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1LowToy 11-28-2009 11:53 PM

What Lowering Spindle brand?
 
I've been looking for some lowering spindles for days now, reading several posts. I've read posts on problems I definately don't want, i.e. BellTech spindles with rally wheels or 15 inch wheels won't fit with more than about a 3" offset and or grinding off some of the brake caliper. And or possible scraping of the lowr control arms.

I had planned on some 15x8 ralley wheels, 2.5 or 3" drop spindle (What brand) and maybe a one coil cut or maybe heat and shrink the spring by the amount of a half coil cut. Keep in mind I have a L6 so the aftermarket lowering springs may be more spring than I already have.

Can we have a sound off of problems with the the various brands of spindles? Hope this starts enough of a product manufacture's interest in sponsering me some new spindles, but I don't think that will happen:lol:

DJM
Spring Tech
Western Suspension
BellTech
McCraughy's
Summit Brand

Or any other known brands

chance76 11-29-2009 01:23 AM

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We have put McGauphys on a few trucks and they fit great. Nice quality parts and a excellent design.

Tx Firefighter 11-29-2009 07:25 AM

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Early Classic sells a nice 2.5 spindle. I have always used the Belltech 3 inch spindle though. As long as you run a 7 inch rally wheel on the front they clear fine. Only the 8 inch rally gives interference issues.

78-5.3 11-29-2009 08:11 AM

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im running DJM 3" lowered spindles with 1 1/2 cut coils its the GEN3 engine so its at least 100 LB lighter the a stock small block im running stock 15" wheels

lolife99 11-29-2009 08:24 AM

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I always use Belltech spindles on the 73-87 trucks.
I would imagine there might be some minor trimming/grinding required with all brands of spindles.
Also,... you will need to "tweak" the brake hose fitting away from the upper ball joint.
These are normal issues for drop spindle installs.

1LowToy 11-29-2009 10:03 AM

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I see several with 15x8 rally wheels and other wheels. Now I'm wondering what problems they may have had. I'm thinking some models of spindles may set out further than others so the wheel is not contacting the control arms.

Hitting the parts boards and finding numerous 6 lug wheels and no spindles but that figures right? Hitting the Turlock Swap meet today, maybe I'll get lucky. Opps the wife is coming with me, I may not get anything, errrrr!:waah:

Wild83C10 11-29-2009 10:18 AM

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I had used western chassis 2.5" drop spindles with torq thrust 15x8 with no issues.

1LowToy 11-29-2009 10:56 AM

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That's kind of what I'm thinking. The 2.5 drop verses the 3.0 I could have a lot less issues to deal with. All Depending on the wheel off set of course. Another 0.5 " cam be made up with a spring or tire size. The Western web site kinda gives the same indication that their 2.5 drop does not have clearance problems that (quote) "some others do".

N2TRUX 11-29-2009 12:00 PM

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I feel you might regret not going with a 3" spindle. My philosophy is get as much drop as possible from the spindle because it has not affect on your ride.

Yes, you can gain the additional drop but cutting your spring, but why go through the trouble.

If you are dead set on running a 15x8 you "might" have to trim the lip on the A-arm. It's a simple job to do. If your concerned about the integrity of the control arm after trimming it's easy to add a boxing plate.

As you can see there are several ways of getting there. I just find that more spindle drop equates to a better ride.

flamingbig10 11-29-2009 01:45 PM

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I'm running 15x7 with 4.125 bs on djm 3" drop spindles and I don't have any problems with the lower control arms just the ear that holds on the brake caliper, took a little grinding, but there was no chance I was fitting aluminum wheels on it though

GMC Guy 11-29-2009 05:07 PM

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i used the 3 in. Bell Tech spindles with 15x8's, and i had a lot of clearance issues. the stance looks amazing, so i guess it was worth it.

1LowToy 11-29-2009 08:49 PM

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Well a little progress today. I found a fairly nice set of 15x8 ralley wheels with rings and caps. I think I could have done better in the price. So maybe in a few weeks of hussling I can afford more goodies. Yeah I'm on a budget and I don't think Santa is coming my way:waah: As for the flip kts I'm pretty sure it can be flipped with the axle pad carefullly cut off and remounted on the bottom of the axle. Looks like the rest is just bolt on upside down and fabricate some shock extentions (or not). A one coil cut on the front coils and I'm lowed. Maybe not as low as I'm going but I don't have tires for the new wheels yet either.

