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OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:12 PM

Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
I got my '71 last February and have been lurking this site for over a year now. I have already stolen waaaay too many ideas to not repay the favor.

I will repost a bunch of my posts from Pirate4x4 forum to get up to date, then start from there.

If there are any details I missed, you can go HERE for the detailed thread.








I TRADED THIS:

Crazyblaze Build Thread

The CraZyBlaZe was pretty much topped out unless I tore it totally apart again to go full buggy. To go wheeling anywhere near KC it is at least a 1.5 hour tow. Most of my friends had gotten out of wheeling/camping or moved away so it just wasn't as fun as it used to be.
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...5/P2190017.jpg

One last hug :(
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...5/P2190057.jpg



FOR THIS (plus some extra parts):
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...5/P2190059.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...5/P2190064.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...5/P2190078.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...5/P2190083.jpg
Specs copied from his sale thread:
1971 Chevy short bed. nice truck but needs some paint and little body work to be super nice. Runs strong, motor and tranny have maybe 300 miles on it.

Dana 44 front, open 4.10
14 bolt ff rear, open 4.10
Turbo 400 custom built for motor and truck from phoenix transmission
Np 205
37"x14" iroks 99% tread
16x10 imitation welds

Engine started life as a 2 bolt 454. now solid roller 496
Bored .060" with torque plate
Decked
line honed
milodon splayed billet maincaps installed
Eagle 4340 forged 4.25 stroker crank
Eagle 4340 forged h-beams 6.385"
SRP forged pistons .230 dome 10.6 to 1 comp. ratio
File fit moly rings
King race bearings
Fully balanced to less than a gram
Milodon hv/hp oil pump
arp main and head studs
Howards solid roller cam and lifters 285/290, Lift .660/.675
Pro comp 320cc rectangle port aluminum heads
Fel pro mls head gasket
Stainless steal roller rockers
gear drive
heavy wall comp cams pushrods
edelbrock vic jr 454r intake
Pro form 950 race carb
Dynoed 565 hp @ 5500 585 ft/lb@ 4500
Made over 550 ft/lb from 3000 up
Hooker competition headers, dual 3" with flowmasters

http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/a...ngine002-1.jpg

http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/a...andtree003.jpg

http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/motor017.jpg

If you look closely in the bed of the truck above, he included a complete chevy DRW D60. Also included was a full hydroboost unit.

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:14 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
So that brings us to tonight, when we finally got home from Denver where we traded.

Pulled it off the trailer and took the wife for a ride around the block. The truck starts OKish but honestly runs like ****; hissing, popping, and backfiring throughout the whole ride around the neighborhood. You can tell deep down at it's heart it is a race quality engine, but everything that surrounds/connects to it pretty much needs redone. On a side note the tranny works well and shifts firmly, though it is missing the torque converter shroud.

Well, after getting back home I quickly discovered what I had gotten myself into. I didn't get a pic of the two spark plug wires that were burnt through, but I will let the pics do the talking.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/P2200004.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/P2200008.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/P2200009.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/P2200011.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/P2200023.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/P2200022.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/P2200012.jpg

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:14 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/P2200024.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/P2200034.jpg

This is the one that scares me :eek:
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/P2200030.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/P2200029.jpg

Don't get me wrong, I am not dumb. I knew what I was getting into, but DAMN this is going to be a lot of work :D

I want this to be a DO IT ALL vehicle. Reliable daily driver, drive down the highway, take it to mud drags, go to the dunes, and kill some mustangs (If I don't win the race I will just have to lock the hubs and run over them :flipoff2:)

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:15 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
Couple more pics:
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/P2200026.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/P2200017.jpg

Issues:
Engine needs tuning and all new spark plug wires
None of the dash lights work
The turn signals have a mind of their own
The brakes suck
The steering wheel can move 1/4 turn without doing anything
all of the doors/door handles are essentially non-operational
The radio doesn't work (not that it matters, you wouldn't hear it over the engine :smokin:)
The seat is only bolted down on one side :confused:
There are enough electrical gremlins to keep me busy for years :shaking:
It's LOUD!!!!! Kinda cool at first, but for it to be multipurpose, it is doing to have to be tamed significantly.


