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58 TRUK intro
before reading my thread or any thread that uses photosucket picture hosting...
view this thread with google chrome web browser and add the photosucket hotlink extension to chrome ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- new guy intro to this site. i've been working on my 58 for 8 yrs, though i've owned this one for ~25 yrs. back then it was my daily driver/work truck for my own electrical business. bought my 1st 58 from the high school janitor back in 72. had various 56-59 trucks since, all were dd's. this is around 2000. truk came from arkansas, i thought it was a good body; until i had it sand blasted. found out it was a rusty cab, wrecked sometime in the 70s with decent front clip. replaced floors, rockers, steps, cab corners, hinge pockets and door bottoms in & out. 58 truk had a ladder rack bolted to the cowl and the bed at one time. the wreck that replaced the front clip also wiped out the whole left side. a full inch of filler covered this lr fender and reshaped the lip. |
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the battery has been relocated behind the pass seat.
welded up 100+ holes in the firewall. shaved cowl vent and shaved cowl seam. http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...e/P3280014.jpg http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...interior17.jpg |
frame
fully boxed frame, 'fatman fab' mustII x-member, 86 trans am rearend w/ 3.27 posi gear,
axle flipped on top of stock springs, c-notched frame, 4 wheel disc brakes, ss brake lines and 03 cobra hydroboost in stock mc location. http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...e/P1020013.jpg http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...spenssion1.jpg http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...e/IMG_0275.jpg |
bed
for reasons i cannot explain...
frame and bed shortened 6'', 90 new yorker trunk (8'' sectioned) installed. http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...1121091622.jpg http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...1123091546.jpg fiberglass tonneau cover http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...0701001831.jpg http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...0630001242.jpg trex plastic bed ''wood'' http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...0617001234.jpg |
drive train
ramjet 350: 350 hp, 400 ftlb, efi, gm crate motor
700r4 trans, 86 trans am rearend w/ 3.27 posi. 22 gal al fuel tank side fill with new yorker gas door. http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...21091631-1.jpg http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...e/IMG_0276.jpg http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...009-1small.jpg |
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I like it , nice truck!!
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Very Cool Ogre, I like its stance & quick little build thread to boot!
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Awesome! Great looking truck man. :metal:Thanks for the pics, and welcome to the board.
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Very nice truck. I like the custom bed. Kim |
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Yellow... Really cool.:metal:
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I just saw your truck on another website yesterday. Welcome and very nice truck.
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Totally Sweet!! :)
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thanks for the kudos, glad you like it.
these seats were freebies out of an 07 ford fusion, that was used for factory testing. the covers were shot, but the frames and cushions were good. with the head rest off, they were way to tall, sticking 8'' above the rear window. http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n.../interior5.jpg i cut and welded the frames and cushions to match the tape line above and had a friend recover them. http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...0519091205.jpg the drivers seat is all electric, i welded up a base to raise the seats 2'' to give me a little more leg room. http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...0930091702.jpg |
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Those came out nice.
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Nice work,And the bed looks great, nice metal work!
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58 TRUK interior
my interior was basic ugly butt truck w/ butcher dash.
i found a gmc safari minivan steering column to get tilt, ignition, turn and dimmer on the column. http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...e/IMG_0311.jpg the interior design started out fairly basic, a 4'' bent metal fascia to mount the radio and ac vents in. but... after doing all the custom work to the truk and bed, i found fiberglassforums.com and the interior snowballed from there. i probably spent a year building this interior... sub enclosure and armrest: http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...nterior314.jpg http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...nterior3-1.jpg http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/_ogre/19.jpg http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...re/subbox1.jpg console: a few wires, single din dvd player, headrest monitor and a few switches for doors and windows. http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n.../interior3.jpg http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n.../interior1.jpg http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...interior26.jpg http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...interior43.jpg then i needed to cover up the ugly steering column, hide the vintage air unit and some ac vents. a little cardboard mailing tube, plywood and a hot glue gun, followed by fiberglass and little sanding. http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...nterior315.jpg http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...interior41.jpg http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...console002.jpg |
58 TRUK interior
kick panel speakers: i had shaved the cowl vent, thus had no use for kick panel vents.
