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1tonchevy 04-27-2011 09:06 AM

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So as some of you know i have been looking for a 6.2 Diesel for my truck. a guy contacted me and we chatted about the 6.2 he has in a K30 dump truck (trucks toast he said) originaly he said 1300 for the whole truck than later on in the convo he said 1500 if he cuts the frame just before the cab.

I'm not sure if this is the route to go. i can go to the bone yard and pick up a otor and everything (if it's still there) for fairly cheap and rebuild it my self but this guy swears it's been well maintained and well cared for and only has 140 xxx KM on it.

What would you guys do?

baclay9 04-27-2011 09:38 AM

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I think $1300 or $1500 for a 6.2 with 140,000 is insanity. No matter how good it is running.
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1tonchevy 04-27-2011 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by baclay9 (Post 4649106)
I think $1300 or $1500 for a 6.2 with 140,000 is insanity. No matter how good it is running.
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ok so i wasnt crazy. what would be the ideal price range?

baclay9 04-27-2011 09:42 AM

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I just saw that you said 140,000 KM, so about 87000 miles. I still think that is too much. Maybe $500. It is just not that popular of a motor. At least around here. Most people swap them for a gas engine straight away.
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1tonchevy 04-27-2011 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by baclay9 (Post 4649115)
I just saw that you said 140,000 KM, so about 87000 miles. I still think that is too much. Maybe $500. It is just not that popular of a motor. At least around here. Most people swap them for a gas engine straight away.
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ok i'll keep looking. plus it's a 5 hour drive to go get it.

jitteryguy 04-27-2011 10:04 AM

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not sure bout the price, but a donor truck would be a good chioce so you can get all the little thing's that go with it. left battery tray and fuel filter assy. come to mind, but there will more .
can you hear or drive this one befor he cut's it up ?

D13 04-27-2011 10:16 AM

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Donor is needed for all the little stuff (like fue lfilter/lines/dual batttery trays/fuel senders etc). I personally would not even attempt this swap without having a complete truck with the correct type of trans (manual or auto) to pilfer parts from. $1500-2500 buys a complete running driveable truck with a 6.2 here in MI. 80, 000 mile motor $600 tops, they pull it with all accessories and fuel set up, and I have to be able to drive it first. Unless you can drop the pan and inspect for cracks in the block, view it as a $150 core engine (unless it's a 1992-3). Check out detroit Craygslizt and you'll be suprized what you can find.

Don't want you to not get one, but almost nothing interchanges to SBC, and you need to understand that most of what you know about tuning a motor doesn't work on them.
I drove to work this morning in my 87 1/2 ton 6.2 auto. It's taken me about a year and $2000 to get it running 'okay'. That's beyond purchase price of the truck.

1tonchevy 04-27-2011 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jitteryguy (Post 4649141)
not sure bout the price, but a donor truck would be a good chioce so you can get all the little thing's that go with it. left battery tray and fuel filter assy. come to mind, but there will more .
can you hear or drive this one befor he cut's it up ?

yeah he wont cut it up till i go see it.but i think it's a bit rich i ean i can get soe of my money back for the frane and front end stuff i don't use but it seems more practical to get thw whole thing take all i need and scrap the rest because a dump box and such wold be quite heavy no?

1tonchevy 04-27-2011 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by D13 (Post 4649153)
Donor is needed for all the little stuff (like fue lfilter/lines/dual batttery trays/fuel senders etc). I personally would not even attempt this swap without having a complete truck with the correct type of trans (manual or auto) to pilfer parts from. $1500-2500 buys a complete running driveable truck with a 6.2 here in MI. 80, 000 mile motor $600 tops, they pull it with all accessories and fuel set up, and I have to be able to drive it first. Unless you can drop the pan and inspect for cracks in the block, view it as a $150 core engine (unless it's a 1992-3). Check out detroit Craygslizt and you'll be suprized what you can find.

Don't want you to not get one, but almost nothing interchanges to SBC, and you need to understand that most of what you know about tuning a motor doesn't work on them.
I drove to work this morning in my 87 1/2 ton 6.2 auto. It's taken me about a year and $2000 to get it running 'okay'. That's beyond purchase price of the truck.

I'm not worried about getting it running as my good friend is a Diesel Tech by trade i just don't want to bother him with the swap i just want to call him and get him to come over and help if it's just not quite right. what do you mean nothing is interchangable?

lindstromjd 04-27-2011 11:52 AM

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The accessories from a SBC don't mount up right on a diesel engine. Alternator can interchange, but you have to use the diesel spacer mount. A/C pump needs a diesel specific mount. Power steering needs a specific mount. So basically all the stuff will work, but you have to find the diesel style mounts. I think 1300 for a 6.2 is ridiculous, too. I paid 600 for mine, and it's a J code with 90k miles on it.

GmtGmt 04-27-2011 01:02 PM

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$1300 for a complete truck yes but for a front cut of the frame is no go

tucsonjwt 04-27-2011 01:10 PM

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Buy a decent 6.2L diesel truck and sell yours - IMHO.

1tonchevy 04-27-2011 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tucsonjwt (Post 4649386)
Buy a decent 6.2L diesel truck and sell yours - IMHO.

