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dieseldawg142 01-07-2013 10:08 AM

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after shouting at my wife in our crewcab for years, i finally decided to see if i could make it more livable. a big part of the problem- headers with 3" pipes & flowmasters, 38.5 swamps, & custom deluxe trim, a piece of jute & rubber floormat & nothing else.
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dieseldawg142 01-07-2013 10:30 AM

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after ripping out the interior, found the factory jute rusted to the floor

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in good shape in the rear

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next up, get it in the garage (also have to unbolt the garage door)

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dieseldawg142 01-07-2013 10:50 AM

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have to trim around t-case shifter, my case is dropped for the lift, also filled some holes in dash.want to talk holes? 18 in roof (safari rack), 54 asst. holes in bed & box, 12 around the shifter,(had a console & fire ext. mounted there), 8 in rear of cab (assorted stereo equip.), 14 in dash, look at the top of the front fender-18 non stock holes (guess the prev. owner could'nt decide where to put that antenna)

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trim & fill t-case

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darn shop is to small-off with the doors
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bnoon 01-07-2013 10:52 AM

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LOVE the lightweight racing seat! :lol:

exfordman 01-07-2013 11:10 AM

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this will be good subscribed!

comegetsome2003 01-07-2013 11:20 AM

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So whats your plans to get it quieter? Its something i need to look into myself
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dieseldawg142 01-07-2013 11:31 AM

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filled the hole & stripped & painted floor & rockers with 3 coats por15 plus 2 coats chassis black as well on rockers.also laid in some fatmat & new wiring for the seats, console, amps, subs, & speakers

86c20 01-07-2013 11:39 AM

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my 6.2 was so f-ing loud it was dumb. i got some of that sound pil and stick then the pading and then the rubber flooring. also whent in the doors and did some spray under coat. new shifter boot. sounds good now but need felts

dieseldawg142 01-07-2013 11:43 AM

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now i'm laying in some closed cell foam. glued this to the fatmat with 3m spray adhesive

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now the real big part of noise reduction- mass loaded vinyl, & yes it's heavy, just over a pound per sq. ft & i have 100sqf. i also glued it down & taped the seams. this stuff is heavy, but suprisingly flexible

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dieseldawg142 01-07-2013 11:49 AM

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yeah bnoon, should have left the drivers seat in untill i got it in the shop.
keep reading comegetsome, my computer skills suck ( 1 finger typer), so i'm a little slow

dieseldawg142 01-07-2013 12:08 PM

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what i thought would be the easiest part turned into the hardest. because we use our crew to haul our camper & quads, carpet was out of the question, so i picked up a new vinyl mat from ACC. it's 2 1/2 times as thick as the stock rubber, awesome quality, but laying it down in the winter (even with a propane shop heater) is a chore it's so stiff. i spent a week with a commercial heat gun getting it to lay reasonably flat.

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time to put the interior back together. it is green & tan, but i'm going to go tan & black as i can afford it.seats going back in
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LEEVON 01-07-2013 12:21 PM

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Looks great, I'm curious about the results. Where did you get the closed cell foam and mass loaded vinyl?

dieseldawg142 01-07-2013 12:30 PM

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Looks great, I'm curious about the results. Where did you get the closed cell foam and mass loaded vinyl?

bought it at the SOUND ISOLATION STORE, sorry, i don't know how to load links, $120 for a 100 sq ft roll, & did i mention heavy?-$60 to ship

dieseldawg142 01-07-2013 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 86c20 (Post 5801652)
my 6.2 was so f-ing loud it was dumb. i got some of that sound pil and stick then the pading and then the rubber flooring. also whent in the doors and did some spray under coat. new shifter boot. sounds good now but need felts

the fatmat is more for panel resonance, the foam & mlv are the real ticket to block noise. i also sprayed some expanding foam in the roof, (don't have a headliner to cover anything), & if you look at the fatmat pic's, you will see i also put a second shifter boot out of a dakota, as well as the new hurst boot on the t-case shifter, (205 whine at 55), & had some extra mlv, so i doubled it up on the front floor, also re seam sealed all panels, plus a piece of jute that came with the floormat.i'll see how it goes when i'm done, but with what i had, anything should be a big improvement

dieseldawg142 01-07-2013 01:10 PM

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my doors, like the rest of the truck, have some extra holes to weld up before anything else. once i got that addressed, por15, fatmat, & mlv in them
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i'm hoping by the time there done, my new black dashpad will be here

dieseldawg142 01-07-2013 01:44 PM

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a couple of posts back i screwed up. i meant to say i want to change my interior to GREEN & black, not tan & black. that being said, i tried my hand at painting plastic for the first time. my console used to be tan, now it's