4.5'' midrange and a 2'' tweeter. http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...0507091200.jpg http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...0507091306.jpg http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...0507091353.jpg add a little vinyl http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...0610091505.jpg http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...0610091517.jpg 2 rolls of rammatt, 20 yds of deadening foam and some carpet... http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...0529091519.jpg http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...0529091520.jpg |
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nice fiberglass work I like the steering column cover,Looks better than a lot of the modesty panels I have seen. Keep up the good work!
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Great job on the interior.
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58 TRUK doors
doors:
i wanted power windows without spending a lot of money. a friend gave me a set of new (in 06) dodge durango power scissor regulators. it took a bit of figuring before i cut the door and cut i did, a big ol hole. i mocked up the regulator on a piece of wood to figure out where to mount and the travel required. i ended up mounting the regulator on the door panel, all the access holes are for reaching screws. mock up down http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...r/mock-up3.jpg mock up up with door panel mount http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...r/mock-up4.jpg door cut out http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...or/doorcut.jpg door assembled http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n.../powerdown.jpg i have shaved door handles. problem with a task force truck is the door glass is very close to the inner door skin. this makes positioning the solenoid difficult. i looked at placing it down low on the door and decided to make it easy by locating the solenoid on the outside of the door. i used new original style door latches. http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...r/IMG_2252.jpg then i started on door panels by cutting some 1/4'' luan plywood http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...r/IMG_2255.jpg make a frame work to fiberglass to http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...r/IMG_2262.jpg and some fiberglass, a smucking of filler and a lot of sanding... http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...r/IMG_2267.jpg add a little vinyl http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...0515011800.jpg some carpet, speakers and an armrest pad http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...0518011810.jpg some wheres in the middle of all this, i looked at rebuild my vent windows. the wings and frames were rusty, it would have been $800 to replace the frames. brothers one-piece-windows kit was on sale for $189, so i change to one-piece windows. |
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Very ingenious on the power windows.
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TRUK doors 2.0
running wires into the door from the door jam proved to be a challenge.
i had 2 speaker wire, 2 solenoid wires, 2 window wires and a safety door release cable to run into the door. the release cable is a bicycle brake cable ~3/16'', needless to say i had a fistful to run into the doors. i tried the spring like door wire loom; it wouldn't carry half the wires and wouldn't work with the door hinge geometry on 55-59 trucks. again, necessity is the mother of invention... i drew up the hinge geometry to design my door wire loom, just basic pivot points and door locations. http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...oorharness.jpg using 3/4'' sq aluminum tubing and some 1/4x2 flat stock from home depot, i made these. pivot is a 1/8'' roll pin. http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...r/doorwire.jpg door open http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n.../doorwire3.jpg door closing http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n.../doorwire2.jpg they worked out rather well. 2-#16, 4-#14 and the 3/16'' cable fit in with room to spare. everything mounts and pivots on the door jamb. i cut an over sized hole in the door and made a plastic bushing to guide the loose end in and out of the door. |
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on a custom truck, that seam is just plain old fugly. my cowl and firewall were off by an 1/8'', i'll try to explain my method. i tried to find better pics of the process but obviously i didn't take any. there are 3 pieces of metal in the seam: firewall, cowl and inner cowl. if you pull the cowl vent off you will see the inner cowl piece. i started by spot welding the firewall to the the inner cowl from under the dash. you can see where the welding burned the paint on the top of the flange. then i cut out 8'' pieces of the seam, leaving 6'' pieces in between them. a little push pull to line up the 2 sides and welded the center inch together. then i went back and removed the rest of the seam, lined them up and finished welding it. http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...e/P3280014.jpg http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...interior17.jpg it did take a bit of filler to get the finished firewall flat, luckily it was a inny not an outy. :D i left a little seam above my inner fenders, it's right next to the hood hinge and doesn't detract from the look. i welded up 100+ holes in the firewall, the easy way would be a flat sheet over the whole thing. but i think the original ribs make for a more pleasing look. also notice that i shaved my cowl vent. the cowl vent is the number one reason our trucks rust. leaves and junk get in the vent, add some rain and you have a recipe for rust. inner cowl rust, front cab corner rust and hinge pocket rust are all caused by junk in the cowl vent. if you do only one mod to your truck, shave the cowl vent... http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...interior15.jpg added bonus of no cowl vent is no kick panel vents. this allows you to put some kick speakers in there... http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n.../interior6.jpg http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...0610091505.jpg |
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really nice work on everything 1- the door wire looms are very nice - may have to rethink my own thoughts on that
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go for it. i won't sue for patent infringement (yet)... :D
bed wood: i've seen bed wood that looked worst than original after a couple of years. plus i wanted something different. trex plastic decking from home depot http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...1018001422.jpg http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...1018001421.jpg yes, it really is 58 TRUK ^^^^ http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...0610001503.jpg easy to cut on the table saw, won't rot, never needs finishing... what else can i say? |
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if you like the door loom, you'll love these.
