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Steven Sellers 12-26-2004 10:12 PM

Safe tow rope options?
 
Hi guys, I know yall have used tow ropes so which ones are good and SAFE!!
We used log chains when I was on the farm and never had a problem so I am dumb when it comes to the rope thing.
Ive seen pics and heard horror stories on what happens when a tow rope goes bad, even saw a pic that showed one with a hook on the end going through a Jeep windshield and the headrest.

So cmon I know you guys have the info and safety concerns saved up......let me hereem. :D

Thx
Steve

71swb4x4 12-26-2004 10:18 PM

I use a tow strap. I have had it for years and it has never failed me. I love it!!

71swb4x4 12-26-2004 10:21 PM

Forgot to mention, I don't use hooks. I hook one end to the other vehicle's tow hook, or wrap it around the frame if it's ever possible. I slide the other end in my receiver hitch and slide the pin through. Tow hooks on the front in case I ever have to be pulled out, but hasn't been a problem yet :D

Steven Sellers 12-26-2004 10:23 PM

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Where did you buy it and what brand? Thats actually what I was thinking about was a strap. Also I probally should mention if someone has to pull me out I have a 2500HD 4x4 with a dry weight of 5600lbs

71swb4x4 12-26-2004 10:26 PM

I bought mine from Summit Racing. I think it was $50. They have them rated for 10,000 to 40,000 pounds. The ones with the hooks have a much lower rating. Check out www.summitracing.com They range from $16 to $86. Drop the dough for a nice one, you never know how much it may mean to you some day.

4x4Poet 12-27-2004 05:58 AM

Simple. Use a quality brand 3-inch tug 'em strap rated for over 30,000 lbs. Never a 2-inch with any rating. I think ARB makes some good ones, but, to my knowledge, most brands are comparable within the same strap width and rating.

Look for a 3-inch strap with lined loop-ends. The loop-end lining should be tough to protect the loop-end material from abrasion. You don't want hooks or clevises coming in direct friction contact with the nylon fiber.

For any connection not made to factory tow hooks, use very strong clevises. US made. Or Japanese, if they exist. And never connect two 30-foot straps together. That's a major rubber band effect accident waiting to happen. :eek:

Mudder 12-27-2004 09:28 AM

Never hook a strap to a trailer ball. Use straps with loops on the ends like Poet says and use good clevis'. For just pulling something around on the street a 2 inch will be fine but never for retrieving stuck vehicles. Wrapping a strap arround a sharp edge will cut it.

JIMs70GMC 12-27-2004 12:24 PM

I'd say have a couple different ones. I have a 30' 4" wide strap, that is not always convenient to use. Depending on the situation a short 8' is great to have. Also look into lifting slings, they dont stretch and are made to higher standard(lifting). The one's I've seen are about 6' long and 3" across w/ abrasion protection in the loop ends. I plan on purchasing a 20' 3" wide snatch strap to complement what I already have.

4x4Poet 12-27-2004 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Steven Sellers
...Thats actually what I was thinking about was a strap. Also I probally should mention if someone has to pull me out I have a 2500HD 4x4 with a dry weight of 5600lbs

I probably should mention that my first post only addressed tug 'em straps used by one vehicle to jerk another out of a stuck situation. I did so based on the above statement quoted. I'll leave tow straps, chains, etc. to others with more such expertise than I. :)

784X4GUY 12-28-2004 01:12 PM

Speaking of tow straps I need to get me one, right now I still use a 35' log chain. Never broke on me yet, but I just don't want that day to come. Yall know what I mean...Later Mike

Prerunner1982 12-28-2004 01:23 PM

I have spent enough time using chains that thats what i use.. safest? probably not.. but thats all that he military uses, have i seen them break? yes.. but i have also seen a 34,000lbs truck (my wrecker) use chains to pull out stuck hmmwvs... seen 2 hmmvws use chains to pull our stuck dueces too...

784X4GUY 12-28-2004 01:41 PM

yeap...I hear ya prerunner well maybe Ill just stick with my chain. Its just that a rope is lighter so I wouldn't have to lug around that big a#$ chain I've got...Later Mike

Destructo 12-28-2004 10:59 PM

I only use straps with NO hooks on the ends and good strong clevices or make sure there is a nice strong tow hook to attached it too.

Or I just use the 150Ft of 8mm wire rope on the front of my truck known as a winch :p

784X4GUY 12-28-2004 11:22 PM

I see what your saying Destructo I can't wait to get me a Warn Winch and Bumper. Or actually Id like to mount it under the stock bumper like they did in the peterson's four wheel drive mag...Later Mike

Destructo 12-28-2004 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 784X4GUY
I see what your saying Destructo I can't wait to get me a Warn Winch and Bumper. Or actually Id like to mount it under the stock bumper like they did in the peterson's four wheel drive mag...Later Mike

Hmm, I didn't see that, i'll have to check that out.