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in my never ending quest for quietness, i lined the cup holders & inside with rubber to keep our pop & keys & stuff from rattling.also for the sake of quiet, i put a cig. lighter outlet in it so the kid can plug his video games in (works better then duct tape!). if i can scrape up some money for armrests, i think i'll paint the door panels to

Hulk Will Smash 01-07-2013 02:21 PM

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What seats are those in the rear? That's exactly what I've been looking for. And custom brakets or are they stock from something? Thanks!
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Rubble 01-07-2013 04:13 PM

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Great job,dieseldawg!! When your done,can I send my crew down to you!! It's not lifted yet,so will fit into your garage easier....
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dieseldawg142 01-07-2013 05:46 PM

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What seats are those in the rear? That's exactly what I've been looking for. And custom brakets or are they stock from something? Thanks!
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ahem, cough, cough, let me clear my throat, their leather, power, heated, king ranch seats out of a ford,- but they were CHEAP & in perfect shape. those are stock brackets. there's 6 bolts (4 on the 60, 2 on the 40), the 2 fronts hit the factory holes, the 2 back ones missed by a couple inches, made some quick 3/16 brackets, & the 2 middle ones i had to drill out. they do go threw the factory cab support like the other ones, but i also put 3/16 fish plates on them as well

dieseldawg142 01-07-2013 06:00 PM

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Great job,dieseldawg!! When your done,can I send my crew down to you!! It's not lifted yet,so will fit into your garage easier....
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hey, thanks rubble. i was actually just wandering in alt. tinkerings admiring pickup67man's awesome garage. i'm hoping to build something similar but a little smaller, then small or tall, bring them all!

LEEVON 01-07-2013 07:02 PM

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Don't sweat it. There is another guy in this very forum with King Ranch seats in his truck, can't remember who. They look great though.

Hulk Will Smash 01-07-2013 07:14 PM

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You guys just made my day... My kids are just about big enough to get out of their booster seats and I've been plotting on how I'd make myself some rear headrests to protect them in the event I got hit in the back. That seat is perfect. Thanks and keep up the great looking work!
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dieseldawg142 01-07-2013 07:53 PM

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You guys just made my day... My kids are just about big enough to get out of their booster seats and I've been plotting on how I'd make myself some rear headrests to protect them in the event I got hit in the back. That seat is perfect. Thanks and keep up the great looking work!
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they flip up & fold down too. i dont know if you can see the booster seat marks still on the 40, my kid gave his up last yr. and him & his friends are pretty much the only ones who sit back there, so it was gr. 8 all the way. like i said, they were cheap, a couple of hours labor for them was the price & their worlds above the old clapped benches that were in it

bnoon 01-08-2013 11:27 AM

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Nice job! I sound deadened my Silverado SS with MLV on the floors too, but the biggest improvements by far came from doing the cab's back wall and roof with the Dynamat. Before I learned about MLV I used lead sheet that's usually used to line hospital walls in their x-ray rooms. Same idea as MLV, maybe just a bit heavier, but quite a bit harder to get to lay flat.

motornut 01-08-2013 11:28 AM

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sounds like it will be quiet for sure,nice!

dieseldawg142 01-08-2013 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bnoon (Post 5803909)
Nice job! I sound deadened my Silverado SS with MLV on the floors too, but the biggest improvements by far came from doing the cab's back wall and roof with the Dynamat. Before I learned about MLV I used lead sheet that's usually used to line hospital walls in their x-ray rooms. Same idea as MLV, maybe just a bit heavier, but quite a bit harder to get to lay flat.

