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DeadheadNM 01-07-2013 05:55 PM

Anyone rebuilt an OEM sliding rear window?
 
Need some direction as to how to and where to go for parts to rebuild a factory sliding rear window. I'll need the weather stripping and rubber pieces that were installed in the corners. Appreciate any help. Thanks.

Ironhorse 01-07-2013 07:34 PM

Re: Anyone rebuilt an OEM sliding rear window?
 
Pete, I'm no help but interested also for same answers. Have a factory slider in a '70 I'm slowly parting and it has some same issues sos wanna' subscribe on this.

Undone 01-07-2013 07:35 PM

Re: Anyone rebuilt an OEM sliding rear window?
 
Also interested!

sanford&daughter 01-07-2013 07:46 PM

Re: Anyone rebuilt an OEM sliding rear window?
 
Has anyone called there local glass shop to see if they can get the stripping ? Just an idea it may be worth it

DeadheadNM 01-07-2013 08:04 PM

Re: Anyone rebuilt an OEM sliding rear window?
 
Welcome aboard! The weatherstripping can be had I suspect. Here's a possible source though I have yet to check actual measurements:

http://afproducts.automotivefairchil...-run-channels?

I need to track down the rubber "sweeps" that have a "T" shaped part which slides into a channel on the screw-affixed vertical metal "posts" and an "O" shaped part that provides the seal between the mobile glass pane and the fixed glass pane. I guess pics would help!

rmmurphy 01-07-2013 08:08 PM

Re: Anyone rebuilt an OEM sliding rear window?
 
I didnt know they were an option. I assume i just look at the spid?

DeadheadNM 01-07-2013 08:41 PM

Re: Anyone rebuilt an OEM sliding rear window?
 
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rmmurphy - GM did offer a rear sliding window and trucks so equipped had the option listed on the SPID (A28)

Here's a pic posted by 1969 GMC:

DeadheadNM 01-07-2013 09:02 PM

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I tried a local glass shop (two) and called a local business that installs camper shells and repairs the sliders in these shells with no luck.

First image shows the "sweep" I need to track down:

The sweep inserts into the vertical metal post at the far right of the second image. This post has screws (shown) that attach to the outer frame. The weather stripping and a plastic insert that goes into the bottom of the outer, narrow "C" channel are also shown:

Third pic shows square rubber strips mounted inside the larger inner "C" channel at each corner that function as bumpers to stop the mobile glass. Mine are still surprisingly pliable and don't need to be replaced:

Potential source for a replacement latch: http://www.technologylk.com/__663/cr...t-latches.html

rmmurphy 01-07-2013 09:14 PM

Re: Anyone rebuilt an OEM sliding rear window?
 
i just checked my spid. mines not factory oh well i like it anyway

DeadheadNM 01-08-2013 06:13 PM

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Here's a shot of the screws on the lower corners that secure the frame pieces together and example etching on the glass of a factory rear slider:

Skruffy 01-09-2013 12:29 AM

Re: Anyone rebuilt an OEM sliding rear window?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DeadheadNM (Post 5802628)
rmmurphy - GM did offer a rear sliding window and trucks so equipped had the option listed on the SPID (A28)

Here's a pic posted by 1969 GMC:

I did not know that. So maybe the sliding window I'm selling is factory? It had a topper on it and I just don't remember the SPID.

SCHRUMGMC 01-09-2013 12:31 AM

Re: Anyone rebuilt an OEM sliding rear window?
 
I believe my Grandfathers old truck had that, not sure though

Mister-B 01-09-2013 12:37 AM

Re: Anyone rebuilt an OEM sliding rear window?
 
Why not buy an entire rear sliding window at the junk yard off one of our trucks? I just saw one a couple weeks ago at my local yard. I think it was a 71 gmc
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SCHRUMGMC 01-09-2013 12:38 AM

Re: Anyone rebuilt an OEM sliding rear window?
 
Yeah that would be easier

68gmsee 01-09-2013 09:20 AM

Re: Anyone rebuilt an OEM sliding rear window?
 
Glass on these trucks is an expendable part like a starter, alternator, tires, etc. Won't add or subtract much to the value unless it was a pristine original. I would just fine a good used one or even a new one.

camrycurt 01-09-2013 09:48 AM

Re: Anyone rebuilt an OEM sliding rear window?
 
Subscribed, as I need to do this too. Here's hoping someone can track down a source for the weatherstripping.

JimKshortstep4x4 01-09-2013 11:22 AM

Re: Anyone rebuilt an OEM sliding rear window?
 
I bought the lower seal from my local Glass Shop. I took the old one down and showed them what I needed and they came up with something very close. The seal was $4/foot.

