Rant/current events.
 

I've come to the conclusion that this site is going nowhere fast. I am sick of the BS, no one seems to support me or my staff, support the forums at all... We are a community and without a community watching out for each other it turns into a cesspool and ruins anything once good and fun. No matter what I seem to do I am the bad guy, I’m bad for banning rule violators cause they are popular, I’m bad if I don’t ban rule violators, I'm bad if I dont uphold the rules, I'm bad if I uphold the rules. I am sick of it all, I came close to just offing new subscriptions and all, waiting it out till most are expired and just closing the site. I will not do that, this site means to much to me, to you guys...

I spend 15-40 hours a week doing behind the scenes work, while dealing with home issues of my mom in bad health, fighting breast caner for 7 years, working full time, going to school at night, I get up at 7am, and get home at 10pm.... Yet anything I do is wrong according to the masses, I’m sick and tired of being called being on a power trip for upholding the rules, yet if I don’t do anything in time before it all goes bad I’m considered bad? You guys have to figure out wtf you want out of this site? I have it set as a family oriented place for truck enthusiasts to hang out... yet the trend seems to be try and violate the rules, then ***** if I give a 24hr slap to warn you, no one ever seems to listen unless I do a ban, so I just started doing bans non stop.

Another issue is avatars, if you see your avatar disappear and still have act access, be thankful and don't go on a 400000000 paragraph rant about me touching YOUR stuff. This site is mine, you are here by my rules, and the rules are ever changing, by y'alls input. I try to be fair in everything, never taking sides till I hear the full story, then get input form my moderators and others as to what we believe is the proper decision, yet everyone lambastes me as being a sided individual, I’ve been called a left wing commy, a right wing nut job, a libertarian freak, all in one week... I’m accused of taking sides due to the "buddy system" when all I do is try to get both sides of the story aired and get a settlement agreed upon. I’m a bad guy for enforcing vendor rules to keep people form making money off me, when I’m setting here near the end of the month trying to make sure n figure out I got enough fkn cash to pay for this place.

As of oct 15th, the parts boards will be pay to sale only, I am sick of dealing with the BS of people selling parts, ripping someone off etc. getting drug into it, missing sleep trying to please both sides, getting ***** at if I don’t respond in time.... only contributors and vendors will be able to sell, yeah i know it sucks, so does wasting your friday and saturday dealing with BS for no money, very few thanks, just to help people on as is where is buyer beware area.

If you cant act responsibly in public and have to act like a typical internet asshat, then your stay here will be very short, I’ve been generous on bans, but I see that is not working, I am going to have to start being a hardass, and I do not want to do that. Those that know the true me know I’m a giving caring guy who does anything for anyone as long as they are respectful... If you are unhappy hear as some seem to be, it is a simple thing to fix, LEAVE, I don't need your negativity bringing the whole place down cause of your unhappiness. If you feel something can be done to make you happy, email or pm me, and if I feel it’s a valid thing I will reply and try to assist.

We are going to start doing more contests and “fun” things. The articles contest needs more entries, stuff like how to time an engine, how to change oil, basic stuff new guys need to know, but afraid to ask…

Basically this is how it is;

No cross posting
Island of misfits post will stay till y'all get better at posting
Reading the rules will be mandatory when you log in
For sale posts will be part of the $25/yr subscription in order to post
Rules will be enforced, I hate it, I hate rules, but without order there is chaos, and chaos on the Internet does not work
Look for alto more contests and other fun things soon.

Josh...let me know if there is anything I can do to help...always wanting to help around here.

for the most part, i agree. i've never had problems with the parts board, but i've bought 2 things so i'm easily batting 1000.

Man this site is awesome your doing a hell of a job,I lost my previous status as kaycee don't know why but if you could let me know please do.I went through major withdrawls not being able to post or reply here.Keep up the good work and we appreciate everything you doing.

