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ambryatim 06-25-2010 11:38 AM

67-72 Trailing arm suspension in 1957 Truck
 
Hello all, Ok I have searched and came up with a few results, but none that would answer my question.
Has anyone installed the rear suspension from a 67-72 onto there truck???
I was wondering about this, seeing how it has a lot more potential than the ol' leaf springs and will be cheaper to do than a four-link "if" I can find a donor vehicle. I am sure I would have to trim down the crossmember to fit in between my frame rails, but I am thinking very hard about doing this. So, any info or input would be great.

dwcsr 06-25-2010 03:10 PM

Re: 67-72 Trailing arm suspension in 1957 Truck
 
If your going to that large a conversion why not just do a 72 frame swap and get the disc brakes and IFS along with the truck arms. Its a great ride on truck arms but not much on load handling.

Junkbike 06-25-2010 04:05 PM

Re: 67-72 Trailing arm suspension in 1957 Truck
 
is this what your talking about? it is going in a 47-53 frame

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...100/popeye.jpg

ambryatim 06-25-2010 04:12 PM

Re: 67-72 Trailing arm suspension in 1957 Truck
 
Yes, it is!!! Have you measured to see how much of the crossmember will need to be removed?? I know it will be diffrent for my application, but this is what I am talking about. Are you going to weld the seams on the arms up to make them more ridige???


Quote:

Originally Posted by Junkbike (Post 4048084)
is this what your talking about? it is going in a 47-53 frame

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...100/popeye.jpg


ambryatim 06-25-2010 04:14 PM

Re: 67-72 Trailing arm suspension in 1957 Truck
 
I already have my frame clipped with a subframe out of a 78 Trans AM. If I was just starting out I might do that, but then I would have to relocate the cab mounts etc...With this I should "in theroy" be able to drill holes and bolt it to my existing frame with some reinforcements of course.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwcsr (Post 4048011)
If your going to that large a conversion why not just do a 72 frame swap and get the disc brakes and IFS along with the truck arms. Its a great ride on truck arms but not much on load handling.


Junkbike 06-25-2010 05:46 PM

Re: 67-72 Trailing arm suspension in 1957 Truck
 
Its not mine, he has the build thread here.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/g...ussionid=10029

LEEVON 06-26-2010 10:06 AM

Re: 67-72 Trailing arm suspension in 1957 Truck
 
Here's the other build thread from this site, same stuff maybe some better pics here.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=383265&page=4

It couldn't have been any easier really, basically I just chopped off the ends of the crossmember and welded to some channels that fit in the frame. I just clamped it to the frame where I wanted my wheel c/l and scibed top and bottom, then cut and weld to the channel. You could also box the inside of the frame and weld to that. My frame rails are tapered, yours are straight making even easier. Are you planning on using stock springs or bags? If you can get the rear shock mounts those can be used too. I can take some measurements if you need, I also have a '71 swb for reference.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1275/...dacb9fec_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4007/...556903e1b5.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4046/...cc7272e93c.jpg

Junkbike 06-26-2010 04:49 PM

Re: 67-72 Trailing arm suspension in 1957 Truck
 
Hey! there is Leevon now))

ambryatim 06-28-2010 08:53 AM

Re: 67-72 Trailing arm suspension in 1957 Truck
 
LEEVON,
Thanks for the info. I plan on using the stock springs for now. Bags are somewhere in the future. Question....what are the little angeled pieces for?? I am not sure what they would be called, but are they a brace or something??

LEEVON 06-28-2010 10:19 AM

Re: 67-72 Trailing arm suspension in 1957 Truck
 
If you're talking about the rusty pieces I placed where the springs/bags would go those are just the bed brackets I took off the old frame and set there to see if they would be a good mount for the bags.

ambryatim 06-28-2010 12:04 PM

Re: 67-72 Trailing arm suspension in 1957 Truck
 
Mmmm, no I dont think so, they are in the picture (last pic) with all the suspension parts. They are the only parts that are angled/curved.