The initial plans:
Get the engine running right
Clean it, top to bottom (this will make a HUGE difference in itself)
Fix all of the door handles so I can freaking get in and out like a normal person without reaching through the window.
Disk brake the 14 bolt
Drive it.....a lot.....

Later Plans:
...I don't want to give away all my secrets :evil:


It will be a pretty slow build on a small budget and not a lot of time after life,work, and my masters. I will be building everything myself when possible/feasible.

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:16 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
Well, I got some time to work on it yesterday and fixed a lot of problems.

1. There was 1 ground wire from the alternator bracket to the battery. It now has 3. Frame to Engine, Engine to Batt, and Body to Batt.

2. The thumb handle on the drivers door handle was missing. I ran down to LMC Truck since it is 10 minutes away (:smokin:) and bought a whole new handle kit for 30 bux.

3. I put clips on all of the window cranks and inner door handles so they don't fall off every time I close the door (35cents each)

4. Got the radio working. There was a separate wire going from the radio to the battery that was laying in the fender. All I did was hook it up.

5. Installed a quick disconnect on my battery. This way it wont burn to the ground in the driveway and take my house with it.......

Put new windshield wipers on. Normally I wouldn't include a picture of something this mundane but I was impressed.
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/P2260038.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/P2260040.jpg

Took the seat out after removing the 1 bolt that was holding it in :eek:
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/P2260042.jpg

After power washing it
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/P2270059.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/P2260044.jpg

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:17 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
The radio is partially functional now. Everything works until you turn it up over 1/3 volume then the amp cuts out. Wonder if this has something to do with the custom ground wire :confused:

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/P2260047.jpg

Bonus wires:
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/P2260051.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/P2260054.jpg

I need some help from you guys with the carb. It currently has a Proform 950 on it with no choke or provision for a choke. I haven't tried THAT hard, but it has been 30's-40's out lately and this thing refuses to start.

Has this carb on it: http://www.proformparts.com/product-...ategory_id/181

So my question is, I want to put a "more normal" carb on this thing so it will freakin start without a team of people. I have been looking at street avenger 870's. Would this one work well, or is there something that would be more suited to my application like a truck avenger. Problem is the biggest truck avenger is a 770 CFM if I remember correctly.

This carb: http://www.holley.com/data/types/pic...A_IntoZOOM.jpg

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:18 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
AHA! I figgured it out......and now I feel really stupid.

Cliffnotes: After trying to start it for a while I went and grabbed the other set of keys with the fob to the alarm that I didn't think worked. Hit disarm, and sure enough it started right up :homer: Wish I would have thought of that a couple days ago.

I knew it would happen sooner or later, but she already bled all over the driveway......
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0512.jpg


Short video
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...h_MVI_0514.jpg
Kinda lame but I wasn't about to get on the highway while trying to take a video.

Still has some issues and a tick that I haven't figured out yet, but otherwise runs like hell :smokin:

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:18 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
Still chipping away at the ol' girl. Ever since my video the other day I haven't been able to get it to start :confused:

Can a race carb with no choke really just NOT start if it is <40* out????? Or am I dealing with a wiring problem?

Since I couldn't figure it out and it has been cold for the last couple days I decided to start sorting out the wiring.

I didn't intend to get this deep this soon, but it is snowballing quickly

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0521.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0526.jpg

uhhh yea, that is water draining out of the alarm box.... I can't beleive this truck never burned to the ground :eek:
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0524.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0530.jpg

Lookin better
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0531.jpg

All the wires hanging out the pass side are for the stereo. They are getting the knife next.

The whole inside is covered in 20 year old dynomat....there is no way I am taking all of that up.....
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0533.jpg


I ordered a new painless harness but Jegs told me it is backordered with no estimated ship date...:(

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:19 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
Jegs ROCKS. I called up to cancel my order and Larry on the phone wouldn't accept failure. He called me back a couple of hours later and said he found the only one in existence in one of their retail stores and had it pulled out of the store and shipped to me. Now THAT is customer service :smokin:.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0546.jpg

Now I have a 10 page research paper to do before I can start on it :(


I threw one of my Corbeau's in it so I could sit in the truck and make vroom sounds, but I wasn't as excited as I thought I would be. Even the wife said "but the bench seat looks so...classic"

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0544.jpg

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:19 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
Welp, after a lot of frustration, I finally got 'er to run :D

Upon further investigation of the distributor I found some interesting things....