Josh, I have not been here that long, but I love this site and am on here everyday. Ask my wife...she hates it, by the way...lol

I hate that about the parts board. Some guys have really helped me out. I try to do the same for others. If I find a part at the yard I know someone needs, I sell it to them for cost plus shipping. Some guys have sent me items they had for just shipping...where else can you find good people like that?

I think this is a great forum with great members. Don't let a few bad apples spoilt the barrel.

My .02

The way I see it we are guests in Josh's house and if any one of us misbehaves, Josh can kick any one of us out for any reason he see's fit.

Thanks Josh for hanging in there an sticking with it.

Tom

As you can see, I have been here for quite a while but tend not to post to much...but check the site often. I have seen the site change over time and for the most part better. In my opinion, the decisions(pay to sell, strict enforcement rules) are a good idea. Keep up the great work!!!!

Hey, im all for doing what you gotta do to stay alive (so to speak) When board get big, the easy going days dissapear quick. Since coming here, I find the consensus of info to be pretty darned helpfull, and I appreciate having this site as a reference for my wrenching activities. Muchas Gracias!

Im kinda bummed about the decision to make the classifieds vendor/member, but one bad apple ruins it for everybody else. I dont think it is the mods responsibility to be drug into every kind of bad dealings. Unfortunatley, the mods are the only ones who have the power to try and make things right. Heh, I know, why not bring in some sort of escrow service so that nobody gets burned as easily, and will overall make the selling/buying experience more safe (I think it would be a pain in the rear actually, but what can you do to weed out the crooks, and allow everyone to sell stuff?)

Albeit annoying, I feel that maybe one person might actually learn from the rules if they were to read them before they could log in. Better yet, make em read them each time they try to make a post. I know I am not perfect, a mandatory refresher would remind me how things are supposed to be. One idea to go with this, add in a time delay, or some similar thing like that. It would make it so they have to ignore and be annoyed longer before they could get in. If they break a rule, they dont have an excuse, and cant claim ignorance because they had plenty of time to read the rules(maybe even give them a multiple choice quiz on the biggies at login??) How bout adding the checkbox of "I agree.... yada yada yada, violation will result in immediate yada yada yada?? Might make people think for more than a second?

Once again, we all appreciate your, and the other mods hard work, and hope the new changes you make will make everyones experience here better.

Thanks again. :thumb:

Believe me, you're not the only one with a wife that hates it.(or at least the amount of time spent here) :hm: I think that the change for the parts board is a good thing though. It makes an area that was once gray with who could sell what & how much clearly a black and white issue, and a one year subscription is only $25. Isn't the info alone worth the $25 a year? Considering how much time you (and I) spend here, wouldn't you give $25 a year to keep the board around? Josh obviously does a great job with the board, and puts up with way more headache than I would ever want. The people & crap that he has to put up with makes him come across as an ass sometimes, which is understandable. We don't see what he puts up with, and how people act/talk to him, we only see the reprocusions. I hope that the headache doesn't drive him away, but if things don't change, it eventually will. I've seen it many times in similar situations.

I don't blame you at all, Josh. It's a thankless job, no matter how you do it. I'm getting tired of all the whining and complaining, too. Thanks for all the work you have done.

:agree: 100% w/ Andy, anything you need J just let me know ;)

I agree
 

I agree that all that is done behind the scenes is very time consuming. I thank all who are responsible for this site. I have only been here a short time and have learned much more than I would have anywhere else on the web.

This is a great site and hope it is here for a long time as well as everybody else does. I don't sell or buy much but I am willing to pay an annual subscription. $25.00 does not sound bad at all. In fact let me know when it is due and who I am to send it to.

Again thanks to all involved.

Jason

Try here:

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/subscriptions.php3

No doubt you have your hands more than full Josh. Is there any way you could delegate some of your responsibility through other or additional mods? Just a thought. I think all members reading this would have more of a contribution to the board by BACKING OFF with your compaints unless their serious, read the frigging rules STICK to them... done! I also believe, if you have problems with buying parts after exhausting all means of communication with the seller and still don't receive them... DEAL with it. There is no way Josh or any mod is responsible for a bad transaction on-line. Sorry to hear about your mom Josh I hope she will get better. Thanks for all your hard work to make this board what it is :c2: . Regards Doug

Thanks for the words guys.