LEEVON 06-28-2010 12:58 PM

Re: 67-72 Trailing arm suspension in 1957 Truck
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ambryatim (Post 4062790)
Mmmm, no I dont think so, they are in the picture (last pic) with all the suspension parts. They are the only parts that are angled/curved.

Oooh, those are the shock mounts they fit under the rear trailing arm. They look different than the ones on my '71 but serve the same purpose. I discovered that you can also swap sides and use them forward or aft.

If you want to keep it real simple have Nathan Porter (porterbuilt) make a crossmember for you and bolt everything up. I was going this route but cheaped out and made my own.

ambryatim 06-28-2010 01:13 PM

Re: 67-72 Trailing arm suspension in 1957 Truck
 
Ok, thanks for the cross member info. I might cheap out too...but, I will give it a look.
Where are you going to mount your Pan Hard Bar?? Foward or aft of the Diff??

LEEVON 06-28-2010 04:53 PM

Re: 67-72 Trailing arm suspension in 1957 Truck
 
aft, there's not enough room forward. I thought about it though. I might run the shock outside the frame rails (big maybe).

ambryatim 06-29-2010 12:43 PM

Re: 67-72 Trailing arm suspension in 1957 Truck
 
LEEVON....
Can you do me a favor??? No rush, but could you measure the width of your frame on the 71'SWB. Just wanting to get an idea of how much might need to be removed from the crossmember, if I decide to go that route. Thanks

ambryatim 06-30-2010 05:12 PM

Re: 67-72 Trailing arm suspension in 1957 Truck
 
Does anyone know if the length of the trailing arms are the same for the SWB and LWB trucks???

chevy_mike 06-30-2010 06:02 PM

Re: 67-72 Trailing arm suspension in 1957 Truck
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ambryatim (Post 4067085)
Does anyone know if the length of the trailing arms are the same for the SWB and LWB trucks???

Yes, same arms. Crossmember is just located differently.

LEEVON 06-30-2010 10:40 PM

Re: 67-72 Trailing arm suspension in 1957 Truck
 
Sorry it took me so long, the stock crossmember on my '71 is 33.5".

ambryatim 07-01-2010 10:04 AM

Re: 67-72 Trailing arm suspension in 1957 Truck
 
Ok, thanks. I just found a donor, hoping the guy will let me come pull everything I need this weekend. Oh, I also just remembered that the beds on a 55-66 were all interchangeable. Soooooo....the crossmember should go between the frame rails with no modification, key word "should"...seeing how they are both the same ladder frame design. We will see.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEEVON (Post 4067615)
Sorry it took me so long, the stock crossmember on my '71 is 33.5".


LEEVON 07-01-2010 04:08 PM

Re: 67-72 Trailing arm suspension in 1957 Truck
 
One caveat, the frame rails on my truck aren't as deep as the later rails. I had to taper the bottom of the crossmember up about 1/2". Look at the pic where you see the channel on the end and you can sort of see the bottom angled up. I can measure the depth of the '71 frame rails too if you need.

Good luck on the donor stuff, I got mine off Craigslist, had a ton of calls after posting a WTB ad. I really hope this works out for you, trailing arms are great suspensions.

ambryatim 07-01-2010 04:43 PM

Re: 67-72 Trailing arm suspension in 1957 Truck
 
Thanks Leevon.

If you would measure the height of the frame itself that would be AWESOME!!! If I remember correctly it is around 6"-7" high. "I think" If so, then it should just slide in between them.

I found this one on Craigs List too. But, its still on the truck. It is a 66 long bed. Never thought about putting a want ad out. I will have to do that if this deal falls thru. I will have to post some pics when I start the install. I am looking foward to the ride. :)

LEEVON 07-01-2010 11:16 PM

Re: 67-72 Trailing arm suspension in 1957 Truck
 
The '71 frame rails are 6" deep (inside-to-inside).

ambryatim 07-02-2010 12:44 PM

Re: 67-72 Trailing arm suspension in 1957 Truck
 
Thanks....Now I am just waiting on a phone call to see if he is going to sell just the suspension out from under the ol' truck.

