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logansdad 01-14-2013 08:35 PM

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I finally made it home, 180 miles ---4.5 hours. I thought I was going to put my F150 on the trailer and tow it with the Burb. I was happy to know this is a one owner truck and all original (for now). Yes a true suburban barn find. It even has the manual in the original bag. When I got it off the trailer I started working to get it running properly i.e. carb rebuild. then I gave her a good bath. The engine and trans will be the only thing I sell

Plans are as follows:
  • Keep middle and rear seats change front to custome buckets and console
  • have my eye on2009 lq9 6.0 and transmission
  • Gear vendor! yes it will have 8 speeds
  • PB suspension
  • Front and rear A.C. (may need some input on that)
  • custome two tone paint (something different)

I called PB today and explained what I wanted to do I had three things that they needed to work araound for the suspention. I want to be as low as possible and still keep the third seat ( I would be okay if it was raised) I also tow a trailer. I'm installing the gear vendor.

vectorit 01-14-2013 08:40 PM

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Very cool!
Let's see more detailed pictures of your new old burb!

You could take the seat brackets off the seat, and then mount it to the raised floor so it isn't sitting so high. (Hold onto the brackets though, they are pretty hard to come by).

klmore 01-14-2013 08:43 PM

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Great find. More pics!
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logansdad 01-14-2013 09:01 PM

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Very cool!
Let's see more detailed pictures of your new old burb!

You could take the seat brackets off the seat, and then mount it to the raised floor so it isn't sitting so high. (Hold onto the brackets though, they are pretty hard to come by).

Good idea, one that I will use, and PB said the same thing

klmore 01-14-2013 10:28 PM

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Sound like we are doing similar projects. Looking forward to see your Sub come together.

dogpound 01-15-2013 08:13 PM

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Nice find for a great build congrates. What is a gear vendor?Does the old motor run good. If so what r u going to do with it?Iam about two and a half hours south o u. Keep the pics comeing.:chevy:

logansdad 01-15-2013 09:57 PM

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First off let me take care of the gear vendor question. My brother has one in his 1997 F350 4 door longbed 4x4 with 38" tires 7.3 powerstroke he gets on average over 22 MPG it turns his trans into an eight speed. I had this Idea before to do before anything else. http://www.gearvendors.com/ Stacy David put one in "Copperhead"

Yes the motor does run fine I just spent some time with my dad on rebuilding/cleaning the carb and adding an inline fuel filter. According to PO motor was rebuilt about 20k ago and the trans had new seals installed at the same time. I will be removing them soon and they both along with radiator will be for sale on here and CL. Dogpound if you are interested throw me a number for them both. I need some body panel money!!!

Splash4195 01-16-2013 11:38 PM

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Nice Build!

logansdad 01-21-2013 12:31 AM

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So it starts.... I ordered parts, and took off the front end. Found the bad news of how bad the radiator support is. I ran out of time today or that engine and trans was next. Is their anyone who sells the back hatch new? I really need another one or a really good used one.

Going to go pick up all those bags of sand and ospho to rid all the rust

Number98 01-21-2013 12:15 PM

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Looks like a good starting point, I will have to follow along with this one...

logansdad 01-27-2013 10:46 PM

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so we have seperation and the frame is off to garage to remove all the suspension

5150 01-27-2013 11:25 PM

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Unfortunately, nobody makes a repop hatch for these. You'll have to look for one for sale.

logansdad 01-29-2013 11:26 PM

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somethings missing....oh yeah a porterbuilt mild drop front and rear

logansdad 01-31-2013 11:01 PM

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So I thought I lived in a town that was suburban free but boy was I wrong when I looked in my rear view mirror to see, maybe, the best looking ambulance suburban ever.I literally stopped traffic to talk to the ownerAttachment 1052782

sunk99 02-01-2013 09:12 AM

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I'll be watching you're build, nice find.