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0620.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0619.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0621.jpg

After a new cap, rotor, and coil she started up. Still running on 7 cylinders though, I am going to replace one (maybe all..) of the wires tomorrow.


And of course another gratuitous wiring picture.
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0604.jpg

And the reason that I haven't been getting anything done lately :grinpimp:
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/101_0141.jpg

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:20 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
I haven't been completely worthless lately.

After ~4 years of use my trailer was starting to show some wear. It had a dumb toolbox on the front and some cracked welds on the tongue so I beefe'd 'er up.

Before:
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...5/P2190057.jpg

After:
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0652.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0653.jpg

Some pics of my Dad's fleet that he has been building up. He recently repainted the Deuce himself a couple of months ago.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0648.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0650.jpg


Bad news on the puppy, she got really sick on Tuesday and we found out that she had Parvo...... We called the puppy rescue place that we got her from and they came and picked her up right away so they could start her on medications and iv fluids but I am not sure if it is enough. As of today she hasn't eaten for 5 days...:( We are hoping lil' Gertrude pulls through though.

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:21 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
Well, figured out why the truck wasn't happy :eek:

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0664.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0666.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0668.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0669.jpg

It doesn't look like there was any other damage besides the broken stud.

What would cause this? Over-torque?

Anybody recognize the brand? They don't have any markings.

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:21 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rigpig on juice (Post 12708417)
Check the retainer to valve guide clearance.
Check the pushrod length, make sure the stud isn't hitting the rocker body.
Possibly the lock and/or screw is being overtightened.
How much thread engagement does the polylock have? The studs could be too short.
What RPM did you run and how much lift does the cam have?

The rocker body has some slight witness marks but they are on the wrong side if the pushrod were too long. I'm sure they had something to do with the rocker dismounting from the stud.

I couldn't get the adjuster nut out of the polylock, I was on the verge of breaking my allen wrench in half.

Found a spec that the effective stud length on the 7/16" studs is 1.900". The remaining stud on mine is 1.555" which would give me approx .345" of engagement. Seems like in a perfect world it could use more engagement but the issue wasn't thread holding, it was that the bolt broke which would happen no matter how long the bolt is right?

You gotta give me some slack though, I didn't even know what a polylock was until this morning :flipoff2:

I personally haven't had it over ~4K RPM before that, who knows...

Cam Specs:
Howards Mechanical Roller Cam
Max Torque
121153-10
Valve lift with 1.7 Rockers: 0.660 0.675
Duration in Degrees Advertised: 285 290
Duration in Degrees @.050": 248 255
Lobe Separation Angle: 110
Valve lash: 0.020 0.020
98631
Mechanical Roller Tappet 2500-6700 Good mid-range horsepower, rough idle. Needs 11.0:1 CR-up

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0670.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockbuggy84 (Post 12708439)
That rocker possibly was a result of all the fuel you were dumping into the cylinder when it was not firing. Maybe it hydro locked and that was the weakest link:confused: Also was this motor fired on a dyno and broke in? Or has its only run time since built been with misfires etc?

I was told it was ran on an engine dyno and made 550+hp. For how long, I have no idea.

Not sure how long it had been running rough before I got it, but it has never ran right since I have had it. I haven't driven it more than probably 10 miles the entire time I have owned it.

There were quite a few issues leading to it being run with misfires etc. such as the 2 burnt plug wires, 3 broken plug ceramics, bad coil, fubar'ed distributor cap, and the MIA rocker.

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:22 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
Good news: I got my poly locks and studs in.

Bad news: they won't work and after looking at the new studs there really was only about 4-5 threads inside of the poly lock.

Does anybody know where to find the ones on the left with the neckdown? I have been doing some research and haven't found anything that looks like what I took off yet.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0727.jpg

Other good news: I took all of that ugly chrome **** off the side of it :shaking:

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0719.jpg

I powerwashed most of the foamy stuff off, now I get to work with elbow grease to get the rest of the sticky stuff off.
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0724.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0723.jpg

The tranny decided to go Exxon Valdez on me again so now I get to reseal that too....

