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Well...let's see if I can get this build done before someone offers me something I can't refuse for this thing...lol. That seems to be the norm as of late.
Picked this unit up from a buddy for a decent deal, and finally got a chance to drag her home the other night. She needs some serious TLC such as panels, floor pans etc. She is not going to be restored or any show truck, this will be my weekend warrior/trail rig/plow truck all in one to justify having yet ANOTHER toy in the arsenault....lmao. It is a 1990 K5 (obviously), with a 6.2L diesel, automatic, and fully loaded. She will be getting stripped of her axles and put in my D60/D70 combination I have here, or maybe slap in my 14FF...have to see. Have a set of 35" grapplers here for now just to get her going, will be doing a 52" spring swap, and gutting her of some of the un needed items. Have a good set of fenders off of my burban I am gutting/stripping right now as well. Starter bolts are snapped off, and had the Tcase rebuilt not long ago. Interior is in pretty good shape, but definetly needs a good cleaning. Someone had a antenna on the roof and never plugged the hole, so I am assuming that is why the floors are toast. But they are reasonably flat so I think it just might get cut out and replaced with some diamond plate or something. Also have some 16x8 wheels that are getting drilled out for monster valves. Will get a cage of some sort along with some stingers etc....might even eventually exoskeleton the rig. I have my mandrel bender here so might as well use it for it's purpose...lol. ..anyways, this I guess is the start of my build and will keep updated as I go. Never owned a K5 before but have owned many MANY GM truck projects in the past. So any useful advise on the K5s is welcome and so forth. Have a look at the pics and let me know what you think... http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s.../037Medium.jpg http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s.../033Medium.jpg http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s.../028Medium.jpg http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s.../025Medium.jpg http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s.../027Medium.jpg http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s.../022Medium.jpg |
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It's got a "little" rust, but looks like it can be saved. Lets see a progress report.
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Not much progress as of right now, working on my 59 Impala dash conversion on my 89 crew cab right now. But did manage to get it off the trailer last night...lol.
Still have a few parts to collect as well....52" front swap brackets, new front shackles, rear shackle flip, starter bolts, etc. Will update as parts/time allows. |
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Holy smokes, man! Are there ANY cars over 15 years old in the great white north that don't have rust holes in 'em?
Ought to make a great trail rig, though...any water that gets in can drain right back out! |
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And yes they do exist here and there....my 89 crew cab project is 99% rust free with 130,000km and my 98 SAS project has no rust on factory sheetmetal and 130,000km as well. Depends alot on how they are treated. My 96 Tahoe has just shy of 400,000km and only has one small area starting to discolor a small bit. ...gets hard to find decent old rigs/vehicles around for projects. Damn salt they put on the icy roads kills alot of them. |
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Come on down to the desert, we have plenty so bring a hauler!
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I'd love to....If I had the time and resources, I'd bring a flat deck and a semi I'd bring back a crap load of them, among other things.
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Well, got the suburban out of the shop...and dragged the K5 in. Got it up on stands and had a look at these starter bolts. Needless to say I would like to track down the moron (previous owner) who "attempted" to drill out the bolts. At least he gave up on the first one....ughh. First one the "idiot" didn't drill straight and got off to the side...he didn't wreck anything TOO badly but try to drill a straight hole where there is a crooked one....good lord! Got it somewhat straight with minimal damage to the upper threads, but the ones near the outside of the hole are hurtin'.
Sooo....my dilema is and would have been regardless of past owners mechanical abilities is that I want to try to drill them out to 1/2" NC, then tap them accorndingly, then drill out starter housing, and put in some grade 8 bolts, and make a better bracket for the front of the starter for support. Anyone tried this in the past? They seem to be hard on bolts and appearantly the bolts don't fit tight in the holes anymore and there is play in the housing where the bolts go as well. I personally think this would help if there were some tighter tolerances to get rid of any side to side movement/play. Might as well rectify the issue while I'm at it. I don't think the cast should be that hard to tap. ..or hell, maybe even put studs in instead. |
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I've seen a few folks use studs. Last resort, weld the studs in place.
Makes it a pain to swap starters, but it can be done. My buddy tells me starters are on their way out. New stuff will shoot a blast of fuel in a couple of cylinders and fire it off. Only obstacle right now is being able to inject directly into the cylinder, but there are a few direct injection gasoline engines in production, shouldn't be too long now. |
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Ok....well, made some progress over the past few days. Decided to drill out and tap the block to 7/16 NC, and put in some grade 5 bolts with a bit of locktite, and some lock washers. Tightened up the front bracket and seems to have worked pretty well. And I am happy to say that with a bit of coaxing, she's ALIVE! Running/driving up and down my lane a few times. Tossed in some SeaFoam to the crankcase and in the fuel tank for a bit, ran it for a while and will let sit and repeat a few times before I dump the oil again. Runs pretty smooth too....Trans seems to be excellent as well.