logansdad 02-02-2013 10:48 PM

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Got the frame sandblasted and primed today with help from Dad and his "secret" rust prevention primer. At the price of that stuff I thought it would have gold flake in it. Anyways I was very pleased with the how it turned out.
I need help on frame colors. I know it's a little soon without having the PB installed but I'm at a loss on what to do for color. I want the frame and suspension to stand out and be different from the truck color so if anyone has any sugestions or good pics bring them on.

project 67 sub 02-02-2013 11:15 PM

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a combination of black/silver would look good :)

VA72C10 02-02-2013 11:22 PM

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Sounds like a great project!

logansdad 02-05-2013 11:49 PM

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a combination of black/silver would look good :)

I was going to go that route on the burb's exterior wanted a little something off the normal. So ask and you shall recieve... Went to a garage sale today at an airplane hanger and found a one gallon can of DuPont imron bright blue
and bought it for $10.00.

Alright so I have two next steps now (1) move cab on body flipper and start rust repair/ body work, (2)figure out a budget for the front and rear mild drop member$$$

logansdad 02-17-2013 10:58 PM

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Been a little busy to post some new pics of the burban progress in a while so here you go. I was very fortunate to have a body flipper which will make panel and floor replacement as easy as possible. That along with a old school lenco panel spotter (who's cables weigh approx 5 million lb's)and of course a plasma cutter.

On a different note I may splurge a little on the engine and transmission. That ls3 package is looking better and better every day http://www.jegs.com/p/Chevrolet-Perf...22872/10002/-1 has anyone on here done this install yet?

jmedero 02-23-2013 06:21 PM

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Love the FL Burb projects. Looking good man.
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hotrodchevy1999 02-23-2013 10:42 PM

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That ls3 package from jegs is pretty sweet looking

CG 03-03-2013 06:10 PM

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That ls3 package from jegs is pretty sweet looking

I'll say, but man is it pricey.

logansdad 03-12-2013 09:54 PM

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So work got in the way and the burb got pushed on the back burner. I had some time today to remove everything else in the cab. Those seats were a blast to remove with all the 40+ years of road gunk and a splash of concrete on all the bolts under the wood floor. Kinda tough to heat them with a torch and not burn the wood.

so this project is going to be started and done simultaneously with burban!!! 1955 chevy truck. Picked this up about 5-6 years ago with dad with plans to make it 4x4, but we both agree 2wd and slammed to the ground on air bags looks and sounds better:metal:

capev86 03-12-2013 11:32 PM

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Gear Vendors sucks....costs tons of money plus all that custom fab work required and the o/d ratio isn't very good (that's why Copperhead was still turning 2500rpm at 60). these really belong under a motor home or in a vehicle that is always towing heavy loads where the extra power and gear splitting is most useful. otherwise just a modern overdrive trans and moderate rear axle will net you the best mpg. my dad's 87 burb c10 didn't really lose any mpg going from a 3.08 to 3.73 (soft gear made for a lot of shift hunting) and his current 99 burb c1500 350 w/ 3.42 rear gets 22mpg on the highway.


i see no reason to change when the original 307 in my 72 Burb C20 runs so beautifully (thanks to a Petronix kit and a Q-jet swap). but those modern LS engines are awesome and you can't beat fuel injection on cross country trips (carbs don't automatically adjust to altitude changes). i'd love to stick the 4" stroker crank from a z06 motor in a 5.3 for the best balance of pulling power and economy.

logansdad 03-13-2013 07:19 AM

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[QUOTE=capev86;5943735]Gear Vendors sucks....costs tons of money plus all that custom fab work required and the o/d ratio isn't very good (that's why Copperhead was still turning 2500rpm at 60). these really belong under a motor home or in a vehicle that is always towing heavy loads where the extra power and gear splitting is most useful. otherwise just a modern overdrive trans and moderate rear axle will net you the best mpg. my dad's 87 burb c10 didn't really lose any mpg going from a 3.08 to 3.73 (soft gear made for a lot of shift hunting) and his current 99 burb c1500 350 w/ 3.42 rear gets 22mpg on the highway.


