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Found this forum while surfing the web for new ideas and information about a restoration I have just started. I don't know much about what I am doing so all you veterans keep me on track and any help is appreciated!
Just bought a 1968 GMC 1/2 ton that was partially stripped down. Its came with a fresh 350 and fresh turbo 400 trans. neither of which were installed yet. with your help we are gonna make this baby look good and run like a top! :gmc2: |
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Like the way you think. :welcome2: from Iowa.
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There, That's better!
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:metal: What are your plans/intentions? Got any more history info?
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Litew8 same as yours, not factory new, but relatively nice. Some modernization is needed as well. Wood bed, front disc brakes, maybe a/c, tilt steering, clean it all up. undercoat the frame, body work and fresh paint.
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Bought this from a family member who had the intention of building a dragster. He is a custom hot rod builder by night and has become overwhelmed by all his paying customers projects and has no room or time for this one. this thing is stock/all original as far as i can tell or know. i will have to look at the VIN# and compare to the info in your thread to see what i can make of it. I know after reading your thread this is a 1/2 ton for sure.
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And so it begins, gotta good start I think. gonna focus on cleaning the frame back to front with a wire wheel. clean it with a solvent, metal prep, self etching primer, paint the primer just to seal it, and then undercoat. Any wise men disagree with my plan?Attachment 825184
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New pics coming soon.
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deeper and deeper
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Looks pretty clean already. Others have done what you're about to do.
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OK, after some debate and trying to figure out "how in the world I was gonna get in there?" I have decided to spend a few dollars and have the frame and suspension blasted.
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Just make sure they don't blast your brake lines too much. If they're old and thin, the blasting will tear them up. And since blasting doesn't like "grease", you should try your best to degrease it first. I used oven cleaner (well vented), soaked overnight - followed by power spraying.
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Ok, thanks for the tips, I didnt know that. Guess I will be degreasing the frame also. As far as the brake lines go I was gonna go with front disc and run new lines throughout, or have it done. How costly was your trip to the brake shop LITEW8?
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np man. For the d-greasing, if you use oven cleaner - you can probably get by buying the real cheap stuff at a Dollar General, or you can get Easy Off Original. Either way, the stuff is very potent, just make sure you are safe. Very well ventilated (outside in the open). It'll eat paint too (and prob. rubber) so be careful not to spray anything other than steel/grease.
The emergency brake line repair I had done after sandblasting for the passenger side rear was costly. It was a long piece that they had to replace and cost 100 if I remember. At that time I had to get it fixed so I could run the truck out to the body shop for work. It was done at a Midas. The other rear line I left since it still looked good. When I undercoated after sandblasting, I covered everything with Zero Rust, so hopefully the lines last. The front lines I bought pre-bent since I wanted a factory install, due to an emergency repair I performed about 5 years ago which was a mess. |
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well brakes are going to be a major cost on this job i can see already. basically want the whole works replaced. my truck has 4 wheel drum brakes and its not power brakes either. correct me if im wrong but i need a brake booster, new master cylinder for power brakes, replace all the lines in Stainless, prop. valve for the front discs, calipers and rotors. they make a kit for the front disc conversion though. any thoughts
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Never done a conversion, but it sounds like you're on the right track. You can always call up one of the vendors from which you're looking at kits and ask them. Maybe someone else can recommend a good reputable vendor for conversion kits, or stop in and answer.
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so far my most used links are Brothers, and LMC. they have about everything you could possibly need. looking at around 1100 dollars to do the entire brake system minus the rear drums. just going the re-shoe them and clean them up.:gmc2:
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Made my appointment at the sandmans shop. got two days to get'r prepped for blasting. when i get home this morn. Looks like I will be de-greasing. Also will post some good pics of the front spindles. guy i bought it from says they are 2" drop. wonder if i can re-use them for disc brakes? dont wanna buy spindles if i dont have too
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i bet your spindles will work if they are drop spindles, maybe someone else can shed a little more light on that ! keep up the work, your in the right place...WE ARE ALL IN TO DEEP !!
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need a little help. how do i get the taillight wiring harness plug out of the frame? rear frame where the rear taillights plug into. dont want to damage it
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lol, nevermind, brute force got it
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got a lot of work done today, the biggest pain in the ass was the tranny crossmember. I dont have a torch so i had to cut the rivets with a wheel. removed the brake lines, fuel lines, and took the front fenders, bumper and core support off, pulled all the wiring also. Ready for the blast man. dropping it off in the morning!
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those spindles look stock to me
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Ok the moment i have been waiting on for awhile!
Attachment 840218 :gmc2: Attachment 840219 :gmc2: Attachment 840220 :gmc2: Attachment 840221 :gmc2: got my baby back from the blast man. Primed it and waiting for my paint to come in. Going to topcoat with "Hardnose Paint" from POR 15. Its a really kick-ass 2 part industrial paint. I think it was the correct choice for this application. :gmc2: |
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but it's quite easy.. remember the kiddir banks that had the plug on the bottom to get the money out. it's holding that plug in the same manner |
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thanks for the reply WAAF. i figured that out after poking on it for a minute.
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Nice project! Your making good progress too. keep up the good work.
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thanks man, I have absolutely no idea what i'm doing aside from common sense, and what i have learned on this site.
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for what it's worth,,,,your projects looking great!! (I don't know what I'm doing either)
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Great build and thanks for the inspiration man, I am just as knee deep as you as I purchased my first c10 and going through the same sleepless nights. But I am going to five it a shot even if it takes 10 years....
I am having the same rocker panel issues as your truck, I am keen to see how you going to repair that section. Please post pics and parts you going to use to repair the rocker panels. great work and all the best. |
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Well got a few days off for the holidays. Did a few small things. floor pan looks like swiss cheese. Had a friend take a look and give me some advice about this.
Attachment 846591 Attachment 846592 Attachment 846593 Attachment 846594 Attachment 846595 his reply to my questions were basically this. "buy a new cab, spend alot of money to pay me to fix it, buy a floor pan and learn how to weld." :confused: :fry: Any inspiring comments? |
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Inspiration is a New cab from Arizona!
I am going to look at one for my first C10 in 20 years. Codename: Bucket (as in Rust). CA Central Coast Weather has not been kind to my beast. Yours is looking good though! What I did to get my welder (a Lincoln 140) was use my Home depot Military Discount (10%) and used a gift card purchased from one of those giftcard resale places on the net. (another 9.5% discount) Then all the extras (Masks etc.) from Harbor Freight. Welding isnt hard. Welding pretty is hard. If you decide to do it yourself, just jump in, buy some old junk panels at the yard and chop em up then see if you can put them back together a few times. Good luck! |
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You need more :dohh: icons in your posts. Helps relieve the stress. :lol:
tpost01 has good info. If you don't have the time or patients, pay your friend if he's good. |
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spoke with another friend about the floor pan, he says its not really that bad. He has done many of these just as bad many of them worse. Basically he will be showing me the way!:clap: I will be documenting this
That said I've been feeling better about the situation :gmc2: Here's what i got done since my last update. stripping down the front end!:metal: Attachment 849186 Attachment 849190 Taking everything back down to clean metal! Attachment 849187 Attachment 849188 Attachment 849189 list of parts on the way: Front Disc conversion kit from speedway power disc brakes!!!:metal: and it uses by drum spindles!!!:metal: Upper and lower ball joints, inner, and outer tie rod ends, and adjustment sleeves. from Napa New heavy duty Monroe towing and hauling shocks from just suspension and new rubber bumpers and a-arm shaft assemblies from LMC!! All new front end!!!:sumo: waiting for the fedex man :smoke: |
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