Did run into an issue with the back window though. The steel channel on the bottom of the window was rotten and the glass came out of it....no longer useable (channel that is, glass is fine). Anyone know if you can buy just that piece? This one is also electric to cable operated....window mech. wants to go down, but not up? Worked at first but now not. Tried a different handle/switch, same thing, and tried a different motor, still same thing only one way. Tried from the dash mount....same thing. I'm thinking it has to be a bad wire in the gate possibly? Just a guess at this point though. Took the whole gate apart and cleaning up the mechanisms etc to get things running clean and free again once I figure out what to do about this glass. I really hope I don't have to buy a whole new window just for that..... |
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LMC has the channel for the rear window. I got one but when I recieved it it was twisted up big time. I took pix and called customer support, I e-mailed the support tech the pix while I was on the phone and that day they sent a replacement out to me. It actually is pretty good, no complaints from me
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Shackle flip brackets removed, blasted and painte ready for install....front brackets for the 56" spring swap done as well (springs were 56's, not 52's like I originally thought). Stripped one pack of springs apart, removed the overload, ground them down, couple coats of chassis paint...just gotta get some new plastic pads from somewhere. Differential (D60) stripped down, cleaned up and painted with a couple coats of chassis paint.
Also fabed up a skid plate and weled it to the front differential cover. Nothing spectacular, but will be better than nothing at this point on the factory cover. Turned out alright. Gears/guts look mint, no issues what so ever. Someone even put in some new gear oil by the looks of it...nice and clean. ...anyone have a set of zero rates kicking around they want to sell? Also looking for a 1420 yoke for the 60 as well....long shot I know, but gotta ask. Going to need a set for the front spring swap to bring the differential back an inch.....it will move forward 2 inches. Might just have to order a set when I order my crossover steering. |
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Front sheetmetal that I raped from the parts burban, nowhere near mint, but once I'm done cutting and welding them it ain't going to matter anyways....
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s.../107Medium.jpg Front spring hangers for the 56's, and the shackle flip brackets for the back. Might have to consider putting in some 63s out back if I could find a set on the cheap. http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s.../101Medium.jpg 56" springs blown apart, ground down, couple coats of chassis paint, new center pins, squeek pads, and then new bushings on Friday. Then they will be getting swapped into the front of the K5 along with some longer shackles I have to fab up yet. http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s.../096Medium.jpg Made up a front diff cover with some plated areas....nothing crazy but will help a bit regardless for now. http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s.../099Medium.jpg http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s.../098Medium.jpg D60 ground down, and painted http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s.../097Medium.jpg |
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Change of plans a bit I think. I think the 56's are going to go on the rear, then rebuild the rears (52's) for the front. Just makes more sense for now. If I need more flex I'll link the biatch!
Got the factory front out (***** of a job), got some useless crap taken off/cleaned up off the frame, factory 1 ton 47s up front for now to get her rolling till the 52's come out. Taking out the upper bushing assemblies to rebushing them with some neoprene kits I picked up on the cheap. Antisieze doused onto the bolts this time so I can get them out at a later date. Getting ready to order up a crossover steering kit (unless someones got one to sell), and some new bushings with greasable bolts for the other spring pack and the front eyes for the 56's. New cables for the batteries, new batteries themselves, and front bumper off. (good excuse to get the bender mounted to the floor in the shop) Also took the factory hangers that I am using for the shackle flip and moved the frame bracket upward 3" to make up the other 1.5" of lift that the othere hanger kits give. Gives alot clearer shot of the nut on the backside now instead of it just filling up with dirt and screwing the bolt. And found some shackles from ORD that I had laying around/left over from the SAS project a few years back. They are only 5" long, but are way stronger and still longer than the stockers by an inch or so. Will work for now I'm sure. http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...0036Medium.jpg http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...0032Medium.jpg http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s.../054Medium.jpg http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s.../051Medium.jpg http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s.../057Medium.jpg |
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Managed to get some things done today, stretched and sectioned the drivers side front fender and get it 80% completed. Finally went and got some .025 wire/tips today about 3/4 of the way through it....MUCH better...wish I had of done that from the start.
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your fender mod turned out great!
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Love the work on the fenders man, looking great! Keep the pics coming!!!