I bought a Warn Classic bumper for my winch, looks pretty good and now I have to decent seats on the front of my truck lol.

Mudder 12-28-2004 11:37 PM

Just one thing for everyone to remember. There's a lot of force on a chain or strap and if broken they can kill you or anyone else standing close.

784X4GUY 12-29-2004 12:19 AM

I hear ya there mudder we once had a little hand come along break on us. When we were trying to winch out a mustang out of a mudhole. (Don't ask lol). And that sucker went flying through the air scared the crap outta all of us...Later Mike

784X4GUY 12-29-2004 12:20 AM

Destucto...Yeah it was at the begining of this year I do believe it was on that military K30 they bought. The one that was camo remember?...Later Mike

ChebyCheyenne 12-29-2004 07:57 PM

i bought a tow strap at a garage sale where this guy was selling off a bunch of army surplus stuff. Its 60' long and holds 40,000lbs. Good deal for $10 :D

matt

Steven Sellers 12-29-2004 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4x4Poet
I probably should mention that my first post only addressed tug 'em straps used by one vehicle to jerk another out of a stuck situation. I did so based on the above statement quoted. I'll leave tow straps, chains, etc. to others with more such expertise than I. :)

Well thats actually what I was looking for I misworded it I guess. Im not going to tow anything down the road unless it is an extreme emergency. Just got to thinkin about it the other day when a fellow was in the ditch and me and the other guy with a Z71 had nothing to pull him out with.

Thx for all the advice guys like I said we used log chains on the farm to jerk everything out but was looking for yalls opinion on all available options.

Steve

cableguy0 12-29-2004 09:51 PM

log chain never use a strap again. broke 5 of em in the matter of 20 minutes . would much rather trust a piece of metal than some dinky ass piece of fiber. good chain will last a long time and not break. nothing is exactly safe except a winch in one of those situations.the best bet is to just stay the f@#k outta the way

67_SS396 12-30-2004 01:40 AM

Most of the off road parks around here won't let you use chains or straps with hooks. I have a line on some of the straps that the railroad uses, they are 6" wide and will handle whatever I can throw at it. I'm slowly saving my nickels and dimes for a winch this summer, that way I typically won't have to worry about having someone around to pull me out.

784X4GUY 12-30-2004 01:57 AM

Yes very good reason there 67SS I can't wait till im able to get me one...Later Mike

Destructo 12-30-2004 07:17 PM

I traded my suzuki samurai for the winch I got, kinda wish I hadn't now, but I think it was a good trade.

Stomper_1_Ton 01-01-2005 02:56 PM

Here is a reminder of what can go wrong when using tow straps incorrectly.....It only takes one time:(

Accident this fall

'71c204x4454 01-02-2005 03:17 AM

Here is a good sight for the right equipment. http://www.recoverygear.com/DEFAULT1.HTM

Mudder 01-02-2005 01:16 PM

I added that link to the world of information sticky. Thanks

1FaastC10 01-02-2005 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cableguy0
log chain never use a strap again. broke 5 of em in the matter of 20 minutes . would much rather trust a piece of metal than some dinky ass piece of fiber. good chain will last a long time and not break. nothing is exactly safe except a winch in one of those situations.the best bet is to just stay the f@#k outta the way

you're absolutely right, i'd much rather have a heavy metal chain flying at my head at 200mph when it breaks than have one of those pesky nylon straps break and just fall to the ground. idiots. :crazy:

500HP/SB 01-04-2005 02:19 AM

i go pick up my $500 power wagon tomorrow, has a "hickey" behind bumper, winch.....not sure what i'm doing with the truck but the winch is going on my k10 :D

every one shoud read this post.....just friday night i didnt hesitate to hook 2 tow straps and 2 chains together to get a 2wd ranger out of the mud....wont ever do that again :banghead:

454_72_4X4 01-04-2005 03:11 AM

Like everyone else says, straps with no hooks are the best.
I've only got one little strap probably 6 foot and 6000lb rating or so but I just use it to pull the "dead" trucks/cars around and into/out of the shop.

I usually use some chains from work they call "lifting chains". They are 3/8 chain and certified of some sort. Grade 70 I think. I'd have to read the tags again to be sure. I've seen these chains lift the rear of a 970 Cat loader with it trying to lift something else. I've also seen the same loader snap 1in cable like peanut butter doing the same thing.
I don't worry much about them breaking but I also don't jerk on them.

Except once when my temper got the best of me trying to pull a tree stump out. :rolleyes: Bent my reciever hitch insert, rivited the reciever pin hole so the insert wouldn't come out, bent the chit out of my steering wheel, broke the turn signal lever, and almost put myself through the windshield!
Tree stump 1 : Me 0 ;)

A couple other things is to try to hook low so if something does break there's less chance of it getting into the cab and the old throw a heavy coat/blanket over whatever you're pulling with, (strap/cable/chain).

