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Crispyr1 12-01-2009 12:19 PM

Throwin a 305 and a 700r4 in my 68
 
What do ya'll think? Tried searching for it last night on the net and could find an opinion, so what better place.

My thought process:

Not looking for a lot of power just equal to better than what my 292 was putting out. Needing an overdrive for my 4:11's and want the manly feeling/sound of an 8 :sumo: LOL. oh yeah it was only 150 more for the motor and install, if put in with the tranny.

Please tell me what you think.

PowerPro 12-01-2009 12:25 PM

Re: Throwin a 305 and a 700r4 in my 68
 
If you're gettin it cheap, sounds great! I personally wouldn't have chosen a 305, but a V8 is definitely better than the I6, imo. If you have the option, though, I'd get a 350. If you're feelin froggy.... well, look at my sig. :lol:

krwyellowz28 12-01-2009 01:30 PM

Re: Throwin a 305 and a 700r4 in my 68
 
If you're going to the trouble of the V8 swap, I'd recommend going straight to the 350. You can pick one up for the same price, and you'll get better power, exhaust note, and a good platform for further building when the time comes. Look for a 350 from a 96-00 Silverado/Sierra with vortech heads... they run forever and are great on a budget. Have fun with the swap! :metal:

Clyde65 12-01-2009 03:46 PM

Re: Throwin a 305 and a 700r4 in my 68
 
I would do an LS install....better mileage/reliability etc. A nice 5.3 with a 4l60e trans with under 75K miles, you could get for under a grand$.

3r!c84 12-01-2009 04:10 PM

Re: Throwin a 305 and a 700r4 in my 68
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Clyde65 (Post 3649210)
I would do an LS install....better mileage/reliability etc. A nice 5.3 with a 4l60e trans with under 75K miles, you could get for under a grand$.

where are u shoping at ? 5.3 and a 4l60e is wayyy more then that used
more like 2000 if your lucky

Crispyr1 12-03-2009 12:54 AM

Re: Throwin a 305 and a 700r4 in my 68
 
well i'm in TN and i've been looking around and couldn't find a 350 or an LS that i wouldn't have to rebuild. And the Rebuild, seeing i dont honestly have the knowledge to do myself, doesn't really fit into my budget, and isn't practical for me right now. I really don't know if i could've found a more reliable source for 150 bucks.

krwyellowz28 12-03-2009 01:02 AM

Re: Throwin a 305 and a 700r4 in my 68
 
Price, availability, and skill level are all very good arguments for the 305. Either way, you're goin with a V8. :metal:

Ron 586 12-03-2009 01:03 AM

Re: Throwin a 305 and a 700r4 in my 68
 
Get it done. Yes a 350 is nice but a properly tuned 305 will get good mileage and with those gears should have plenty of go. Good luck with your truck. When you get it together cruise up and say hey. We love company. :exit:

krwyellowz28 12-03-2009 01:04 AM

Re: Throwin a 305 and a 700r4 in my 68
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 3r!c84 (Post 3649251)
where are u shoping at ? 5.3 and a 4l60e is wayyy more then that used
more like 2000 if your lucky

A local salvage yard has an '04 2wd Silvy 5.3/4L60e combo takeout that includes EVERYTHING needed for a swap with 72k miles on it for $800, and they can barely give away the 5.3's w/o accessories.

Crispyr1 12-03-2009 10:53 AM

Re: Throwin a 305 and a 700r4 in my 68
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron 586 (Post 3652560)
Get it done. Yes a 350 is nice but a properly tuned 305 will get good mileage and with those gears should have plenty of go. Good luck with your truck. When you get it together cruise up and say hey. We love company. :exit:

LOL i will! Do we have any meets anywhere around here?

piecesparts 12-03-2009 12:15 PM

Re: Throwin a 305 and a 700r4 in my 68
 
Locally in our Kansas area. 5.3s with auto trannys are around $1500 with the computer inclided.

Jim_PA 12-03-2009 01:13 PM

Re: Throwin a 305 and a 700r4 in my 68
 
A 292 is a better engine than a 305.

305's are good for making ricers look fast.

Seriously... don't do it.... either go 327/350+, or stick with the 292. At least a 292 is cool :)

Jim_PA 12-03-2009 01:18 PM

Re: Throwin a 305 and a 700r4 in my 68
 
Seriously....

stock 305 220HP/200tq.
stock 292 215HP/215tq.