Got way too much into my truck and i'll never find a 2wd 4 door, dually,an i just put all my drop stuff on mine. i get what our saying but not worth it really.

plus nothing like that exsists in canada. CC duallys are rare.

lindstromjd 04-27-2011 02:04 PM

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I just found a complete 6.2 on CL here in Florida (it's actually in lower Alabama though) that the guy is selling for 600 o.b.o. for the whole thing, accessories included. That's pretty much the exact right price range that I'd be willing to go for. Otherwise... you could always try the government liquidation website. Don't know exactly how it works because I've never used the site myself other than looking, but I know you can get brand new crate 6.2's with 0 miles on them for less than $1000.

Adams74Chevy 04-27-2011 02:25 PM

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found this on CL: http://baltimore.craigslist.org/pts/2335448610.html

lindstromjd 04-27-2011 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Adams74Chevy (Post 4649502)

That is one helluva good deal.

Adams74Chevy 04-27-2011 02:30 PM

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I thought so... if I didn't have so many projects/to do's going on I'd seriously consider that for my k20.

kevinr1970 04-27-2011 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Adams74Chevy (Post 4649502)

I can't get to CL here at work, but there has been a '89-91 2wd CC dually with a 6.2 for sale locally (around Seattle, WA) for a few months.
I want to say it is a '91 as I kept thinking that it would have the 4l80 tranny in it.
Also, I haven't seen this truck, but those years should be rust free around here unless they grew-up someplace else.
I think the price was $2400; with the CAD being above the USD now, that should be like $500 CAD..., right??

I would think pulling the drop parts off your current truck and installing on a new truck would be far less work that doing a complete swap over to diesel, with less headaches.

GmtGmt 04-27-2011 03:49 PM

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swaping the smallblock to the 6.2 engine would be just as easy to remove the complete drop kit and install it on another truck or making a shortbed into a longbed.

your doing the same thing when you converting from carb to TBI or LSX swaps
so if you want TBI or an ls motor in you old truck go get a new truck? too much work??

is it because people are just lazy or just have something agains this model engine?

canadian 4x4 04-27-2011 04:54 PM

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if its a K30 for 1300 take the whole truck scrap it and you could sell the d60 and matching 14ff for 1300 up here. plus the dump box might be able to get 500 out of it if the hoist and everything is somewhat decent. I would say if you want the 6.2 you would still be making money on this deal other than the 5 hours of driving or more if that's one way

1tonchevy 04-27-2011 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GmtGmt (Post 4649613)
swaping the smallblock to the 6.2 engine would be just as easy to remove the complete drop kit and install it on another truck or making a shortbed into a longbed.

your doing the same thing when you converting from carb to TBI or LSX swaps
so if you want TBI or an ls motor in you old truck go get a new truck? too much work??

is it because people are just lazy or just have something agains this model engine?

I agree plus

I don't feel like buying,plateing,saftey,insuring etc when i can just swap in the motor and just pertend it never happened.

1tonchevy 04-27-2011 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by canadian 4x4 (Post 4649694)
if its a K30 for 1300 take the whole truck scrap it and you could sell the d60 and matching 14ff for 1300 up here. plus the dump box might be able to get 500 out of it if the hoist and everything is somewhat decent. I would say if you want the 6.2 you would still be making money on this deal other than the 5 hours of driving or more if that's one way

i'm not 100% sure it's a K i just think thats what he said. it was late and i was medicated lol.

GmtGmt 04-27-2011 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 1tonchevy (Post 4649728)
I agree plus

I don't feel like buying,plateing,saftey,insuring etc when i can just swap in the motor and just pertend it never happened.

a weekend your up and running again get that K30 complete as you will then have the high output 6.2 145HP with J-code heads, intake, pump and injectors

sell the parts of it and score all the parts for a turbo conversion 200hp and 20mpg :devil:

lindstromjd 04-28-2011 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by GmtGmt (Post 4649613)
swaping the smallblock to the 6.2 engine would be just as easy to remove the complete drop kit and install it on another truck or making a shortbed into a longbed.

your doing the same thing when you converting from carb to TBI or LSX swaps
so if you want TBI or an ls motor in you old truck go get a new truck? too much work??

is it because people are just lazy or just have something agains this model engine?

Lol... extremely well said. :metal:

I actually think the engine swap would be easier than anything else. I had my SBC out, and the 6.2 in and turning over in a single day. And I did it on my own. No help from friends, no extra set of hands. It took me a few days to figure out the not-starting issue on the diesel, but after I worked everything out, I've had no problems with it since then.

motornut 04-28-2011 10:18 AM

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still reading but found this
thought i'd seen an ad looking for a dump box...can't find it
http://ottawa.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehic...AdIdZ277466836

http://ottawa.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehic...AdIdZ251079319

http://ottawa.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehic...AdIdZ210662413
http://ottawa.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehic...AdIdZ274844424
he's got lotsa military stuff too stuff check other ads

http://ottawa.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehic...AdIdZ273679105

1tonchevy 05-02-2011 08:23 AM

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So this is getting Discouraging fast. found another one.... but heres the catch

It's in a blazer and is running and can be seen and heard BUT i have to take the blazer all the way home 3-4 hour drive.pull the motor AND take the blazer back. for $1000 man these ppl think these motors are gold!