i see no reason to change when the original 307 in my 72 Burb C20 runs so beautifully (thanks to a Petronix kit and a Q-jet swap). but those modern LS engines are awesome and you can't beat fuel injection on cross country trips (carbs don't automatically adjust to altitude changes). i'd love to stick the 4" stroker crank from a z06 motor in a 5.3 for the best balance of pulling power and economy.[/QUOTE
Im sorry you feel that way about the gear vendor. I know first hand the usefulness these units have. The only fab work is shortening the drive shaft it bolts up to the transmission. As far as more gears equals more mpgs just take the new dodge truck with an8 speed that gets 25 mpg. Do you think that would happen with a 4 speed? I will be towing approx 10k cross country but live in flat country Florida. Having 8 speeds will improve my particular situation maybe not for everyone.

Copperhead also was a 3 speed with a low rear gear made to smoke the back tires. Not to save gas and daily drive.
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POS1 03-13-2013 07:04 PM

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I don't thnk GVs sucks, but I'm building the same truck you are - kid hauler, reliable, comfy inside. My 350 runs great, so I have a hard time spending $$ on a new engine, so I'm gonna spend it now on interior. Climate control will clearly be the biggest issue, but I haven't heard a great solution yet. I will get FI on it at some point though, just not sure how yet.

What are you planning for seats and climate control?
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logansdad 03-13-2013 10:06 PM

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I don't thnk GVs sucks, but I'm building the same truck you are - kid hauler, reliable, comfy inside. My 350 runs great, so I have a hard time spending $$ on a new engine, so I'm gonna spend it now on interior. Climate control will clearly be the biggest issue, but I haven't heard a great solution yet. I will get FI on it at some point though, just not sure how yet.

What are you planning for seats and climate control?
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Seats- I'm keeping the back and middle seats and recovering them with a black leather suede combo. The back seat will need to be narrowed b/c of the tub, and the brackets removed to lay flat on the new floor height. As far as the front seats I would love to have some escalade buckets with console.

Climate control-I have two options

Option 1- have two seperate units using one condersor and compressor. Located under dash and in spare tire location in back. the back a.c. would have vents located in roof. Old air products gave me this Look at part number CAP-7211-I for the front unit and IP-2000T or IP-2005T for the rear unit. I would rather have a digital controller

Option 2- Have one a.c. system and run vents in floor to back seat locations.

logansdad 04-22-2013 08:18 PM

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been a while since I posted anything new so here's some pics of rocker replacement. I had ordered the rocker for the 3rd door but was on back order. Good thing that one was in the best shape. I found out the drivers side rear quarter wasn't replaced, it was recapped for a lack of better term. Right at the horizontal roll off the door handle the quarter stuck out over 3/8".
I took the plasma cutter and cut a horizontal line only after removing the spot welds in the door jam and took the raised quarter down to fitting the door. I can't wait to strip that down to bare metal and see where else it is seemed together.

logansdad 05-04-2013 08:29 PM

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I always wanted to do this to a truck with the 93 and back deville tail lights but they we're too long for the burb so I'm going wit the 94-99 deville L.E.D lights. I had to think about placement, and I like that these lights will curve with the edge of the quarter after I trim the extra off of the bezel. I also ordered a roll pan from Grant Kustoms and it should be here by Tuesday. I had thought about making one but for $200.00, and I know it will fit, is a better deal.

jmedero 05-04-2013 09:24 PM

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The roll pan is Burb specific?
I've thought about putting truck bed lower rear sections on the Burb then using the truck roll pan.
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logansdad 05-04-2013 09:27 PM

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The roll pan is Burb specific?
I've thought about putting truck bed lower rear sections on the Burb then using the truck roll pan.
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Yes they made one to fit up to my tailgate hinges I will post pics when I get it
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logansdad 05-11-2013 08:44 PM

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after looking at the taillight a few days I lowered it back down to fit in the flat area of the original space. And here is the new roll pan from Grant Kustoms. This thing fits like a glove for the suburban!!!!! very happy with the professional sevice and product of this company:metal:

twistedchevy 02-23-2015 12:28 AM

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