Tx Firefighter 11-29-2009 08:51 PM

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If you don't mind doing the work for the flip kit like you're describing, you can buy cheap axle saddles at Tractor Supply or any place that sells trailer parts for under 20 bucks. That saves you the hassle of trying to surgically remove the existing axle pads.

1LowToy 11-29-2009 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Tx Firefighter (Post 3645722)
If you don't mind doing the work for the flip kit like you're describing, you can buy cheap axle saddles at Tractor Supply or any place that sells trailer parts for under 20 bucks. That saves you the hassle of trying to surgically remove the existing axle pads.

That's my Man. That what I'm lookin for.

I did it the hard way on some concrete last week. The woman at OSH told me I was supposed to use water with the masonary blades. I replied but with an electric saw?? Then the brain clicked in. I put the masonary blade in my gas lawn edger. Sat back and had a :smoke: and :mm: and watched my Red Neck concrete cutter go at it for about an hour :lol:

1LowToy 12-03-2009 10:52 PM

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Like I mentioned in a previous post I found some 15x8 ralley wheels so I guess I'm going in that direction. It appears so far that they will work with the 2.5 drop spindles. GMC guy says the Bell Tech 3.0 has fitment problems. Can you give any details?

Any more input on brands and drop with the 15x8 ralley wheels?

I just hate spending money for more problems

GMC Guy 12-03-2009 11:04 PM

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i bought the 3 in spindles because i wanted to go as low as possible without having to sacrifice ride quality. all the issues with clearancing are on the lower a-arm. i had to grind down the "lip" on the a-arm, and have my tires re-balanced so the wheel weights wouldn't rub. i still have to take more off the a-arm because i can hear grinding if i turn the wheels all the way to the left. it's basically trial and error....kind of a PITA, but not impossible...

3r!c84 12-03-2009 11:19 PM

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ive got a bunch of room to the lowercontrolarm ? and i got 3in djm

GMC Guy 12-03-2009 11:25 PM

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hmm...do you have 15 inch wheels?

3r!c84 12-03-2009 11:42 PM

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yes 15x8 i can fit 3 fingers in there

1LowToy 12-03-2009 11:45 PM

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I think the question is back to you 3r1C84. What wheels do you have and what grinding on what if any? Let's keep in mind the 84 model may have 1.0" brake rotors?

westofb 12-03-2009 11:52 PM

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i bought a set of 2.5" lowering spindles from airbagit.com...called them and got a set from them shipped to my house for $179.00. The normal price was a little over $200 plus shipping, was able to get them at reduced price and shipped for nothing! I had no fitment issues with them, but am running Boss 20" wheels. I had an 84 with bell tech 3" spindles...with 15x8 ralleys, had to trim some off the rear lip of the lower control arm, it did not rub the wheels but was so close when I pulled out of the shop, it chucked all the wheel weights off the insides of the wheels...LOL. Did not have to grind them very much to clearance them for the weights to clear, maybe a 1/4" or so, drove it a couple years like that with no issues what so ever.

3r!c84 12-04-2009 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 1LowToy (Post 3654280)
I think the question is back to you 3r1C84. What wheels do you have and what grinding on what if any? Let's keep in mind the 84 model may have 1.0" brake rotors?

ive got stock truck rallys and i did have to grind off some above the caliper,but besides that good install

and yes it has 1.0 rotors

1LowToy 12-04-2009 10:42 AM

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I had an 84 with bell tech 3" spindles...with 15x8 ralleys, had to trim some off the rear lip of the lower control arm, it did not rub the wheels but was so close when I pulled out of the shop, it chucked all the wheel weights off the insides of the wheels...LOL. Did not have to grind them very much to clearance them for the weights to clear, maybe a 1/4" or so, drove it a couple years like that with no issues what so ever.[/QUOTE]

Was it at the ball joint where you had to grind off the lower contrroll arm? If so that may be caused by the spindle Mfg having machined the lower ball joint fitment too deep. I see others are whining about having to put a washer under the castle nut to fit the cotter pin in.