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:22 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
I take that back, I manned up and got some mechanical leverage goin and the poly lock came apart before my allen wrench did.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0728.jpg

Why would they stop threading the necked down poly lock before the end? It could have at least 2-3 more threads on it.
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/P4010011.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/P4010014.jpg

The new ones without the neck down do not fit in the machined relief on the rocker shaft.
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/P4010015.jpg


I think when I get a minute I am going to put in the new stud then put the old poly lock back on it until I can find another one.

Back to researching how to adjust these bad boys.

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:23 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
IT MOVED!!

I finally manned up and just put the freakin rocker on. I read all kinds of manuals and specs on how to do it, but when I was looking at all of the other rocker arms, they were all pretty loose. So I simply took the rocker and set it to the same loose-ness as the others until I have it dyno tuned or looked at by a shop.

Runs like a scalded dog when you get it over 3k rpm and the tranny shifts like a dream :smokin:

Under that rpm it isn't too peppy but I feel like this engine isn't really set up for this big heavy mo'fo. I can't even imagine what it would feel like in a car :eek:

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0828.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0846.jpg

Got the tailgate put on with some help from LMC Truck. I haven't figured out if it is a good or a bad thing that their warehouse is only 10 minutes from my house :evil:
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0855.jpg

Long tubes get HOT, this is a pic of the dynomat melting on the pass side floorboard. I temp'ed the floorboard about 5 min after I shut it off and it was still at ~175*
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0830.jpg

NEXT:
Load it up with mulch and do some gardening
Fix leaks
Fix more leaks :shaking:
Put disks in the rear with my new RuffStuff brackets
Pick a color that I am going to start painting stuff so it is all at least the same color.
E-fans with a controller

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:23 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
Thanks for the info, we'll have to see how well it works

Christmas in April:
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_1064.jpg

Also got the Super Tuning and Modifying Holley Carburetors by Dave Emanuel, maybe that will shed some light on my understanding of carbs a little more :homer:

Once I get it running reliably and start to mess around offroad I will probably extend the vent tubes on the bowls or try to build my own vented crossover tube.

Now I get to finish typing my 10 page research paper before I get to start in on it :(

Grad school sucks sometimes......I hope it is worth it in the end.

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:24 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
Random unrelated trailer tech.

My FIL has been working on rebuilding this old trailer. He built a nice fold down gate on it, but it ended up being too heavy for anybody other than him or myself to lift.

We looked at some coil springs like they put on gooseneck ramps, but I remembered seeing a setup like below on the little flatbed U-haul trailers.

So we drew some pictures and dug through my random offroad parts bin. Bill put it all together himself. When he first finished, the gate didn't even touch the ground. With the washers above the spring, it just lightly comes to a rest on the ground when you let go.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...m/IMG_1073.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...m/IMG_1076.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...m/IMG_1078.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...m/IMG_1080.jpg

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:25 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
Spent a good 12 hours on the truck today. Got A LOT done.

Hmm, think it backfired a couple times?? :eek:
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_1063.jpg

So, while I was removing the old carb I put my hand somewhat lightly on the distributor and knocked it waaay out of time...hold down bolt was loose.....imagine that...:shaking:

So I got the timing close enough to start with the new carb and but you could tell something was missing. Hit the headers with the temp gun and sure enough 1 and 7 aren't firing. Sad thing is, the engine runs/idles smoother on 6 cylinders with the new carb than it did on all 8 with the old carb....

Not sure why 1 and 7 are not firing, but I am about **** full of these Jegs wires. I am going to get a full set of 8mm generic auto parts store wires tomorrow. I already replaced one wire with a generic 8mm wire and the level of quality is waaaay better than the 8.5 "super" Jegs wires...

