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ol_skool_chevy 10-11-2010 10:28 PM

1964-66 chevy Power steering
 
I'm sure theres already been a thread here some place but I have not seen it yet so I'm asking:
Has anyone here done a Power steering conversion on the 1964-66 trucks?
What did you use to do it?
How did you like who it turned out??

Sixxer 10-12-2010 12:24 AM

Re: 1964-66 chevy Power steering
 
I did it to my 64 inline 6... To put it simply. BEST MODIFICATION TO DATE. I love it! I used the CPP kit, original chevy power steering pump brackets, old style chevy pump, O'reilly auto replacement pressure hoses and a rebuilt steering box. The worse part about the hole thing... the CPP kit... The parts quality is meh and several of the fasteners where the wrong length, thread, size or all three. I'm lucky I had a shop on hand with all that kind of stuff in reach or I would have been screwed. BUT there are other options... I highly recommend getting in touch with LILRED66 on here, his name is Tony. He is a avid restoration expert on these trucks and makes a power steering kit that is much more complete. I've seen the kit first hand and realized I made a big mistake buying the "name brand"

DPowers 10-12-2010 09:35 PM

Re: 1964-66 chevy Power steering
 
CaptainFab also makes the plate.
Good Info here:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=381321

and here:
http://www.persh.org/pickup/steering.htm

Captainfab 10-13-2010 12:45 AM

Re: 1964-66 chevy Power steering
 
Thanks DPowers :)

A power steering conversion is definitely worth the effort. The parts are readily available and it is easily done in a weekend. The only exception is if you have a 292 I6. The power steering pump brackets for those are extremely hard to find and $$$$$ when you do find one. Let me know if you're interested in a steering box plate, or anything else that I offer. Links are in my signature line.

ol Curt 10-13-2010 12:07 PM

Re: 1964-66 chevy Power steering
 
Do you have any pics of your brackets? I made some work on mine...but am unsure if they are correct.

bubba327 10-13-2010 10:20 PM

Re: 1964-66 chevy Power steering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ol_skool_chevy (Post 4236177)
I'm sure theres already been a thread here some place but I have not seen it yet so I'm asking:
Has anyone here done a Power steering conversion on the 1964-66 trucks?
What did you use to do it?
How did you like who it turned out??

I put a 71 front crossmember in my 64, and used a Captainfab PS bracket . Worked out really well and aligned up perfectly.
Details and pictures are in my build thread "Bubba's recyling project" 60-66 build section.
I am very pleased with the way it turned out, and it drives wonderfull.
Recommending you put the disc brakes on also , you will not regret it.
Captainfab makes a quality product and it is easily installed to use the newer style 70s gearbox.
PS> find a sway bar off a mid 70s truck- It improves the cornering tremendously and takes away the "push" and "roll".

irish1966 10-15-2010 04:13 PM

Re: 1964-66 chevy Power steering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ol_skool_chevy (Post 4236177)
I'm sure theres already been a thread here some place but I have not seen it yet so I'm asking:
Has anyone here done a Power steering conversion on the 1964-66 trucks?
What did you use to do it?
How did you like who it turned out??

Power steering???? Bleh!!! U just need to learn how to drive that truck. I never had a problem. :lol:

Laz 10-15-2010 05:20 PM

Re: 1964-66 chevy Power steering
 
My '66 is currently using a, shall we say "rigged," power steering setup. It works, but it's not pretty and it leaks. When we go through and rebuild the truck properly (soon) we will be using the front pieces/parts and such off of a newer model truck so that things work a bit better.

bubba327 10-15-2010 07:48 PM

Re: 1964-66 chevy Power steering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by irish1966 (Post 4242419)
Power steering???? Bleh!!! U just need to learn how to drive that truck. I never had a problem. :lol:

The 64 truck is my 16 year old daughters "dream car" that we built together and it is her daily driver for a 25 mile round trip to school.
I consider power steering is a modern option well worth considering in a street rod. I consider power disc brakes a requirement.
Safety should always come first.

prototype1 02-05-2011 06:08 PM

Re: 1964-66 chevy Power steering
 
If I was to use a power steering gear box off of a 87 model truck, will i have to use all of the steering components off of the same year truck?

gabe2000 02-05-2011 06:31 PM

Re: 1964-66 chevy Power steering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Captainfab (Post 4238284)
Thanks DPowers :)

A power steering conversion is definitely worth the effort. The parts are readily available and it is easily done in a weekend. The only exception is if you have a 292 I6. The power steering pump brackets for those are extremely hard to find and $$$$$ when you do find one. Let me know if you're interested in a steering box plate, or anything else that I offer. Links are in my signature line.