thanks, i wish i had a headliner, would have done it to, so i took out the dome lite & visors & roof brace screws & shot some expanding foam in there. i'm hopeing with a "tub" of deadner & mlv from the windows down it wont be to bad. when you banged on the body anywhere it was like twaang, now it's a dead sounding thunk. my buddy who is real old skool ( & a cheapie) thought i should use lead (we're in the roofing industry-easy access),but like you say, weight, i'm already 7800lbs

dieseldawg142 01-08-2013 01:36 PM

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sounds like it will be quiet for sure,nice!

i should be able to hear myself think now! living in the mountains, going up big hills was a real ear drum breaker. you know your loud when people passing you are covering their ears!

cleansquare 03-10-2013 09:24 PM

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subd!

dieseldawg142 03-11-2013 01:58 AM

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some updates
prev. owner installed different mirrors. somehow he could not utilize any of the existing 6 holes(sigh,bang head). the top 2 holes he drilled were fine as they went threw the mirror brace, the 3rd one on the bottom was unsupported & the metal was ripped an inch on each side of the hole. welded up & bondo'ed the holes & tears, also put a 8" long piece of flatbar on the insides of the ripped holes to support the mirrors better, especially with my camper clip-ons

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sound deadner & mlv installed in doors
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rear pass. door had serious dent in it with poor body work, outer skin was coming off the door, found a rust free '77 sub door. had to slightly bend rod to fit the inside handle from my '85, also, sadly had to cut speaker hole in virgin metal so it would match the other p.o. installed door speakers(siiiigh!!)
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dieseldawg142 03-11-2013 02:15 AM

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splashed some woodland(forest ranger) green on it for now

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finally got my new dash & some billet to bling it up. also painted my kick panels black

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cant afford over $200 bucks for new sills right now, cleaned up the old ones for now. dirty/clean
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dieseldawg142 03-11-2013 03:06 AM

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also fixed & added a few things. bought a receiver tube, welded some plate on it & mounted it on the front.will be used to haul our bicycles when camping. with literally 1 inch of clearance on each side, i can now drive the quad trailer into the garage instead of backing in as well

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got rid of old weird camper plug & added modern 7 pin
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fuel gauge took a crap & went to 3:00 last fall
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looking better now. sender wire got sliced by a clamp
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INSIDIOUS '86 03-11-2013 03:09 AM

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Have you tried lining the inside of the doors with sound deadner? Them things beat like a drum with sound and road noise. Prob the worst other than the back of the cab and the floor.
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dieseldawg142 03-11-2013 03:33 AM

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yeah i did, the whole inside of the doors are deadened plus mlv on top of it. when you tap the doors now, it's a SOLID thunk. cant wait to hear how my stereo sounds. just ditched the brake load sensing stuff, re-plumbed the lines, need to bleed them, also cant put my driver's side doors on till i get it out of the shop. my dd insur. is due this tuesday as well, so i'm hoping to have it on the road in a couple weeks. then see if all this pays off

piecesparts 03-11-2013 04:54 AM

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One last thing to consider for sound deadening. Lizardskin, think about it.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/liz-50115/overview/

LizardSkin Sound Control Formula is a high tech coating that stops the vibration of sound waves coming from a surface before they enter the air. LizardSkin Sound Control can be used with LizardSkin ceramic insulation, when used together LizardSkin Sound Control must be applied first. Now you can achieve the maximum in sound and noise reduction greatly enhancing your audio system. Typical applications include firewalls, floor pans, transmission tunnels, doors, hoods, trunk lids, under headliners, inside fenders, panel van walls and other areas that generate vibration and noise. For maximum acoustic performance, coat entire interior surface and the floor inside and out. LizardSkin is completely water soluble, meaning easy clean-up with just soap and water. Each 2-gallon container covers 46-50 square feet with .025-.040 in. thickness.

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dieseldawg142 03-11-2013 05:00 AM

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doubt this will help quietness, but oh well. 28 yr old rubber b.mounts were not looking good(as well as some cab lean). hardware cleaned up nice with some new gr.8 bolts.

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also ditched this mess(brake load sensor), re-run new lines

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79Betty 03-11-2013 06:15 AM

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Niiice.
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mrhino 03-11-2013 09:09 AM

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It looks good. Seats look goo too

Gordonr1973 03-11-2013 01:09 PM

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Very nice work!!

dieseldawg142 03-12-2013 01:02 AM

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thanks guys

nheller76 08-25-2013 03:11 PM

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Wow man this looks great
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