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_1089.jpg

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:25 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
mmmmm, disk brakes :smokin:

Ruff Stuff bent caliper brackets. Fit great, I did have to do a lil' grinding/sanding where the caliper slides so it would slide a little easier.
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_1101-1.jpg

Lines up and out of the way. Don't want the zombies to get caught on them when I go Chuck Norris their asses :evil:
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_1112.jpg

Note for people installing disks on their 14 bolt. The caliper on the left is a ~75' 4WD front 3/4 ton caliper and the caliper on the right is a ~75' 2WD front 3/4 ton caliper. Everything is the same except for the brake lines/banjo bolts. Keep this in mind when you order your calipers/lines from the store to make sure you get the matching stuff.

I ended up going with the 4wd calipers and 4wd lines, they seem to be a LOT easier to find and the auto parts store keeps them in stock.
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_1109.jpg

The level of dumb in this truck still amazes me :confused:
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_1128.jpg

Took the buffer and some rubbing compound to the drivers side. Little better.
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_1124.jpg


Vision of the future??? :evil:
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...m/IMG_1092.jpg

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:26 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ubluzin (Post 12847226)
I love this build. Looks awesome and please keep updating it!!

What caliper brakets did you go with? And what caliper did you end up using?

Ubluzin, I updated my post above.



So I was sitting there polishing wheels with my new powerball and thought to myself "Wow, this is really starting to borderline BDMT....." :laughing:

Don't worry kids, this thing is ganna be ratardedly awesome in a year or so. Just no tight trails :flipoff2:

Before:
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_1151.jpg

After about 45 minutes:
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_1153.jpg

2 wheels done, 2 more to go.

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:26 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
So, I was having such a good day.

Polished the remaining 2 wheels

Pulled the torched off studs out of the D60

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_1175.jpg

This made the job extra easy:
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_1176.jpg



Pulled all of the plugs and inspected them before I replaced the wires. Found one cracked ceramic and replaced it. They all looked pretty dark so she was running waaay FAT, 1 and 7 actually still had fuel on them.

After I was done with the wires she started on the second kick :grinpimp: but was still running rough, I could tell it wasn't running on all 8. So I pulled the cap and inspected for anything weird. All looked good.

Then I got the "oh ****" feeling and very defeatedly pulled the valve cover off.....:shaking:

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_1178.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_1179.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_1182.jpg

This time the exhaust studs on 1 and 7 popped :mad3:

WTF

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:27 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MY56CJ6 (Post 12853791)
Gotta love the 71's.....

That is purdy, mine will prolly never look that nice though.


Well, I have 16 new ARP studs on order. When they come in I am going through the whole valvetrain, replacing them all, and adjusting them all myself.



Patched the hole in the roof:
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_1218.jpg


Patched the swiss cheeze tailgate. There is a large dent in it that I can't get out with the tools I have. We are going for good-enough on the bodywork :flipoff2:
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_1190.jpg

Put the lap belts from my 5 points in. Might not be DOT approved, but it is a hell of a lot better than what was there.
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_1215.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_1212.jpg

What do you guys usually use for body filler? I have worked with bondo before and HATE it.

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:28 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
Well, yesterday I deviated from the plan a little. Since I knew I was going to be taking off the valve covers a lot I decided to make some more room...

mmmm yummmy
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_1288.jpg

Ever wonder why your blower motor doesn't work?
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_1285.jpg

Pile
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_1292.jpg

ugh.....

The wiring is so bad that I didn't even bother labeling anything as I was taking it out.
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_1303.jpg

Found the custom mounted speakers :laughing:
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_1299.jpg

And finally, my new found room. I can now stand inside the wheelwell
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_1302.jpg

I'm going to check rocker lash, valve spring coil clearance, and a couple other things next.

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:29 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
Thanks for the info ^

Well, I pulled the pass side cover off today and the carnage continues......
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_1309.jpg

This is the pattern on the valve stem from the rocker that broke off
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_1318.jpg

Poor alignment on others
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_1314.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_1311.jpg

All of the pushrods on the rockers with bad alignment showed wear from the guide.
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_1342.jpg

This is the exhaust gasket that I checked the other day because I could hear it leaking....The bolt wasn't even finger tight.... :shaking:
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_1338.jpg

So here are the conclusions I came up with:
Crappy pushrod guides that don't line up
Triple valve springs (could potentially be the stud breaking problem?)
Lots of dumb :homer:

I am NOT having fun right now. I just wanna drive it :(

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:29 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
Money pit......
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_1378.jpg

I have been doing A LOT of reading in my Holley book and now the BBC book, and I still feel like I don't know anything.




