complete 3rd for $50 to $200 on CL.

Now all of this is pointless if you want to run something numerically lower than 4.11, in which case I'd say just pick up a used narrow 14 bolt dually from a cab&chassis truck.

67cheby 05-05-2012 01:13 PM

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SWEEEEEEEEEETTTT !!!!!!!! i am late as always...but i am HERE !! WOW !


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