door switches: i have an alarm that needed door switches for obvious reasons and i like the dome light on when i open a door. these are 3/4'' strips cut out of some 10ga steel i had laying around. maybe 5'' long. 2 holes. 2 bends. nothing critical, final adjustment is to bend the bracket after installation. :D the switches are typical gm door switch from the 60s to 90s. http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...0409011811.jpg http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...0409011809.jpg lousy cell phone pics, but you get the idea. door closed (shot looking up at the top hinge). http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...0409011819.jpg door open http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...0409011814.jpg |
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lot's of great ideas
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Cool build. Have anymore picture of the sub box as its being built? I assume its resin soaked fleece?
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This will be next on the list now! Brian ;) |
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Thanks for the help on the ugly firewall seam. I also like the stock look of the firewall ribs so the new flat cover plates doesn't work for me.
I really like the idea of shaving the cowl vent, but if you do, and get rid of the side vents, how do you get fresh air into the cab? |
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dads burb
how do i get fresh air in the cab? close the doors, roll up the windows and drive. the air rushing past the doors seals will deafen you at 85mph. :D that and truk has ac |
Amp gauge to volt gauge conversion
Amp gauge to volt gauge conversion
when i re-wire my truck with a EZ Wire harness and added all the accessories and a lot of loads, i decided not to use the amp meter in the gauge cluster. rather than leave it dead, i converted it to a volt gauge. i didn't take any pics of the conversion, but this is how it turned out. i used a $10 autozone off the shelf 2'' volt gauge. i gutted the gauge down to the bare essentials, no case and no face plate. i gutted the stock amp meter down to the bare essentials too. no guts, just the back and face plate. it was a close fit width wise, to screws held the face plate on the volt gauge, 2 screws held the face plate on the volt gauge. hammered a couple of dimples out of the amp gauge face plate and drill 2 holes to match the volt gauge and screwed it on. the needle didn't match the other gauges so i whacked it off and used a little epoxy to attach the old needle to the new gauge. the studs on back of both gauges were the same. i carefully reused the old and new insulators to make sure nothing would short out. calibration: hooked it up to a fully charged battery and bent the needle to match the center dot on the old face. installed it. usually it run positive of the center dot; charging at 14 volts. ignition off it goes to the left http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...0411011626.jpg old temp gauge and new volt meter. new gauge sticks out 1/16'' past, but who cares... http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...0411011624.jpg gauge back with old and new insulators. new gauge has threaded studs. http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...0411011621.jpg new face plate ($9) and a little crinkle paint from a spray bomb and this is the finished product. http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...e/truck063.jpg notice the new volt gauge position, just right of center tell me i'm approx at 14 volts. i bought a new speedo to reset the odometer, i figured everything on truk was new, the odometer should show new truk miles :D http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...1/IMG_0492.jpg it's an amazing transformation from old to new. all new bulbs, a little washing and a little paint and it looks better than new. i have my gauges out to replace the speedo, it was hanging at 30 and would work again after 45 (and a bump in the road) classic parts has new speedos for $99, cheaper than i could get it worked on. |
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The gauge cluster looks real nice.
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i learned everything i know from fiberglassforums.com good site too, the admin just revamped it. shaping http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...nterior314.jpg pre-fleece http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...nterior3-1.jpg fleeced (actually ponte) http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...erior3-1-1.jpg glassed http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/_ogre/19.jpg painted http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...0529091520.jpg the enclosure with out the arm rest would fit behind any bucket or bench seat. it finishes of the whole area behind the seats all the way to the door edge. follow the link above to see an in depth overview of my fiberglass interior. i designed everything to slide in and out, though i have to gut truk to remove this :D |
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Your truck just blew me away! very impressive work and the quality is top notch. I like how you add new technology with old school looks, very nice.
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Great pics. I have to complete this same area on my interior...I will be tackling that this winter. I have also book marked the fiberglass site.
Keep it up. Marc |
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