From left to right: Original broken stud, stock length ARP "High Performance" replacement, 2" effective length ARP "Pro Series" stud

The pro studs should be the perfect length. I should be able to get 6-8 threads on it and have almost the whole rocker on the shaft and off the threads.
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_1388.jpg

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:30 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
Easy access
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_1552.jpg

Only good way I could figger out how to keep everything in order...
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_1570.jpg

Before I pulled everything apart I checked the clearance between a fully compressed spring coil, there was no bind and a bit less than .700 clearance between them IIRC. I didn't see anything that really concerned me.


I took all of the pushrod guides off and realigned them. The ones that still wouldn't fit right, I took off and used a carbide bit on the middle alignment bolt hole until they fit perfect.
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_1574.jpg

Also got the new header gaskets on and everything mostly buttoned up. I hope to take her for a ride tomorrow after I fix a couple other things.
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_1585.jpg

Picked up a couple axles. If you need some 3/4 ton d44 or FF14 whole or parts let me know.
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_1555.jpg

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:30 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
7am
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/IMG_2980.jpg

10am
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/IMG_2986.jpg

2pm
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/IMG_2997.jpg


http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/IMG_3000.jpg

cleaned up the firewall so I could shoot it with some black rustoleum. I am out of energy for today though.

Ready to go to the shop (disregard my rigging :flipoff2:)
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/IMG_2992.jpg

My rigging to hold the tranny up
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/IMG_2999.jpg

AND the culprit that was causing my horrible engine noise :mad3:
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/IMG_2988.jpg

Notice the shiny circle where the weight on the back of the crankshaft was rubbing. It just so happens that after I ran it and the busted studs, but before I put the new studs in it was when a buddy gave me this flexplate cover and I installed it. Then when I went to start it after the new studs it sounded terrible :rasta: figures..... I thought I had seriously screwed something up.

I am still going to take it to get it dyno tuned next week. I think I am going to shop around a little to find a shop that is not quite so far away.

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:31 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
Got some more done:

I guess the fender nuts had stripped out on one of the PO's so they torched two holes so they could get a wrench inside the cowl to put a nut on the bolts...:shaking:

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/IMG_3002.jpg


So I hogged them out with the step bit and welded in some square nuts and filled the holes.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/IMG_3004.jpg


The 3 holes that led to the drivers side cab rocker to rot. The water would drip down across the wiring/fuse box down the floor and into the channel where the weatherstripping is.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/IMG_3005.jpg


Not perfect body work, but it looks a lot better.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/IMG_3006.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/IMG_3012.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/IMG_3009.jpg

I think I'm ganna take a trip down to LMC today and get a set of the perforated cowl trash covers. It will be full of leaves within the next day if I don't...

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:32 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muddindog (Post 13494582)
Are you gonna go ahead and throw the 60 under the front while you have the motor out?

Possibly. I bought a spartan locker for the D60 but after putting it in, I managed to get the roll pin halfway in before it bent over. I have been trying to get it out for a while now and have broken at least 4 punches, it does NOT want to come back out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ubluzin (Post 13499006)
Good work. Love this build dont let it die!

Thanks man, it will definitely be slow going for another 8 months or so until I graduate.

Picked up my trash guards the other day, they are kinda cool but too $$$ for what they are.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/IMG_3014.jpg

Check out the NON chrome cowl I bought from a neighbor. It will most likely end up rustoleum black for the time being.
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/IMG_3015.jpg

Haven't taken the engine in yet. I am looking for a shop closer to home.

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:33 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
Baby steps. Posting progress to keep motivated.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/IMG_3031.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/IMG_3032.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/IMG_3035.jpg

Tore apart the grill to clean it up a bit. Didn't help much, but I plan to go get some SS screws to replace the rusty hardware on it.

(Grill L side polished)
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/IMG_3042.jpg


http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/IMG_3047.jpg


Before I put the engine back in I hope to replace/paint/fix a bunch of stuff in the engine bay.

