LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan
 

I have a 2001 LM7 5.3L engine i am putting in a 1979 chassis that is lowered on airbags. when the truck is lowered, the oil pan sits right on the ground.
kind of thought it would.

i was thinking of using a F-body oil pan to gain plenty of clearance.

i found these numbers, anybody know if they are correct? or anybody made this change?

12558762 oil pan
12558251 pickup tube
12558253 windage tray

any advice would would be great.

Re: LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan
 

I'm not sure about the part numbers, but the F-body pan will solve your problem, I think it's only about 5.5" deep. I have one on my airbagged '50, Mustang II front with 5.3L and it's a good inch or two higher than the crossmember.

My only tips are be careful of used pans, look very closely for cracks. Also, there is a special alignment procedure for these pans. I think CTS-V and a couple of other styles will work too.

Leevon

Re: LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan
 

I have an 05 5.3 and swapped to a f body pan.....pace performance has an entire setup( dipstick, tube, windage tray, pan, gasket, bolts, pickup tube) it ran me 320 shipped to me. not sure of your budget but I thought it was a fair deal

Re: LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan
 

tell me more of this alignment procedure? what do you have to do?

hmm pace performance? will have to do web search, thanks for the info.

Re: LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan
 

Basically, you just want to make sure the back edge of the pan is aligned with the back of the block due to the fact that the transmission bolts to it. If it's overhanging the block, or in too far, bolting the transmission up tight will cause alignment issues. The shop manual says to put a straight edge on the back side, but it's not practicle if the engine is in the vehicle. Also, put a dab of silicone on the 4 corners of the pan gasket where the front and rear covers meet the block to prevent leaks, there is a little crosshatch area on the gasket in those areas if I remember correctly.

Re: LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan, CTS-V pan?
 

after measuring again

maybe a CTS-V pan would be best
CTS-V oil pan: Part#12605814
Oil pan defector: Part# 12611129
Oil pump pickup: Part# 12621299
Oil dipstick tube: Part# 12584737
Oil dipstick: Part# 12584738

anybody used the cadillac pan?

Re: LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan
 

I used an f-body pan in my swap and it has great clearance. The stock truck pan hung too low for comfort for me and I'm only static dropped 4.5". I got my stuff used from www.ls1tech.com classifieds.

Re: LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan
 

thanks my engine came from the wrecking yard with the bellhousing bolts loose, might take it off and align it that way. is the 4L60E same as TH400 that you have to spin torque converter until it falls in pump before bolting up?

Re: LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan
 

I have in my 69 c10 sits abou 1/2 inch above x member but I think it depends on which motor mounts your using here some photoshttp://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/...7/6957424d.jpghttp://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/...7/87d8c792.jpg
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Re: LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan
 

Definitley! If it's not seated all the way you'll ruin the pump! Had a buddy do that on a fresh rebuild, he got the fun of pulling it again.

Re: LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan
 

which pan is that? hard to tell upsidedown

Re: LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan
 

now it looks like the caddy pan after some serious web surfing.
but i am going to wait until motor mounts come back and measure again before i order pan. dont want to send two back.

Re: LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan
 

F-body pan vs. truck pan

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...1/100_2065.jpg
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Re: LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan
 

This is in my 68, which is similar chassis design as a 79.

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Re: LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan
 

I used an 07 CTsV pan and it worked great with the ECE motor mounts. Here's another thread with all the different oil pans:

http://www.gmtruckhq.com/lsx-tech/ls...them-2720.html

I swapped out my pan when the engine and tranny was still bolted together. At the time, I didn't know that there was a particular procedure to do this, I just bolted it on. Is there anything I can do to double check and make sure I have it installed correctly? The motor and transmission are already bolted in... Thanks in advance and sorry for the hi-jack...:D.

Edit: Here's another thread:

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=272174

Re: LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan
 

good site, confirmed what i was thinking........

don't worry about the hi-jack, it might have an answer i wanted to know :)

Re: LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan
 

see the pictures i modified, i am thinking the caddy pan is best fit. second picture said holden, but looks real similar to caddy pan.

Re: LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan
 

I posted pictures of the caddy pan installed in my burb build thread.

Re: LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan
 

gm musclecar pan in my 86....kinda hard to tell, but it's about 3/4" above the bottom of the crossmember.....If I was doin it over I'd get the f-body pan or the Holley pan....

Re: LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan
 

I am looking @ the Gm musclecar pan for my 69, but a ? What would sway you to the other 2 pans that you mentioned...(oil capacity, fit, ect.)? crazyL

Re: LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan
 

the f-body and holley pan are shorter still....more ground clearance..