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http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s.../002Medium.jpg http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s.../007Medium.jpg Playin around with some paint ideas. I think I am going to grind down the area with flames, leave grind marks, clear coat or let rust that area, then mask and hit the rest with spray on box liner, then paint. http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s.../004Medium.jpg http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s.../010Medium.jpg Removed the rocker panels and trimmed things up for a set of rock rails I'll make out of some square tubing, and weld to the body and factory side mounts. http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s.../006Medium.jpg Also trimmed out the back, bumper will come to just the bottom side of the panel, and will weld back on the bottom of the factory quarter. http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s.../005Medium.jpghttp://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s.../003Medium.jpg Got the rear differential out, cleaned up the frame, removed the **** load of crap off the frame, and added a couple coats of chassis paint. Drilled the holes for the shackle flip kit, and should have them mounted in a couple days. |
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At full weight, minus fuel tank...and spare tire/bumper. Should be close to the right angle I hope. Ended up putting the 56's in the back for now, moved the rear shackle bracket back 2", and removed 2 leaves and overload from the 8 pack. http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...0035Medium.jpg Full axle droop, 7" of drop. http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...2354Medium.jpg front fenders getting close to being....close enuf! http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...2354Medium.jpg http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...54Medium-1.jpg nabbed a manual rear window/gate assembly, and a decent fuel tank. http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...2348Medium.jpg http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...2349Medium.jpg http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...2351Medium.jpg repaired the passenger side floor area, floor brace, etc. Was fairly rough, but came out ok considering I used some fairly heavy gauge steel. Drilled out the holes for the seat, and welded on some new nuts. Will start on the drivers side tomorrow. Not nearly as bad, but still will need some TLC. |
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Made some progress lately, now just waiting on some brake lines, leaf spring bushings from ORD, and some light force lights I picked up dirt cheap today!
Had to move it out of the shop for a couple days as I have to work on my little guys new bed I am building for him. Been putting it off for a couple months and now that he is in a "big boys bed"...I guess the matress on the floor is not cutting it...lol. Bed is going to be killer when it's done though.. http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...1254Medium.jpg http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...1254Medium.jpg http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...1255Medium.jpg |
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Been a while, but some progress made non the less. Had a huge running issue for the past few months and took a break from it before I lit a match under it. :devil:
Long story short: Swapped out tank for the undamaged one, and only had it running in short time periods for the most part of the last few months here and there. Everything seemed to be good.....had around a quarter tank of fuel and I also had 2 other saddle tanks that were mostly full from a 1 ton dually diesel I stripped. So I took the fuel from them and obviously filled up the K5. At this point I decided to run some seafoam in the tank to get things running a bit better/efficient. This is where things went to hell.... The truck would start chugging, water in fuel light would come on, and if you panned it to the floor you would only get around 2000rpm out of it at best. Let off and she would die. Let sit for a bit and once it fired up again it would idle fine on it's own for a short period then chug, then die. This went on for a while....figured...bad fuel right? So, after leaving it alone for a couple months now I decided to either fix it or pitch it. Got some fuel in a jerry can, hooked it up at the frame rail/electric pump and fired it up. Ran great...perfect I thought....bad fuel. Sucks...but fixable. Then realized it went through $13.00 in fuel in 10 minutes. WTF!!! After debating the issue at hand for an hour or so, figured out that the fuel return was still on the tank.....was just putting the extra fuel back into the "crappy fuel". Failing to mention that I tried the fuel additives as well prior to this to rectify the assumed water in fuel issue. So at this point it was decided to drop the "FULL TANK" of fuel..."uggh". And so it would be....dropped the tank, emptied it out into 5 gal pails and dumped it into my parts burban tank in the yard/truck. Reinstalled tank, bough new fuel, attempted to bleed lines....killed batteries trying to start. :devil: Walked away for the night.... Put the charger on trickle for the whole night/day, then when I returned from work on Monday tried to start again. Cranked and cranked and cranked.....nothing. Again WTF???? Walked around the truck to see if there were any wet lines, leaks etc and just so happened to notice when I looked between the frame rail and the body at the tank....the fuel line I had replaced with all new stuff was appearantly to long and was kinkded off. Bent the steel line back a bit and straightened out the line, the electric pump picked up rpm and I opened the bleeder/filter. Fuel bled out faster than it ever did, closed it off and attempted a start again. Vaaaroooooomm, clackity clackity clack....."are you F'ing kidding me?" I had no choice but to start laughing. At this point what else can you do. One simple little oversight causes sooooo much bull**** it's crazy. So, long story short...lol......thought my little mishap may create a fix for someone else that may be put into the same situation as myself and hopefully not cause them as much greif. |
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On a positive note....
Picked up an old crew cab dually the other day for a parts truck on my crew cab shortbox dually build....and had a nearly mint dash pad in it. For the condition of the parts truck, can't believe the dash pad was still good. Must have been the 4" of dust/dirt on it that saved it. Scuffed it down with 80g and a DA sander, hit it with bed liner (aerosol), then with some olive drab green paint. Seems to have worked out pretty well. Will paint up the door panels etc the same way I think. Easy to clean/maintain and durable/looks decent for a daily/trail rig/plow truck. http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...07Medium-1.jpg http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...08Medium-1.jpg http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s.../013Medium.jpg http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s.../015Medium.jpg |
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Congrats on getting it fixed. Love your dash idea, I may borrow that one.