I have been debating if I should put the effort into making an engine crossmember or just buy the ORD crossmember....

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:33 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
Coming along very slowly.

After realizing how much work the roll on rustoleum was going to be, I very quickly gave in to the rattle can sitting on the work bench :laughing:

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/PB260066.jpg

Cleaned up the core support, accessory brackets, headers etc. and got them painted.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/PB260069.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/PB260083.jpg

Slid the heart back into the beast and tucked her in for the night. Tomorrow brings engine accessories, sheetmetal, and possibly the hydroboost system if I get around to it.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/PB260081.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/PB260082.jpg

Even though I did not necessarily do anything while the engine was out, it gave me a chance to paint/go through everything that surrounds it. I now feel better that all of my motor mount, flex plate, and transmission bolts are securely locktite'd.

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:34 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by parts1junkie (Post 13663646)
what year frame is trk on --got one myself --rottening in the yard --

Your guess is as good as mine. It is the newer old body style frame, without looking it up I think it was 73-87'?

Quote:

Originally Posted by wingnuts514 (Post 13664202)
you can thin out the rustoleum about 5 to 1 ratio with some acetone and spray it pretty easily. Pick up a cheap gun with a screw on water separator from harborfreight.

I already bought the sprayer and paint, laziness just wins in this instance....

Quote:

Originally Posted by MCMLXIX (Post 13665780)
HERE is a nice clean bracket for the hydyoboost on 67-72 trucks. I have for my 72 Blazer if I ever get to install it... I also picked up a 2005 GMC booster and MC...

http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...1&d=1244429543

I did pull my box out from the basement with all of the hydroboost stuff in it, and it only took a couple of minutes to determine that it was a project that I will put off until another day. There were a whole bunch of things that were different.

My firewall already has a bracket that is deeper than the one you posted above, yet the rod on the hydroboost is even longer.




Here is my end of the weekend progress. My dad and I fixed a bunch of :mr-t: type repairs, while we were putting everything back together. Replaced the fuel hoses and filter, and put on some cheap plug wire separators.


http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/PB270070.jpg


http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/PB270072.jpg

Gotta pick up a new water neck, t-stat, collector gaskets, and hopefully an e-fan setup if I can find one that isn't $$$$

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:34 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
WWWOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOO

:bounce2:


Got everything bolted back up. Fixed some wiring stuff enough to get it operational.

Mark from down the street came by after we got it operational and set the timing at ~10* base and she purrs like a little kitten with emphysema :smokin:. After I got it running good, I immediately changed the oil and filter since it was a little fuel diluted.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...h_PC100116.jpg


Turns out, most of my problems had to do with the flexplate cover hitting the weights on the back of the crank. The rest of the problems were just stupid stuff and the race carb.

Gotta reassemble a bunch of stuff tomorrow, but I plan to have hopefully a somewhat successful maiden voyage tomorrow. :D

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:35 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
Maiden voyage was a success!!!! :D

Here are some really crappy vids because it was already dark.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...h_PC110127.jpg


http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...h_PC110128.jpg

It was actually rather uneventful unlike before. No backfiring, and no spewing of power steering fluid. Runs nice and smooth :smokin:

The brakes still suck.....I am going to have to figure out the hydroboost or something else fo sho.

Now on to the little stuff like wiring, brakes, adding the rest of the sheetmetal, bulbs, etc.....

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:36 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
WOOO HOOOO

Ok, so I didn't really do that much but she actually looks like a truck again with the hood on :D

You can clearly tell what parts I have touched and what parts are still in the condition that I got it.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/PC150145.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/PC150146.jpg

Got a good weekend of wrenching ahead of me starting Sat morning, hopefully I can turn'er into a runner. :smokin:

One thing that I noted is that the temp gauge is getting some weird readings. After warming up it will be right on 180* then jump up to 210* and even 240* but if you blip the throttle it plummets down to ~120*. Basically it just acts weird. I have two theories: 1. there is air in the cooling system somewhere (I do have an overflow properly plumbed and it works) or 2. it has something to do with the lack of a hose between the radiator and the intake.