Re: LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan
 

Thanks;) I see the truck in your avitar....mine is lowered, but not "slammed'. I think the pan will work out for my app:chevy: crazyL

Re: LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan
 

I also have a 5.3l in a TF chevy truck, I did use an Ls1 pan but would probably go with the Caddy pan if I was to do it again, the camaro pan is shallower but the sump is longer front to back if you are running a camaro or similar clip the fit is very tight from rear of crossmember to front of sump with the engine set very close to the firewall.

Re: LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan
 

does anybody know if these are current GM numbers?

CTS-V oil pan: Part#12605814
Oil pan defector: Part# 12611129
Oil pump pickup: Part# 12621299
Oil dipstick tube: Part# 12584737
Oil dipstick: Part# 12584738


also anywhere to get these besides GM dealers or GMpartsdirect?

Re: LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan
 

Check the classifieds at ls1tech.com. That's where I got most of my stuff.

Re: LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan
 

After searching GM parts website and LS1tech i found,
caddy oil pan part no 12605814 and part 12598152 both have been superseded by
#12631828 oil pan.

and found a note that says #12611129 deflector is not needed for swaping a truck pan. they are the same part. hmmm who knew?

Re: LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan
 

Heres all the info you need to know..

http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversion...-oil-pans.html

Re: LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan
 

found nice pictures here.

most info is the same but nice pictures

http://www.improvedracing.com/LS-oil-pan-dimensions.php

Re: LM7 5.3L to CTS-V oil pan
 

2009-Present Cadillac CTS-V Oil Pan
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Vehicles:2009 Cadillac CTS-VCapacity:6 quartsOil Filter Thread:M22 x 1.5mmBaffles:Factory only
- Part Numbers -


Oil pan:12631828 (current), 12605814 (previous), 12628451 (previous)
Pickup tube:12621299
Windage tray:12611129
Dip stick:12584737
Dip stick tube:12584738
Pickup tube o-ring:12557752
Gasket:12612350

Re: LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan
 

I'm swapping to an LM4 and have a F body oil pan, but stumped on what to do with the new dipstick. From what I can tell, the new pan doesn't have any place for the dipstick.

Can anybody clarify this issue for me?

Re: LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan
 

Dipstick doesn't go in the pan on an F body. Your engine should have a place for the dipstick in the block, that may or may not be drilled for it. If it's drilled for it, it will have a tiny freeze plug looking thing in it that you can knock out, but since your other thread you make it sound like it's an older engine, they sometimes aren't drilled for it. Drilling it isn't hard if the engine isn't in the vehicle though.

Re: LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan
 

Thanks for the input ls1nova, I looked the block over again last night and the truck oil pan is where the dipstick is located and because this engine came out of a 4wd Envoy, it's a front sump oil pan (see attached pic).

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I'll have to look the motor over to see if I can find the location for the dipstick. The motor is out of the vehicle currently, which is why I'd prefer to address these issues before putting it in my truck.

Re: LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan
 

Any chance someone with an F Body block could post a pic of the dipstick location?

I'm trying to figure out how to address the dipstick issue before I install the engine.

Re: LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan
 

This is a 2002 Camaro LS1, but truck blocks are pretty similar.

Re: LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan
 

Well this is typical, because this is an LM4 block, it's going to be just different enough to cause issues...case in point the dipstick tube.

I've been researching and apparently this particular block has no hole for the dipstick tube. Plus this particular vehicle was 4wd so it had the front sump pan.
So I purchased the f body oil pan which came with dipstick and tube, which means the dipstick location will relocate towards the rear of the block. Which is a good thing because with the current setup, my Dirty Dingo engine mounts hit the dipstick tube.

Now I just need to figure out exactly where to drill a hole and what size. Anybody else dealing with issues like this?

Re: LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan
 

You don't need to order the o-ring or the gasket. They come with the pan/pick up tube. Just picked all of my parts up at the dealer. $340 with tax.

Re: LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan
 

OK, so I was looking around my motor over the weekend and I hope I located some good news.

Some people have said there should be a provision for the dipstick tube on the block, but the hole needs to be drilled.

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I'm hoping this is the location of where I need to drill the hole for the dipstick with my new F Body oil pan. Am I correct? It's located right behind the front of the starter. If it is the location, then hopefully the dipstick tube won't interfere with any wiring or something and all will fit.

Re: LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan
 

Yes, that is the spot, you can compare it to the pic I posted earlier. The hole, although probably metric is really close to 3/8, so a bit that size should work. The O ring on the dipstick will seal it. Drill with a smaller bit first and work your way up, don't start out with a 3/8 or you probably wont have very good results.

Re: LM7 5.3L to F-body oil pan
 

Thanks ls1nova71 for the info. I had measured the original dipstick hole and came up with 3/8 also, so I'm glad you were able to confirm that.

I'll start with a pilot hole and work my way to the 3/8 bit.

I'm planning to do that this weekend while I swap out oil pans.

Good that's one hurdle that's been cleared now!