Jim

DeadheadNM 01-09-2013 05:48 PM

Re: Anyone rebuilt an OEM sliding rear window?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JimKshortstep4x4 (Post 5806144)
I bought the lower seal from my local Glass Shop. I took the old one down and showed them what I needed and they came up with something very close. The seal was $4/foot.

Jim

Thanks Jim. I'll try another local glass place. This is an easily rebuildable part (vent windows more of a challenge) if I can track down the "sweeps". In the end I should have a nice tight OEM slider - will buff up the aluminum frame and should look good in my K20 resto.

SCHRUMGMC 01-09-2013 05:56 PM

Re: Anyone rebuilt an OEM sliding rear window?
 
Where they Custom to the trucks ?

DeadheadNM 01-09-2013 06:04 PM

Re: Anyone rebuilt an OEM sliding rear window?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SCHRUMGMC (Post 5806811)
Where they Custom to the trucks ?

Available as a factory installed option (will be on SPID then like my K20) or probably a dealer accessory. With a few exceptions (like adding a 700r4 tranny, bucket seats) I'm trying to keep my build original and use OEM or NOS parts whenever possible. For me, a new slider won't cut it if I can refurbish an original piece and I'm skeptical that a 40 year old rear slider with tight seals and intact glass can be located in a salvage yard anywhere.

SCHRUMGMC 01-09-2013 06:16 PM

Re: Anyone rebuilt an OEM sliding rear window?
 
Makes me wonder if my Grandfathers had it, I cant recall it having one though
Hmmm

Littletony 02-07-2013 01:02 PM

Re: Anyone rebuilt an OEM sliding rear window?
 
Did you ever find the seals for the slider?

2Cav 02-07-2013 04:35 PM

Re: Anyone rebuilt an OEM sliding rear window?
 
The lock on mine is gone, sure would like to find a new clip, or even a new frame if that is what I need.

subscribed!

Jeff

DeadheadNM 02-07-2013 08:38 PM

Re: Anyone rebuilt an OEM sliding rear window?
 
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Originally Posted by Littletony (Post 5873552)
Did you ever find the seals for the slider?

Slow progress but glad you checked in. Here's what I have so far. The grey sweep is OEM. The others I got from the scrap pile of a local glass shop (black - for screen door) or found online (white - from here: http://www.ultrafabsp.com/extruded_products/t-slot.php). The black sweep will hold snug in the T-channel and is in good shape so I'll prob use this one. The base of the "T" on the white sweep is just slightly too wide for the channel and needs a slight shave to fit, but with some small effort could be made to work. It's possible the company may have one that fits perfect, if/when I have time I may consider calling a salesman and sending and/or sending them a sample to match. I'm waiting to have the metal polished before reassembly.

DeadheadNM 02-07-2013 08:40 PM

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Another local glass wholesaler gave me a length of weatherstrip that's not a perfect match but should should work fine with a bit of Super 77 or other adhesive to keep it snug.

DeadheadNM 02-07-2013 08:49 PM

Re: Anyone rebuilt an OEM sliding rear window?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Cav (Post 5873933)
The lock on mine is gone, sure would like to find a new clip, or even a new frame if that is what I need.

subscribed!

Jeff

Aftermarket pieces are available. Not an OEM match but they work. Last one I got was from Mike's Bump and Grind Garage, now out of business I believe. I'd call Wes at Classic Heartbeat or try another board vender.

70cst 02-07-2013 10:29 PM

Re: Anyone rebuilt an OEM sliding rear window?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DeadheadNM (Post 5874434)
Aftermarket pieces are available. Not an OEM match but they work. Last one I got was from Mike's Bump and Grind Garage, now out of business I believe. I'd call Wes at Classic Heartbeat or try another board vender.

If one is patient one might try and find a slider that is cheap and buy it for parts.

Littletony 02-07-2013 10:57 PM

Re: Anyone rebuilt an OEM sliding rear window?
 
Looks good, I cant wait until you get it back together. If everything is tight and leak free I will by me a slider and do the same thing. Thank you for posting this up for everyone.

A-B Slinger 02-07-2013 11:22 PM

Re: Anyone rebuilt an OEM sliding rear window?
 
My 80 K10 has the rear slider. The local auto glass shop here in Lewiston had the upper and lower sweeps. Perfect match. They also had the catch assembly. Another perfect match. If I remember correctly these two items came to around 20 bucks. The rubber between the two glass panels came from the RV shop here in Clarkston. Perfect match and free at that.
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bobs409 02-08-2013 08:25 AM

Re: Anyone rebuilt an OEM sliding rear window?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DeadheadNM (Post 5806822)
I'm skeptical that a 40 year old rear slider with tight seals and intact glass can be located in a salvage yard anywhere.