GMC Guy 12-04-2009 11:18 PM

Re: What Lowering Spindle brand?
 
Was it at the ball joint where you had to grind off the lower contrroll arm? If so that may be caused by the spindle Mfg having machined the lower ball joint fitment too deep. I see others are whining about having to put a washer under the castle nut to fit the cotter pin in.[/QUOTE]

i assumed the Bell Tech spindles were pretty high quality, the castle nut and cotter pin fit fine. but still had major clearance issues... oh well :waah:

1LowToy 12-05-2009 12:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GMC Guy (Post 3655924)
Was it at the ball joint where you had to grind off the lower contrroll arm? If so that may be caused by the spindle Mfg having machined the lower ball joint fitment too deep. I see others are whining about having to put a washer under the castle nut to fit the cotter pin in.

i assumed the Bell Tech spindles were pretty high quality, the castle nut and cotter pin fit fine. but still had major clearance issues... oh well :waah:[/QUOTE]

1LowToy 12-05-2009 12:12 AM

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Where exactly did you have a problem?
Lower control arm where?
Caliper clearance?
8" wheel?

3r!c84 12-05-2009 12:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GMC Guy (Post 3655924)
Was it at the ball joint where you had to grind off the lower contrroll arm? If so that may be caused by the spindle Mfg having machined the lower ball joint fitment too deep. I see others are whining about having to put a washer under the castle nut to fit the cotter pin in.

i assumed the Bell Tech spindles were pretty high quality, the castle nut and cotter pin fit fine. but still had major clearance issues... oh well :waah:[/QUOTE]

i can get two fingers in there.lots of room.here the pics

GMC Guy 12-05-2009 12:39 AM

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my problem wasn't so much with the wheels straight like you have them. cuz i can fit a finger or two between the control arm and the wheel as well. my main problem was when i turned the wheels all the way to one side or the other.

3r!c84 12-05-2009 12:51 AM

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oh i see what your talking about.i dont got that problem,lock to lock no problem

1LowToy 12-05-2009 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 3r!c84 (Post 3656122)
oh i see what your talking about.i dont got that problem,lock to lock no problem

So you eah have 15x8 wheels and the 2.5 has no problems and the 3.0" drop hats on full turns.... where exactly?

3r!c84 12-05-2009 01:01 AM

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i got 3.0 drop and they dont hit,lock2lock

SCOTI 12-05-2009 01:11 AM

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So you eah have 15x8 wheels and the 2.5 has no problems and the 3.0" drop hats on full turns.... where exactly?
15x8's are available in more than one specific back-spacing. Point being that just because it doesn't rub on one truck, there's no absolute garantee it won't rub on another unless everything is exactly the same (including BS-ing).

GMC Guy 12-05-2009 02:13 PM

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right. i wish i could afford new wheels with a larger backspacing to avoid this problem, but i had to make what i have work.

mongoose 12-05-2009 03:27 PM

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you want wheels with less back spacing. you should go out and buy like a 1/4 in spacer. it will move the wheel out some and should keep the wheel farther away from the a arms.

GMC Guy 12-05-2009 03:31 PM

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then i'd want to space out the rear wheels since they sit in more than the fronts. i've always wondered why GM did that :crazy:

mongoose 12-05-2009 03:39 PM

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better turn in =p

lowhoe 12-05-2009 03:53 PM

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i just bought a set of DJM 3" drop spindles from Summit. They had about the best price i found.

nlped 12-05-2009 08:38 PM

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2.5" McGaughy spindles with no mods and a 1" Bell Tech front drop spring with 1/2 a coil cut off. I don't have any issues with rubbing, touching, or anything else with a set of 8" Rallys.
AND...I bought them off of Ebay for less than $200 shipped ;)

3r!c84 12-05-2009 08:50 PM

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flip out back??? how many leafs do you got?

nlped 12-07-2009 03:45 PM

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^^^ I guess you meant me, right? I have 4 leafs in the rear.


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