Have a good 4th!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEEVON (Post 4069283)
The '71 frame rails are 6" deep (inside-to-inside).


ambryatim 07-04-2010 03:01 PM

Re: 67-72 Trailing arm suspension in 1957 Truck
 
Just noticed that you installed your own exhaust "tunnels" or cut-outs. LOL!! Shows how observant I am. Nice work, I will have to do that mod too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEEVON (Post 4059815)
Here's the other build thread from this site, same stuff maybe some better pics here.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=383265&page=4

It couldn't have been any easier really, basically I just chopped off the ends of the crossmember and welded to some channels that fit in the frame. I just clamped it to the frame where I wanted my wheel c/l and scibed top and bottom, then cut and weld to the channel. You could also box the inside of the frame and weld to that. My frame rails are tapered, yours are straight making even easier. Are you planning on using stock springs or bags? If you can get the rear shock mounts those can be used too. I can take some measurements if you need, I also have a '71 swb for reference.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4007/...556903e1b5.jpg


ambryatim 07-06-2010 01:13 PM

Re: 67-72 Trailing arm suspension in 1957 Truck
 
Leevon....is there a possibility of you being able to find out at what angle the mounts on the crossmember are at??? And how far apart they are?? I am thinking of just building my own crossmember and building my own arms from this write up.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=321100

LEEVON 07-08-2010 12:47 AM

Re: 67-72 Trailing arm suspension in 1957 Truck
 
Of course, no problem, but I won't be home until next Sunday.

ambryatim 07-08-2010 04:58 PM

Re: 67-72 Trailing arm suspension in 1957 Truck
 
Ok, that is fine.

ambryatim 07-20-2010 04:32 PM

Re: 67-72 Trailing arm suspension in 1957 Truck
 
Can someone link or point me in the direction of where to find the axle mount pads that go on the axle tube for 1967-1972 trucks with the truck arm suspension??? Or will the regular 3" pads work??

Thanks

Edit: I found what I was looking for here. It is listed at Early Classic Enterprise as an axle saddle.

izonme13 08-22-2010 10:39 PM

Re: 67-72 Trailing arm suspension in 1957 Truck
 
ok so I just picked up a 67 chevy rear trailing arm suspension to put in my 56 chevy. my questions are, can the front crossmember be flipped upside down? thinking that would help when lowering the suspension. what about a coilover setup, is there a bolt in idea and what weight springs would be needed? Im wanting to change the panhard bar since Im using a 77 chevy p/u 12 bolt and not sure how to mount it to the rearend. also wondering about airbagging it. pros and cons of this and last question is about a rear swaybar. anyone have suggestions on how to mount it? Thanks Robert

Lextech 08-23-2010 10:30 PM

Re: 67-72 Trailing arm suspension in 1957 Truck
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by izonme13 (Post 4152474)
Can the front crossmember be flipped upside down? thinking that would help when lowering the suspension.

I have never messed with a truck arm suspension but, I would imagine upside down and backward is what you would try out.

Jeff

hotrodsbyray 09-30-2010 03:55 PM

Re: 67-72 Trailing arm suspension in 1957 Truck
 
Any updates or new photos?

a5Ben 10-01-2010 08:57 AM

Re: 67-72 Trailing arm suspension in 1957 Truck
 
I'm thinking about putting this suspension on my S10 frame as part of my swap. Does anyone have info on whether on not it would work? I've googled but haven't came up with much....

Ben

LEEVON 10-01-2010 11:36 AM

Re: 67-72 Trailing arm suspension in 1957 Truck
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by a5Ben (Post 4219313)
I'm thinking about putting this suspension on my S10 frame as part of my swap. Does anyone have info on whether on not it would work? I've googled but haven't came up with much....

Ben

I can almost guarantee that this would be unique and you won't find any info, however hit up the s-10 sites. Most likely the will have "3-link" or such as custom set-ups. It's just a matter of fabbing a crossmember though, if you have it all in front of you just scratch your head awhile, break out the cut-off wheel, grinder and welder and it's done.


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