I hear that. You'll just end up with another one that needs new seals. :D

owner 84 05-04-2013 12:27 PM

Re: Anyone rebuilt an OEM sliding rear window?
 
Anyone has done rebuilding his sliding window? After all discussion.

What model of sliding woindow?
What website did you buy from?
What is the spesific size or number of product?
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owner 84 05-04-2013 12:35 PM

Re: Anyone rebuilt an OEM sliding rear window?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DeadheadNM (Post 5802681)
I tried a local glass shop (two) and called a local business that installs camper shells and repairs the sliders in these shells with no luck.

First image shows the "sweep" I need to track down:

The sweep inserts into the vertical metal post at the far right of the second image. This post has screws (shown) that attach to the outer frame. The weather stripping and a plastic insert that goes into the bottom of the outer, narrow "C" channel are also shown:

Third pic shows square rubber strips mounted inside the larger inner "C" channel at each corner that function as bumpers to stop the mobile glass. Mine are still surprisingly pliable and don't need to be replaced:

Potential source for a replacement latch: http://www.technologylk.com/__663/cr...t-latches.html


Can you tell the PART NO for each one?
How many inches did you need?
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DeadheadNM 05-04-2013 12:40 PM

Re: Anyone rebuilt an OEM sliding rear window?
 
Sorry no more progress on my end yet - have been way too busy but my schedule is slowly easing up. I've posted all the details I have so far as regards the specific parts. I will finish this. I have to for my K20 build (link in signature below) and will post here once I'm back on the job. It's getting the right rubber parts that's the challenge - the slider is easy to assemble/disassemble.

MW826 06-20-2013 06:55 PM

Re: Anyone rebuilt an OEM sliding rear window?
 
Does anyone have the part number or company of the OE latch? I always thought my slider was aftermarket, but now I'm not sure, maybe just my latch. It was built by SouthCo Lester Pa. The rest of the window looks too contoured to be aftermarket.

DeadheadNM 06-20-2013 07:21 PM

Re: Anyone rebuilt an OEM sliding rear window?
 
These are/were available - I got one a while ago from Mike's Bump and Grind Garage - not sure the company is currently in business. Maybe Wes at Classic Heartbeat would have an idea?

70shortfleet 06-20-2013 08:26 PM

Re: Anyone rebuilt an OEM sliding rear window?
 
If I remember correctly that latch was used on numerous years after 1972 and was still available from GM the last time I got one. I have 2 maybe 3 factory sliders up in my attic! ;)

DeadheadNM 09-27-2013 01:17 PM

Re: Anyone rebuilt an OEM sliding rear window?
 
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Finally completed the slider rebuild and it works well (pics installed on my K20). However, the vertical aluminum trim/handles had to be re-attached with silicone so I have concerns about long term longevity. As a consequence. I open the slider windows using the firmly affixed midline trim where the latch pieces attach. Who knows, it may hold up for a long time. The white weatherstrip shown in post #24 worked fine but I had to shave the base of the molding's "T" with a scalpel in order for it to fit inside the trim channel. Even with that, the fit was snug so I used Windex along the channel and inserted a dowel inside the wstrip to apply force along its long axis so as not to pull it out of the channel. The chunky rubber corner blocks (ex. on last pic post #8) cleaned up real well and honestly look fresh.


As an aside, I had rear window trim installed with the slider but GM shipped slider-equipped trucks without the rear window trim.

Lemield 09-27-2013 03:00 PM

Re: Anyone rebuilt an OEM sliding rear window?
 
Wow Pete...truck and slider window look really nice.:metal:

68shortstep 09-27-2013 04:36 PM

Re: Anyone rebuilt an OEM sliding rear window?
 
Try a local "aluminum products," & storm windows, & window replacements store. Auto glass shops probably wouldn't have the same kinds of weatherstripping on hand.

I had a siding, guttering & window replacement & storm window business for many years, & we had rolls & rolls of lotsa (dozen or more) different styles of similar weatherstripping that I kept on hand to do repairs. Had what looked to be a twin for the compressible tube weatherstripping in the photos. Not an uncommon type at all. Shouldn't be too hard to find.

If it wants to slip out after installed, "stake-it" into place near the bottom of the track - we always used a small straight tipped screw driver to punch down (lightly) the sides of the track that the bottom (T-part) slides in. That stops it from sliding down / falling out when the sun gets on it & softens the rubber & stretches the aluminum track a little bit.

Dave Ellis
Mtn Home, AR

bigmac73 09-27-2013 04:56 PM

Re: Anyone rebuilt an OEM sliding rear window?
 
is the outside gasket/seal the same as the regular glass, i noticed that they are not listed in any catalog, for a slider


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