I am in the process of implementing a system to make the rules have to be read before allowed to even read the board now, It should be up soon but I didn't want to close the board for too long tonight during peak hours.

I would also like to make note that any current and future subscribers will be allowed to sell parts, it will be part of the package deal, unless someone comes up with a more viable way to keep the junk off the parts forums and keep the scammers out.

Josh

Hi Josh,
You probably don't need to hear this from a newbie, but I think this site is fantastic! You and all the mods do a great job, and I think MOST members would agree. You'll never be able to please everyone, but if you continue to be fair, you'll please most.
Anytime a decision goes against someone they'll be unhappy, and some others will support their position. Nothing can be done to change that.
But I want to personally thank you for this site. I have gleaned more knowledge in the past 2 months of membership than I can believe. It is amazing to me that so few members are actually cotributing with at least the min $25. That was one of the first things I did after finding the board.
I sympathise with you about the lack of appreciation and the time you spend working on the site. We all have busy, hectic lives, and you sound like you have more than a full plate. Your work IS app. Thanks,
Al Hoekenga

Not as effective, but it slows down the new scam artists, 6 months and 100 posts minimum to post in forsale. Plus trader feedback (similar to ebay) that shows their number right next to their name. If you have a high score, you should be able to trust them, low score, buyer beware.

ill just say this , guys , your kind words , & words of encouragment mean ALOT right now , i see alot of what goes on around here it has gotten out of hand but i have got to say it is members like you guys above me , the new guys tryin to learn new stuff and the older fellas that jump at the chance to help a young guy out without critisizing his progress or thoughts !! , you fellas are what makes it enjoyable to come here , and J , you know im here for ya

Sincere Thanks
 

This sight has LITERALLY changed MY life, and for that I am grateful. I ALWAYS try to do the right thing on here, NO MATTER WHAT. I have made wonderful friendships, and even been screwed over royally once, but have ALWAYS tried to treats others the way I would like to be treated, and forgiven those who don't know any better. I will pay ANY fee you guys ask of me. This place is well worth it. It's like having a whole family full of truck nuts. It doesn't get any better than that. Thank you ALL. Take care, Mike

In addition to that... a strike 3 and you're out...or even one major violation in the parts board gets you banned from parts maybe.
Just a thought.

That is a pretty good idea, Ive thought of something like that and am still unsure... But all ideas and methods are being thought of and discussed.



As of now anyone in violation of parts board violations gets the axe permanently, no matter how minor of a violation....

Ummmmmmmmm....could we get some more pictures of Jersey Girl on here? I will gladly pay my $25.00!

Oooooops! I bet that last post of mine was a violation!

Is now, bye bye for 24. anyone else like to join him? This is exactly what i was talking about in the above post, some people just lack basic RESPECT.

site it great, info is great, everything about this place is great esp. now that i actually have a truck to use the info/parts on.
kinda bums me out about the 25$ membership/parts posting cost (has it always been that way ?) i really dont have the extra money (another reason the truck is still in project mode) but ya gotta do what ya gotta do. ill have to figure out a way of staying on board.
thanks for everything josh
later
lance

The $25 is only posting for sale items, anyone can read and buy parts from the susbcribers.

If you currently have a for-sale add posted, once the $25 thing starts will your add be deleted, or how will that work?

I love this place my paypal payment sent!

Howdy;
I have not been on the board very long, but quickly found it to be my #1
resource for info on my '67 stepside project, and was more than happy to invest $25 to get my screen name in bold type, and kick in to help keep the lights on.
This would be a good time for all who can do so without undue hardship to "go bold", to pony up and help assure the board stays open for a subscription costing less than seven cents a day.
I have to think most here could manage that.
Thank you, Josh, for your effort. I,for one, appreciate it.
Humbly submitted,
cowboy33713

I must be oblivious. I've rarely noticed any inappropriate behavior here or any conflicts worth talking about. Perhaps I'm just not web board savvy enough to recognize what you're talking about. I also only frequent 5 or 6 forums.