4x4Poet 01-05-2005 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 500HP/SB
...every one shoud read this post.....just friday night i didnt hesitate to hook 2 tow straps and 2 chains together to get a 2wd ranger out of the mud....wont ever do that again :banghead:

Thankyou for your honest testimony. Along with the link posted earlier, I hope you've helped someone.

Mudder 01-05-2005 11:43 AM

I used to do a lot of wheelin and I carried (still do) a 3x30 ft tow strap and clevis's. I have seen 3 trucks hooked together trying to pull one out with a 3 inch and it didnt break. I saw a 2 inch break but never a 3 inch, unless it had a bad place in it. Never hook a strap to where it can be cut by a sharp edge. I also carried a very short chain in case I didnt have anything to hook to, then I would still use the tow strap and clevis.

This thread will be a sticky for a while. If it keeps 1 person from getting hurt it will be worth it.

useRc10 01-20-2005 03:05 AM

another question for you guys...if i were to come across a new car stuck in a ditch or something from snow, where is the best place to hook a strap to on their car? Theres too much plastic and stuff (I have tow hooks so that wouldnt be a problem)

rodnok1 01-21-2005 06:09 PM

Most new cars have a spot were they tie them down for transport, one problem is the angle from your truck. It helps to have a cheapo short strap(if it gets cut no biggie) to loop around an axle or susp member. I won't yank on them, just a slow pull, if they don't come out see ya.

arkracing 01-24-2005 05:41 PM

new cars usually have chinsey "tow hooks" under the bumper that shouldn't be trusted. best place to hook them is around a lower ctrl arm in the front and around the rear axel in the back if you can.

best suggestion would be to get a good size strap - and loop it around the rear axle and put an old sweatshirt against the "SMP" plastic bumper to avoid scratching it.

i used to run a rollback for the bodyshop that i worked for and even with that they are a pain in the neck to load - the bumpers usually hit either the ground or the bed when winching them up.


NOTE: All you guys using a tow "CHAIN" ...i'll make a suggestion that goes along with "putting a old heavy coat on the chain to help it from flying"

get another chain and drape it back and forth over your tow chain towards the middle...this works better with a shorter length of tow chain. - the weight of "safety chain" will - help but not eliminate the possibility of the chain "flying"...it may slow it down or help it to "drop" quicker.

i picked up that tip from working on the frame machine in the Body Shop...

Mudder 08-03-2005 12:11 PM

Ttt

1972ChevyCheyenne 08-04-2005 07:00 PM

We use chains on the farm. I think our big chain we use for pulling and lifting is 1/2 inch grade 70. I think the most dangerous thing you can do is jerk on stuff. That's when things usually break. If it don't move get a bigger tow vehicle. For heavy stuff like tractors in mud another option is to use two tractors to pull it out. Hook two seperate chains/straps to the stuck machine and pull away from each other at a 30 degree angle or so. Creates a bow effect and the stuck vehicle should move. And if your really screwed






http://www.yoderandfrey.com/fl2005fi...70%20(473).jpg

you can dig you around and pull. They also can lift the vehicle up and over a bump. And while their are their they can dig a tile in and fix the ones you broke. :lol:

Jamie

BIGT05 08-21-2005 12:58 PM

i ususally use a chain >to heavy to fly and hit anything if it snaps< also i trust em cause i know they would support the weight of my vehicle if it was falling off a cliff ! so those old rusty humungoes logging chains are what im going to use till the day i die

Ochre 09-13-2005 01:36 PM

Never mix & match metal and strap, its a very bad idea to do, as pointed out in the jeepaholics link this CAN KILL YOU.

The jeepaholic guy put together two straps with a clevis, which meant rubber band effect with a heavy metal piece in the middle. Straps will do the same things to chains, rubber band and when all that energy comes loose it will probably come flying towards whatevers pulling, meaning the guy who thinks he's smarter for not getting stuck..

shortymac83 09-15-2005 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mudder67
Never hook a strap to a trailer ball. Use straps with loops on the ends like Poet says and use good clevis'. For just pulling something around on the street a 2 inch will be fine but never for retrieving stuck vehicles. Wrapping a strap arround a sharp edge will cut it.


you wanna go ghetto? my girlfriend got her car stuck in the ditch that lined our property (turned too early off of our driveway), so I had to pull her out with the tractor. It's got a ball hitch on the front grille, and the crown vic had a ball hitch. took a towstrap, went bumper to bumper, put the strap on, revved it up and got a running start and yanked that bastard all the way out...IN SAND! WITH A 46 FORD 2N!


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