Can you sent me a PM and explain what's a PM. I really need to order the adpator plate for my 64. All the steering system is from 87. thx

padresag 02-05-2011 06:38 PM

Re: 1964-66 chevy Power steering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gabe2000 (Post 4464854)
Can you sent me a PM and explain what's a PM. I really need to order the adpator plate for my 64. All the steering system is from 87. thx

pm stands for private message. just click on their name in the top left corner of their thread and a box will drop down and you should see where to go from there
ron

TR65 02-05-2011 11:01 PM

Re: 1964-66 chevy Power steering
 
Here is some more info ol skool,

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=374519

TR

Captainfab 02-05-2011 11:49 PM

Re: 1964-66 chevy Power steering
 
In my opinion it is easier that way. If you don't have the complete '87 steering linkage, you can use your original without much problem. If you're converting to front disc brakes, you will likely need a special adapter type adjusting sleeve for the tie rods. There was a member that not llong ago mentioned that he may have founf outer tie rods that would eliminate the need for the adapter sleeve, but I haven't heard a comfirmation on that. I typically just convert to the later model steering linkage. Even though you will have to drill holes for the newer idler arm, it is still simpler IMO.


Quote:

Originally Posted by prototype1 (Post 4464803)
If I was to use a power steering gear box off of a 87 model truck, will i have to use all of the steering components off of the same year truck?


Captainfab 02-05-2011 11:56 PM

Re: 1964-66 chevy Power steering
 
I sent you a PM.

Up in the top right hand corner where your user name shows up, including the last time you visited this site, it says 'Private Messages' Click on that and it will take you to your inbox. If you would rather place an order via email, my email address is captainfab454@hotmail.com

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabe2000 (Post 4464854)
Can you sent me a PM and explain what's a PM. I really need to order the adpator plate for my 64. All the steering system is from 87. thx


Born Lucky 02-06-2011 06:43 AM

Re: 1964-66 chevy Power steering
 
O. K. I have a 292 I6 so what are the options?
Does someone have a photo of one? Do they make aftermarket options?

Heater63 02-06-2011 11:45 AM

Re: 1964-66 chevy Power steering
 
Lucky, if you can fab some, there is an option to the original factory brackets and pump. Its what a lot of street rodders do, and it's my plan on my 292. Use a later generation GM Type II pump with remote reservoir! You may have to fab some for a mounting bracket, but you can mount the pump down low below the alternator.
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Born Lucky 02-06-2011 12:23 PM

Re: 1964-66 chevy Power steering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Heater63 (Post 4466493)
Lucky, if you can fab some, there is an option to the original factory brackets and pump. Its what a lot of street rodders do, and it's my plan on my 292. Use a later generation GM Type II pump with remote reservoir! You may have to fab some for a mounting bracket, but you can mount the pump down low below the alternator.
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Any photos or drawings?

Rickey-Lee 01-28-2014 03:40 AM

Re: 1964-66 chevy Power steering
 
I have already installed front disc brakes with drop spindles, how exactly does that affect the power steering installation?

65 C20 01-28-2014 01:11 PM

Re: 1964-66 chevy Power steering
 
Rickey-Lee.
The 2 different installs won't affect one another.
However now you have the best of both worlds.
Easy steering for the parking lots and easy breaking for when that kid pulls out infront of you.
Cal.

CustomCab66 09-22-2014 05:36 PM

Re: 1964-66 chevy Power steering
 
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I will be completing the conversion on my 66 pretty soon. I rounded up my donor parts that were pulled from an 82 1/2 ton ( steering box and pump/w hoses) that have been sitting in the shed for three years. I have no idea how the pump mounts but I think I'm missing a bracket for the backside of the pump. This pic shows the same front bracket but for the life of me I cant locate any rear brackets. The pump does have the stud sticking out of the back of the pump. Looks like I need to hit up a salvage yard......