So, I'll take your word, Josh, for any difficulties behind the scenes. Thanks for all you do. I've learned 100x more about 67-72 trucks here since registering. Well worth the subscription price since I save dough doing things myself using tips learned here.

Best board I've found, as well. :bowtie:

Since I found this place a few months ago I am literally on here everyday! My wife also hates it. I wasn't aware of the $25 contribution, but I have just made a Paypal payment. This place is a wealth of information that has helped me out on countless times in the short amount of time I've been a member. Keep up the good work Josh, and let me know if there's anything I can do to help. I will abide by any rules you make and support any decision you make.

Josh, I would just like to add my own few words here but I am VERY appreciative of the board and the work you do here. I can't even imagine some of the crap you put up with.

Each time a change is made to the board and it's a bit of a pain to figure out how to navigate it I stop and think:
This board belongs to you Josh and I am here as your guest. It would be more painful to not have the board at all. I have made several aquaintences (sp) here many of whom I like to call friends, many I may never have the chance to meet in person. That is a priceless commodity to me in this world which seems to change so often so fast. The information I have learned of these trucks has been worth many times over my $25 subsription a year.

Please don't get discouraged over a few people who seem to be so set in their ways and near sighted that bringing down a board such as this doesn't seem to bother them. I for one would be very displeased over even thinking of such a prospect. You have my utmost sincere thanks for the thankless job and task you do. Again, thank you sincerely for putting this board together and maintaining it. KEEP ON TRUCKIN'

How to pay the 25 bucks
 

Hey all I have been a member only about 1 week now and have been very happy. I would love to contribute to the cause 25 bucks is nothing! If someone could let me know which paypal acct. to pay it to I will knock it out come friday! (3 kids, bills and house gotta come first!) Thanks josh this place is great

I agree with the masses, it would be a real loss if this board ever shut down.

Simply saying 'thanks' and paying for a subscription hardly seems enough, if there's more to do let us know.

Perfect example...........How does a guy that has been around for 4 years make a comment like that? On a post about following the rules no less?

I agree with most of the above posters.........I am here everyday and would miss this place greatly if something were to happen to it.

Josh, you are absolutely right. Most of the complaints are from people who just jump in and dont "surf the site right". I think on of the biggest helps that any of us can do is try to show the newbies (and a few oldsters it seems) to find the correct places. The volume of traffic will go up in some of the slower boards if they are used properly.
So many guys admit (when called on it) that they double post or post in the wrong place.....that they are doing it for speed. Well, how about a little patience? This is a messege board not "instant help in real time"

Thanks again Josh, my subscription is coming soon.

Try here -> http://207.44.196.117/vboard/showthread.php3?t=139629 ;)

Thanks for the time and effort you put in here Josh. As for the subscription it's the best deal going. Where else can you get so much great info and meet so many people with a common interest. I have met some really cool people here, people I wouldn't have met any other way. For everyone who says they can't come up with $25, skip a meal out once and there you go.
When I first started reading this post my first thought was OH Crap he's gonna shut the whole thing down. I about had a flipping heart attack! Keep up the good work and do whatcha gotta do.

Josh, I think you're doing a great job. Do what ever you have to do in order to minimize your time spent on BS. To me, the expense of $25 for membership is a bargin.

Hi josh,When i get in better shape i will send you some funds for the site...Thanks,Erick Its been a bad last 2 months for me. ..Last week i only made 45 bucks...I put a motor in a truck,only charged him $600 installed..that included the 350 motor too..And all i got from him was this 81 shortbed 4x4 with no motor? Needs alot of work. I need to pay my bills and now need to part some trucks out to help..This site works for me...And i hope things get better for you... Thanks,Erick

What he said :agree: Thanks Josh this place is great.