I bet the 292 has a better curve too.

Crispyr1 12-03-2009 01:37 PM

Re: Throwin a 305 and a 700r4 in my 68
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim_PA (Post 3653163)
Seriously....

stock 305 220HP/200tq.
stock 292 215HP/215tq.

I bet the 292 has a better curve too.

WOW that really isnt a diff! if the 292 and the 305 isn't that much diff in hp and tq why didn't they just keep to the 292 since it was out first?

Jim_PA 12-03-2009 01:58 PM

Re: Throwin a 305 and a 700r4 in my 68
 
I guess people thought v8 was all the rage. They never stopped making inlines (OK, there may be a gap...) but all the way into the 80's (and even today...) they still make inlines.

Crispyr1 12-03-2009 02:02 PM

Re: Throwin a 305 and a 700r4 in my 68
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim_PA (Post 3653227)
I guess people thought v8 was all the rage. They never stopped making inlines (OK, there may be a gap...) but all the way into the 80's (and even today...) they still make inlines.

what's the advantages of the 305 over the I6? I know the I6 is a more efficient motor... right? Sorry don't really know much about motors. thx for the enlightenment!

Jim_PA 12-03-2009 02:28 PM

Re: Throwin a 305 and a 700r4 in my 68
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crispyr1 (Post 3653234)
what's the advantages of the 305 over the I6? I know the I6 is a more efficient motor... right? Sorry don't really know much about motors. thx for the enlightenment!

Absolutely none that I am aware of, unless you don't have enough room for an inline :lol:

krwyellowz28 12-03-2009 02:51 PM

Re: Throwin a 305 and a 700r4 in my 68
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crispyr1 (Post 3653234)
what's the advantages of the 305 over the I6? I know the I6 is a more efficient motor... right? Sorry don't really know much about motors. thx for the enlightenment!

exhaust note... which would be a good enough reason for me :devil:

Jim_PA 12-03-2009 03:20 PM

Re: Throwin a 305 and a 700r4 in my 68
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by krwyellowz28 (Post 3653294)
exhaust note... which would be a good enough reason for me :devil:

on a stock 305 :lol::lol::lol:

krwyellowz28 12-03-2009 03:40 PM

Re: Throwin a 305 and a 700r4 in my 68
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim_PA (Post 3653342)
on a stock 305 :lol::lol::lol:

I've owned/been around too many TBI, Vortech, TPI, and LSx vehicles to mention, and one of the best sounding STOCK engines was my '91 Silverado with TBI 305, Flotech shorty headers with glasspacks and 4"x24" SS slash cut tips. It was by no means fast, but man it sure sounded nice. Hell, any V8 will sound better than a V6. :sumo:

piecesparts 12-03-2009 04:41 PM

Re: Throwin a 305 and a 700r4 in my 68
 
I vote for a 350 over a 305. A better power curve and overall performance capabilities.

Crispyr1 12-03-2009 06:28 PM

Re: Throwin a 305 and a 700r4 in my 68
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by piecesparts (Post 3653485)
I vote for a 350 over a 305. A better power curve and overall performance capabilities.

Thx man, but i don't have the money for a 350 or a rebuild.

capev86 12-03-2009 06:51 PM

Re: Throwin a 305 and a 700r4 in my 68
 
i'd stick with the big boy 292 and hop it up a bit (they have 4 barrel manifolds for these) but if you need a new engine anyway, a 305 would make a great stepping stone. my dad replaced the tired 350 in his 72 burb back in the 80's with a 305 out of a '77 monte carlo. he installed a camaro oil pump, an rv grind cam and rebuilt the stock 4 barrel as well as upgraded the ignition to electronic (hei). we used it to pull our 71 holiday 6,000 lb camper all over the place.

i'd prefer a 305 to the 307 in my 72 burb because it has the longer stroke from the 350, just small pistons which make for a more efficient power plant. i'd love to do a stroker kit in a 305 and work the cyl heads for better flow. but i have my bad boy 406sbc to go in my truck. i have a 3/4 ton with the 4.57 rear gear (i have the 3rd member to swap to a 4.10) so i feel your pain on fuel economy as my best on a tank has been 11.1mpg. i want to add the (rare) factory OD unit to the saginaw 3 on the tree eventually and that with the softer rear gear should get me in the 16-18mpg range. right now the truck screams on the highway and even around town it has too much rpm, even with that puny 307.