PM me for any info on this bracket and what year it came off of

ol_skool_chevy 09-22-2014 05:58 PM

Re: 1964-66 chevy Power steering
 
this is an old thread but you can u any of the brackets from a 68-mid 80's truck with SBC

Captainfab 09-22-2014 11:55 PM

Re: 1964-66 chevy Power steering
 
The long water pumps weren't used until '69 in the cars and '73 in the trucks. I would look for a truck application for the PS pump brackets.

LostMy65 11-30-2014 12:36 AM

Re: 1964-66 chevy Power steering
 
Is this a long or short waterpump?
Is it the long or short waterpump that is needed for mounting a power steering pump?
http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/...pss8puomwy.jpg

66 C10 383 11-30-2014 02:24 AM

Re: 1964-66 chevy Power steering
 
That would be a long water pump.

http://www.chevytech.com/2c41o2.html

You can use either style as long as all the pulleys and brackets are the same. Just make sure the pump, pulleys, and brackets match. The long pump setup would be easier to find in a salvage yard since they were all long pumps since 1969.

Tip - a short water pump hugs close to the timing cover where a long pump will have some space between the pump and timing cover.

schpeen 11-30-2014 02:47 AM

Re: 1964-66 chevy Power steering
 
Best mod yet but I upgraded to the Quick ratio steering box and I love it.

LostMy65 11-30-2014 05:00 PM

Re: 1964-66 chevy Power steering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 66 C10 383 (Post 6938625)
That would be a long water pump.

http://www.chevytech.com/2c41o2.html

You can use either style as long as all the pulleys and brackets are the same. Just make sure the pump, pulleys, and brackets match. The long pump setup would be easier to find in a salvage yard since they were all long pumps since 1969.

Tip - a short water pump hugs close to the timing cover where a long pump will have some space between the pump and timing cover.

.
Thank you.
That helps a lot.
I've been trying to do all upgrades with the 73-87 parts.

66 C10 383 11-30-2014 11:16 PM

Re: 1964-66 chevy Power steering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LostMy65 (Post 6939173)
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Thank you.
That helps a lot.
I've been trying to do all upgrades with the 73-87 parts.

On another note, I think it has been said that 81 was the year that the steering box and pump fittings went to metric. Previous was different and won't interchange without hose adapters. As long as you get everything from the same truck, all will be the same.

gnd efcs 12-01-2014 12:07 AM

Re: 1964-66 chevy Power steering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by schpeen (Post 6938638)
Best mod yet but I upgraded to the Quick ratio steering box and I love it.

What kinda of box did u get ? 12-1 ? where u get it ? I am going sport touring style with my truck !

65chevysub 12-01-2014 12:32 AM

Re: 1964-66 chevy Power steering
 
I had a complete 72 chevy P/U setup put on my 65 Suburban in 1999. Works great, and glad I did it.The only thing I need is a new P/S pulley as mine is wobbly.

Captainfab 12-01-2014 01:35 AM

Re: 1964-66 chevy Power steering
 
There are a couple different styles of long water pump PS pump brackets depending on whether the mounting boss below the lower bolt on the drivers side is threaded or is a smooth bore hole.

ray_mcavoy 12-01-2014 09:51 PM

Re: 1964-66 chevy Power steering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Captainfab (Post 6939898)
There are a couple different styles of long water pump PS pump brackets depending on whether the mounting boss below the lower bolt on the drivers side is threaded or is a smooth bore hole.

I agree ... and here are a couple of diagrams to illustrate the two styles:

The long water pump with an un-threaded boss uses brackets that look like this:
They're typically found in 1969 - 1976 Chevy cars (except Corvette) and 1973 - 1976 trucks.
Note that the "cradle" bracket that hangs off the water pump looks somewhat similar to the ones used with short water pumps but it's not the same.
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps07e68267.jpg




The long water pump with a threaded boss uses brackets that look like this:
They're typically found in Chevy cars and trucks from 1977 up into the 80's.
Note the difference in the support bracket & spacer for A/C vs. non-A/C applications.
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w...psa3690073.jpg


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