I am thinking the water pump is deadheading without that upper tube and the hot fluid builds up until the thermostat opens. Just a thought about it, this weekend I will be adding the hose between the two and we will see if it helps...

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:37 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
One day of wrenching down.. wasn't real motivated, but I got a lot done.

This is my fix for the temp gauge problem as described above. I will have to find some kind of special 45* fitting or something because I had to make a loop in the hose in order for it not to kink. When I eventually took it for a drive the temp stayed at 195* the whole time.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/PC170164.jpg

Figured out most of my brake problem. My dad and I tried to bleed the brakes for ~45 minutes the other day to no avail. So I said screw it and just went and bought a new master cylinder for a whipping $15 :D. While not completely fixed, the brakes are A LOT better.

This is a pic of the old one where you couldn't see it was leaking while it was bolted on.
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/PC170160.jpg

Once I got all of that going, I went to go take it for a spin. Started it up, and shortly thereafter a pint of oil comes flowing out of the bottom of the dash. Just an fyi people, if your gauge has this tubing, replace it with copper tubing NOW. Luckily it happened while I was still in the driveway :eek:

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/PC170159.jpg


Drove it ~15 miles or so today and was all :D. This thing is already pretty quick, I can't imagine what it will be after I get all of the bugs worked out and a good tune.

Tomorrow's goal is to figure out why the tranny is puking fluid everywhere.

Are th400's supposed to have a kickdown cable?? Mine definitely doesn't.

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:38 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muddindog (Post 13753524)
I have a heater hose that is from a 76 buick lesabre(sp?) or a 76 olds cutlass, both had the 350 buick and 350 olds, but the heater hose from one of those cars has the bed that you are looking for.

Good idears, I didn't even think of using a hose with a bend already in it.





Well, overall it was a very successful day. I drove 'er all around town today and she just worked (for the most part).

Starting off, it felt like I wasn't getting full throttle. So we stopped in a park and adjusted the throttle bracket. HUGE difference, my current throttle bracket only has one hole so it can spin on the carburetor bolt. I moved it forward and tightened it up so the pedal wasn't bottoming out on the floor. I am now on the hunt for a new throttle cable/bracket.

She is still kinda finiky when starting, especially cold. I am assuming this is just one of those things that I will figure out with time and tinkering.

Pics :grinpimp:

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/PC180146.jpg

My helper :D

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/PC180149.jpg

After we adjusted the throttle, I was all :D. I can be rolling at about 5-10mph and punch it in first and it will break the tires loose.

I am guestimating after my jaunt around town yesterday and today, I probably went ~60 miles or so (no speedo cable). So that would mean with the 18.7 gallons of premium I just put in it means I am getting about 3mpg :flipoff2: Stick that in your prius and smoke it

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:39 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/IMG_2868.jpg

Got a new toy for the D60
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/IMG_2730.jpg

Blew apart the front axle to put it in and for some reason I can't get the roll pin out :mad3: Roll pin is still stuck halfway in as of 12/24... Probably going to have to take it to a machine shop.
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/IMG_2869.jpg

That leaves me with a pair of axles and workbenches that no longer have Toyota junk all over them :D

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/PC240180.jpg

OldBlue71Chevy 04-29-2012 07:39 PM

Re: Another OLD BLUE Build Thread - 71 Chevy
 
Two steps forward, one step back.

Well, I finally manned up and got the roll pin back out of the differential. I took one of my larger punches and ground it down until it just fit in the hole then hooked up my fancy new harbor freight punch handle. 3 large whacks later, it was out! Got my new roll pin out of the freezer and it went right in with a couple of taps (helps when you put it in the correct side of the differential)

My step back is that I accidentally dropped the diff while I was working on it and now get to replace one of the bearings :shaking:

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/P1080287.jpg

My dad and I are currently rebuilding one of the bathrooms in my house so while I was at Home Depot, I was perusing the spray paint isle and found rustoleum "navy" blue. Not perfect and not dry in the pic but not bad for $4 :flipoff2:

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...y/P1080289.jpg

Back to work tomorrow and I get the fun task of typing another 8-10 page paper before wednesday..... I keep telling myself 5 months left....5 months left....(Graduating in June)


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