we still have that old holiday camper and i will be hauling it around everywhere with my burb next summer!!

truckdude239 12-03-2009 07:26 PM

Re: Throwin a 305 and a 700r4 in my 68
 
i have a 305 in mine stock expec tit has been bored 30 over and it seem to have decent power

ChiefThinElk 12-03-2009 08:03 PM

Re: Throwin a 305 and a 700r4 in my 68
 
What are your thoughts/experience on a 283?

capev86 12-03-2009 09:01 PM

Re: Throwin a 305 and a 700r4 in my 68
 
unless it is a vintage, numbers matching corvette from the 50's, i'd rather have the 292. even shorter stroke than the 307/327....basically a v8 honda!

Crispyr1 12-03-2009 11:31 PM

Re: Throwin a 305 and a 700r4 in my 68
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by capev86 (Post 3653690)
i'd stick with the big boy 292 and hop it up a bit (they have 4 barrel manifolds for these) but if you need a new engine anyway, a 305 would make a great stepping stone. my dad replaced the tired 350 in his 72 burb back in the 80's with a 305 out of a '77 monte carlo. he installed a camaro oil pump, an rv grind cam and rebuilt the stock 4 barrel as well as upgraded the ignition to electronic (hei). we used it to pull our 71 holiday 6,000 lb camper all over the place.

i'd prefer a 305 to the 307 in my 72 burb because it has the longer stroke from the 350, just small pistons which make for a more efficient power plant. i'd love to do a stroker kit in a 305 and work the cyl heads for better flow. but i have my bad boy 406sbc to go in my truck. i have a 3/4 ton with the 4.57 rear gear (i have the 3rd member to swap to a 4.10) so i feel your pain on fuel economy as my best on a tank has been 11.1mpg. i want to add the (rare) factory OD unit to the saginaw 3 on the tree eventually and that with the softer rear gear should get me in the 16-18mpg range. right now the truck screams on the highway and even around town it has too much rpm, even with that puny 307.

we still have that old holiday camper and i will be hauling it around everywhere with my burb next summer!!

man i would love to get the 350 that everyone talked about but i've already committed to the 305 but you sure do make it sound good! Now i gotta find out what i'm gonna do to the 305 while i'm savin up for the 350, as it may take a while, if that makes any sense.

c-tenkid 12-04-2009 12:01 AM

Re: Throwin a 305 and a 700r4 in my 68
 
About 3 years ago a freind of mine told me he had a 350 he would sell me for 100 bucks.I said sure bring it over.He brought it over and the motor didn't have heads.I said that's no 350 that's a 305.I got out the calipers and measured.Sure enough 305.

I gave him the money anyway because I knew he needed it.I took that shortblock he sold me.Put a set of ported 461 double humps,458 lift lunati cam,Performer RPM a set of headers and a 1406 carb.

Another buddy has a stock 76 454 powered 3/4 ton 2wd truck.We raced and I ate him alive.With my 305..I took that stuff of the 305 and sat the short block in the corner of the garage.I built a vortec headed 350 that I blew up after to many 7000 rpm shifts.I took the 305 stuck a set of 283 power pac heads and a stock 4 barrel intake.I drive the truck everyday.It sounds great and has plenty of power.I shift it at 6000 rpm and it feels great.And it gets pretty good fuel mileage as well.Dang thing gets a third gear scratch with a 3 on the tree!

Why not keep a straight 6?The parts are cheap and plenty of them around for a sbc.You list stock power #'s for the engine's.Who cares about that.The sbc is gonna win.Who cares if it's a 305?

Jim_PA 12-04-2009 08:59 AM

Re: Throwin a 305 and a 700r4 in my 68
 
Well, contrary to the popular opinion, unless your 292 is dead, I think you are wasting time, money and effort swapping to a 305.

You will spend more than you think on the swap, and it's all for little benefit.

Save the cash for a 350 or 383 / LS swap, whatever.

Crispyr1 03-09-2010 11:34 AM

Re: Throwin a 305 and a 700r4 in my 68
 
Well have had the 305 and the 700 behind it for about 2 months now and i'm lovin the auto and slightly bigger motor! Thanks guys for all of the advice!


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