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Wow that's crazy can't believe you had that problem and it turned into such a damn nightmare. Glad you got it figured out. Looks good so far keep up the good work and keep on plugging away bit by bit it will be done in no time :metal:
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Looks like a fun build, Love the SAS project by the way. Your back window not wanting to go up but works in the down position sounds like the tailgate side latches. They make sure the window only goes up when the gate is fully closed. Either fix the switch or jump it out and enjoy the luxury of a power tailgate window. If you notice the window only goes up 3/4 the way and stops its because the tailgate is pushed in and the window motor is catching on the metal glass channel keeping it from passing. It will go down but will catch on that part and not go all the way up. Simple fix is to sit inside the truck with your feet on the top of the gate and pull the inner structure back out with your hands. I recommend wearing gloves for this.
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Nice build! Love the fender work!
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The starter bolts usually break off on the 6.x because the PO left off the starter to block brace. The big heavy or little gear reduction Delco starters use size specific braces. GM still stocked the little starter brace last year. Junk yards are your only source for the older big starter braces.
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ya, put the bracket back on when I upgraded the bolts. Hope it will last a while now.
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Got a few parts in the other day finally. Steering box brace from ORD, zero rates, front hubs to convert back to SRW, front lift springs, one rear quarter panel, and a whack of other msc crap. Hope to get her back into the shop as soon as I can take a break from the CCSB project.
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Cool truck! I respect your fab skills, I like it. question- what brand bed liner did you use on that dash? it looks close to factory, and that is the look im after.
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Thanks.
Believe it or not I just used the aerosol (dominion sure seal) kind. It leaves a nice even fine texture IMO. |
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Thanks for the response, I like the look! I see a project coming up for me
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Hoping to get back to this thing in the next few days and piece some more of it together. Been sitting for some time now and need to switch up projects for a bit.
Anyone know how to tell for sure that if I need a harmonic balancer or not? Hear that you should change them out regardless but maybe this one has been done already. If the rubber is good I assume it should be fine? Or is there some other sort of obvious tell tale? Also going to have to do some research on the upkeep and maintenance of the 6.2L....diesel is a whole new world to me, and want her to run best she can as I might start driving her daily back and forth to work. |
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Well, trying to get back on the trail rig project. Been off it for quite some time. Will be a few days before I can get back to it again, but did manage to make some progress in the last couple.
Installed the frame/steering box brace from ORD, nice little piece....hoping it saves the frame over time. http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...2134Medium.jpg http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...2134Medium.jpg SRW hubs and 4" springs.....probably still going to opt for the 52"ers in the front, but the deal was right. http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...1003Medium.jpg http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...20807-2228.jpg http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...807-2000-1.jpg Mounted up one quarter panel (thanks Jay), raised it 1.5" same as the front, was going to stretch the rear quarters as well (like the front) but found that the inner wheel wells would have needed to be enlarged or use a set of trailer fenders.....would just be getting to in depth for the gain at this point in the project. So I decided to just raise them and that was it. Have to many other things on the "to do" list on this thing to start adding more. http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...20807-2223.jpg http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...20807-2223.jpg http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...807-2223-1.jpg http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...20807-2224.jpg Also got the one front inner fender partially mounted, will take some massaging from a BFH in the daytime when the wife isn't sleeping 12' above me..... ;kk Want to get the front hubs swapped out, track down a 14 bolt ff with some 4.10's in it and just swap out the one I have as I am pretty sure they are 3.73s but not yet confirmed. Then start looking at finishing up the rock rails, front bumper, rear bumper, piece back the interior, bleed the brakes, replace the oil cooler lines, thermostat, coolant, etc etc etc. And of course pick up another rear quarter panel to finish off the large portion of the sheetmetal work. |
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SRW front hubs blasted, painted, and reassembled/installed today. Everything went good other than realizing that the DRW rotors are slightly different in such that the stud holes are a few sizes smaller. Not a huge deal, just had to drill them out to be able to put the studs back in again.
Also got one inner fender installed with some help from a good torch, BFH, and some swearing. Looks good though, was kind of worried how they were going to work out with the front fender mods. Measured the truck compared to my stock crew cab 4x4...and the K5 is only sitting 5" above stock at the doors with the 35's on. Thus meaning that it is only sitting with a 3" lift (approx) right now. Front is going to have to come up another inch with the spring swap and zero rates at least..but glad it is still sitting fairly low. Hoping to stuff some 38's on it at a later date. Will post up some more pics in a day or so when more progress is made. |
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Man you have sure brought that thing a long way in a short amount of time. It is looking damn good. To be honest that is a rig I'd have passed right over because of the rust, it looks like you will make a good one out of her yet.
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At the start of yesterday.....
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