GmtGmt 05-02-2011 11:19 AM

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too much for complete running engine pay no more then $800 thats removed and ready to drop in

1tonchevy 05-02-2011 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by GmtGmt (Post 4657814)
too much for complete running engine pay no more then $800 thats removed and ready to drop in

Thats what i was thinking. Now if the guy will take $100 bucks and i take all i need PLUS the 700R an pull out the motor and trans than it's a lil more wrth my time but i dout he will be game.

lindstromjd 05-05-2011 10:14 PM

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If you could get the diesel 700r4 along with the engine, then I think $1000 is a pretty reasonable price. Diesel 700's are a little different than gas ones, and the linkage is ridiculously hard to come by. I just paid a guy 300 for a 2wd 700r4 for my 6.2, and I had to go pull it myself. But I got the torque converter with it, and the TV linkage and bracket. So I got away with everything I wanted, and we were both happy with the deal. But $1000 for just a 6.2 is over-priced. Hell, for that much money, I'd SHIP you one of my spare engines.

D13 05-06-2011 05:59 AM

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Diesel 700 have different governer, TC, and may have slightly different TCC lock up wiring (because of no ECM). Basic trans is the same. Preferred solution is K case trans w/ diesel wiring and governer.

I'm absolutely not trying to discourage you to make this swap. I've got 2 spare motors to build for a future swap project (my 87 is getting pretty tired). Having lived thru my personal diesel issues last year, I'm trying to make sure you have what you need to be successful. It is NOT as easy as swapping SBC's, where any part is available in a nearby store or jyard. having all the parts to do the swap is key to a hassle free swap, and the best way is a complete donor. For example, the 700 uses a TPS on the IP and the TH400 uses a vacuum valve. The 700 uses a diesel only TV cable, bracket, and link rod, and the last 2 are available only in a jyard. it takes dual batteries and the cables are unique. The starter, WP, and PS are unique. Got a vacuum pump? Motor mounts (rubbers) are different. etc.

On the other side I get 22MPG in my 87 6.2 half ton. Pretty hard to beat.

spudz 05-06-2011 10:05 AM

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I sold my 6.2 out of my 84 for $100 and the buyer pulled it...

canadian 4x4 05-09-2011 08:31 PM

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found this only $450 already pulled
http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehi...AdIdZ280360976

1tonchevy 05-09-2011 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by canadian 4x4 (Post 4671425)
found this only $450 already pulled
http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehi...AdIdZ280360976

Just got off the phone with him. pulled 4 years ago sitting in a garage comes with,Motor,Interior and extiror harness, Trans (700R)*how hard would it be to put it in my truck?*, steering colum,

No Fly wheel,Starter,Rad,Batt tray or batt harness.


$400 Out the door...

mooseknuckles 05-09-2011 10:15 PM

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seems like a good deal?

madcow75 05-09-2011 10:16 PM

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Seen that one a while ago. Seemed a little fishy to me. Had a couple of them all had the same km's on them, also they seemed like high km's. You need rad, batteries, battery trays, motor stands, oil cooler to install . Also tranny. I am hooking mine up to a sm465/np205. One day I wil get a nv4500 when I can find one.

1tonchevy 05-09-2011 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by madcow75 (Post 4671682)
Seen that one a while ago. Seemed a little fishy to me. Had a couple of them all had the same km's on them, also they seemed like high km's. You need rad, batteries, battery trays, motor stands, oil cooler to install . Also tranny. I am hooking mine up to a sm465/np205. One day I wil get a nv4500 when I can find one.

yeah he said he had it posted for 900 before? and said he wouldnt go lower than 400 or he would scrap it.

Buying a diesel factory truck is looking better an beter each day

madcow75 05-09-2011 10:28 PM

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I just purchased everything of a guy $430 for a complete engine compartment good running 1989 6.2L. tore it down to check it out and it's a good one. Just a couple of weeks later I riped down another for a complete top end of a 1993 6.5 turbo. So I got everything and some for $730 plus my time. Lots of spare parts also.

1tonchevy 05-09-2011 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by madcow75 (Post 4671717)
I just purchased everything of a guy $430 for a complete engine compartment good running 1989 6.2L. tore it down to check it out and it's a good one. Just a couple of weeks later I riped down another for a complete top end of a 1993 6.5 turbo. So I got everything and some for $730 plus my time. Lots of spare parts also.

I hate you.............. in a good way. just saying.

madcow75 05-09-2011 10:33 PM

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Yes but I have missed out on alot of good parts also. Kind of lookin for a 4wd nv4500 but they seem to be hard to find around here. Also for a descent price.

sierra4x4 05-09-2011 11:08 PM

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I think $1500 is not a bad price for the front half of a good running K30 because you will be getting a 6.2 diesel, Dana 60 front diff and a Th400/NP205 combo. If you were only getting the engine then i'd say too much but if it comes with all this then i'd go for it.


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