What is the deal with "patina"?
 

We all know that "patina" is oxidation of non-ferrous metal, such as copper or brass. So why the link to these old trucks as rust? Just a cool name?

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it's a fad started by the magizines. A lot of people have always thought beaters were cool, and same with old school stuff, and rat rod stuff, and now, the latest craze is field rot/barn rot.
IMO, it's even more overused tan the term *rare* *mint* and *survivor*

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apparently... I guess its a glam name for the rat rod crowd. I dont get it

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patina=rust as to me saying, my income is challenging me for finishing my chevrolet build=I am BROKE, Too many bills!!

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rat rods don't need patina, and a patena'd car, isn't a rat rod.
however, they DO commonly go hand in hand.
I thought it was kinda interesting untill it spread like wildfire. i'm waiting for the socker moms to call the rust spot on there looser cruiser caravans patina. :rolleyes:

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It's easier for me to say than org.paint faded rusty ol' Iowa POS !! I will restore my truck someday but can't afford it right now !!! I think my truck is cool as is . I guess it makes me feel good that other people think its cool also . I don't care what they call it !!! Patina or POS I bet they have second thoughts about it when I stand on It !!!!:)

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I liked what Shane said in another thread, "Rust'' and " Patina'' is not the same.

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do only certain trucks (years, styles, location) do this
and does it actually rust thru.
I like it

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It is just a butchering of the english language. Words have meanings. Rust is iron or steel, and patina is nonferous. If we need a cool name then lets create a new one. Not butcher an existing one. One day we wont be able to talk to people out of our click, because they wont undersand the different meanings of the same words.IMO

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I agree, we shouldn't butcher the english language!:hm: ;)

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It's the entire automotive hobby, not just truck guys.

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I dont really care for rat rods but I do like beaters. Why go to the extreme to make something look like crap (tuna can tail lites & paint thinner can shifter consoles). I dont worry about using correct terms for certain types of vehicles & dont get all worked up if someone likes or doesnt like what I like or dont like. Ive seen enough bagged red short beds to appreciate my beat up old flat black long bed more & more every day. Its what makes the auto field great, if they all looked the same we would be very bored...

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liver spots be damned...
My grandparents have developed Patina :lol: :lol: :lol:

http://www.medical-definitions.net/i...iver_spots.jpg

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crap... that means I've developed it too. :( I am what I hate! :whine:

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ferrous beuler says what he said mons:new:

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I like the term Patina, but I'm not all ape about it trying to get one :) I'll take that over bling anyday tho

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I dated her in high school, haven't seen her since graduation!:lol:

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There are some people in the antique industry that like to see items in their original state. If you have an original 100 yr old piece of furniture, rifle, etc. and you refinish it, it diminishes the value tremendously.

The original paint, body panels, and interiors are desirable to some people. They want to see it in it's naturally aged state.

I guess it's like visiting your grandma and find out she was botoxed and had a facelift. Takes away from the "original" state or "patina"...

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Naturally aged is one thing. A rusty pile with body panels flapping in the wind is another.

I'm with some others, I don't mind beaters. I'd like to have one sometimes. But if your truck is a beater don't try to pass it off as a "patina" truck to try to make it sound better than it is. So what if its rusted. Drive it and enjoy it anyway.

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it's a yuppys justifacation for driving a rusty beater. it just sounds better than rust

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What's sad, is that there are "fully restored" (all metalwork done to perfection) trucks running around with "patina" PAINTED on them. Classic Trucks did a feature on two such trucks not too long ago...

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i dont think he was trying to figure out why people like these trucks the way they do, just trying to figure out why the work is being misused

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The only thing with a '' rusty '' ride is how bad? One that the rockers or bedsides is fallin' off is not '' rusty '' IMO. If its that bad,no offense if you own one. I consider 'em junk!!! At least fix the worse, some will tell how cool they are and laugh as you drive away!!!! New metal and primer is better than holes and dents.

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:( Now that to me is crazy... Sort of like those antique dealers that purposefully distress their stuff to make it look older...

I think that rather than "patina" there ought to be another word like "truck with rustina." Or this truck has been "rustined" for newer trucks that have been patina'ed or patined. :crazy:

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Patina isn't rust. If it is rusty, it's rusty. Patina is the worn finish of a painted vehicle...or the appearance of a worn finish. To achieve a patina finish, you have to look at the body and see where the paint would wear first. Edges of doors; peaks of body contours, etc. Excessive compounding of the paint will cause the primer to show through the paint.

Hot Rod Magazine did a feature a few years ago to create the look of a barn find on a glass-bodied coupe. They sprayed the body, in specific places, to imitate the wear patterns that would be common. The paint on the body was black. They sprayed some red oxide primer to look like wear in the finish. The added a pin stripe and then "massaged" it too, to look worn. The overall effect was of a paint job that was at least 50 years old and from a barn find of a car.

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Hey ChevLoRay, basically I hear what you're saying but I disagree that Patina isn't rust. Especially as defined by the dictionary.

American Heritage dictionary college edition.

Patina: A thin layer of corrosion, usually brown or green, that appears on copper or copper alloys, such as bronze, as a result of natural or artificial oxidation. 2. The sheen produced by age and use on any antique surface.

Granted it doesn't say rust. But rust is "oxidation."

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Yeah, and here's a good example of one of our trucks. This pic has been posted on here a lot already...


http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g7...r/RUSTY_67.jpg

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if we are gonna complain about the mis use of the word in it's self, what about how everyone tosses around the term restored on here.
old words get new meanings all the time.

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Fairly simple to understand as quoted above out of the American Heritage dictionary : 2. The sheen produced by age and use on ANY antique surface.

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hey 67 chevy redneck where is that truck from? it looks very similar to mine ,i have a 69 though. and by the wayi like patina,the last two trucks i had were both show quality vehicles one of them was in several mags. but i found when i drove them around i was always real nervous about someone hitting me or going somewhere and someone keying them. with a patina style vehicle you dont really have to worry that much.

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I didn't refer to a dictionary, so thanks for the info. Hot Rod magazine did the feature on producing a patina on a vehicle that couldn't possible have any rust (i.e. a fiberglass body). In their article, the intent was to introduce the look of a finish that had been compounded and waxed over the years, when it was actually a new paint job.

If a patina can include surface rust, I got patina. But in keeping with HRM's process, I got that covered, too. Only thing is, my patina is legit. Do any of those definitions include multi-colored primers in the big picture of a patina? I got that, too.

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I don't care who you are dat is phat YO

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I agree on '' restore '' Andy. To me it means return to orginal or stock condtion. I like the term ''build or built''. Broader range, restore isn't 18's and air bags or shaved and crated. I've corrected several on mine, not restorin' just tryin' to build her back!! LOL!!

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I agree that patina can be the tarnished surface of an antique, but I like the "Rustina" line [thank you 68gmsee] to describe a rusted truck. That works well with me.

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a beater is a beater, a turd is a turd.
Mine is both

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Heard a guy I worked with repeat a saying his dad had said...."If you chrome plate a turd, it's still a turd."

Gee, whoodathunkit?

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The famous line from John Carpenter's Christine:
"You can't polish a turd!" :metal:

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Click on #6;)
http://www.theofficialjohncarpenter..../chsclips.html

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67_C-30 that a cool linky :metal: I love the quotes. Cb :bowtie: