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sigshooter 02-23-2013 07:54 PM

Removed the patina from my 65
 
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I sprayed some cheap paint on my 65 to cover and stop the rust ( some call patina ) . What do you guys think?

This is one light coat, I plan on another coat and a light buff, not looking for show quality but to stop rust and be a 20 footer so I am not so embaressed to drive it.

I plan on doing the entire truck, the door and fender was just a trial run to see how it would look

rifraz 02-23-2013 08:13 PM

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Personally, I would have left the patina. For me, the original look is beautiful. Rust and all. My way of thinking isn't for everyone. Did you do any metal prep before the paint? Even a rattle bomb can turn out nice work with the right prep. If not, the rust will return...
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DURG 02-23-2013 08:41 PM

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I would have left it. But it's yours so you have earned the right to do anything you want with the truck.

maxwoof 02-23-2013 08:47 PM

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If the rest of the truck comes out as good as the door and fender, you are in. Go for it.
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hopped up 02-23-2013 08:50 PM

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Looks good sig!! Love that color
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jayoldschool 02-23-2013 08:55 PM

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I think it looks great both ways! White roof and side trim would really set it off, too...

Reyals Bemus 02-23-2013 08:56 PM

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I have to agree with the other guys - I think you should've left the patina. But your truck is super nice either way!

Realnoisy 02-23-2013 09:14 PM

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You can always take a gallon of thinner and remove the "cheap paint" to get the patina back. Mine was covered in gray primer (thank you PO for protecting it for me!). Took me about a gallon of thinner to remove it all.

sigshooter 02-23-2013 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jayoldschool (Post 5908393)
I think it looks great both ways! White roof and side trim would really set it off, too...

That is the plan, two tone and chrome. I want to strip it and do it right one day.... But it is just not in the budget the way I want to do it. So for now it is cheap and enjoy driving it
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theastronaut 02-23-2013 09:17 PM

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Shoulda left it. It'll look just like all the other restored trucks when you're finished!

sigshooter 02-23-2013 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by theastronaut (Post 5908450)
Shoulda left it. It'll look just like all the other restored trucks when you're finished!

Maybe on another one..... This was Grandads truck so I want to completely restore it one day, until then I am grinning ear to ear just driving it around and remembering Gramps.

rifraz 02-23-2013 10:24 PM

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I can relate and totally understand the "build to remember". I am building my 66 gmc short step to remember my grandpa. It's not gonna have the patina, its gonna be pearl white metallic and be on sir ride. Not exactly like the one grandpa had, just a good combination of the two of us. Looking good.
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broey 02-23-2013 10:27 PM

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there are plenty of patina'd trucks out there. paint it. looks good so far.

Jeff La 02-23-2013 11:23 PM

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Looking good, I'm with you on trying to protect something sentimental as gramp's truck.

slepysal 02-23-2013 11:29 PM

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Patina, Patina..... one mans eye sore, anothers mans goal. Rust to some gold to others.
I take it your not a fan of the latest trend?
Your truck looks great There is nothing wrong with it either way.
"You know what I think?... It dont mater what I think....... " I love that line from Black Hawk down.
Build it your way !!

joe750 02-24-2013 12:13 AM

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what brand/color paint did you use?
Looks good btw
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markeb01 02-24-2013 12:14 AM

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I think the new paint is a great improvement if it’s on a truck you want to drive and preserve.

I understand the popularity of patina. Repainting an old rustic barn would likely ruin its intrinsic and perhaps historic beauty. I just don’t happen to share the same enthusiasm when it comes to old cars and trucks, unless they are going to serve as yard art (which I fully admire and appreciate).

In the time period I grew up a big part of restoring/fixing up a car was making it look better than before or perhaps even better than when it was brand new. High gloss shiny paint was essential to owning a cool car. Hot rod red or black primer was also acceptable as it indicated a work in progress.

Many of the old cars I bought years ago had what is now admired as patina. What I really liked about worn out paint was the lack of fresh paint likely to be covering up rust or poor body work. I was thankful for having an honest surface hiding no sins. The thin/dull surface also made it easy to sand down and repaint with new materials, knowing there wouldn’t be any surprises underneath.

When I do see a nice looking truck with patina, my only hope is the owner has taken some measures to preserve it as is, rather than allowing uncontrolled further deterioration.

I can’t remember how many times I wanted to buy a neglected vintage vehicle only to be told “It’s not for sale, I’m going to fix it up someday”. And it never was. And decades later it had deteriorated so far it wasn’t even restorable. Upon reflection I think that is why I’m not much of a patina fan.

rifraz 02-24-2013 12:23 AM

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Very good point. Atleast clear over the patina to preserve it.
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Realnoisy 02-24-2013 09:01 AM

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I have gone through the total restore and spent thousands of dollars on beautiful paint jobs only to have my heart broken when careless people door ding it, rock chips etc... Not to mention always worrying about the paint.

Now when someone door dings it, I'm like "Wow...that looks kwel!" :)

ChrisDollins 02-24-2013 09:37 AM

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I like it. Just take your time with prep work and it will turn out nice. I'm with you on patina. It looks good in pictures or when its someone else's. But I couldn't take to it on my own pickup. I like clean paint.

Chris
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DURG 02-24-2013 10:03 AM

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I have a 62 Impala SS that I am scared to death to bring anywhere near "normal" people in fear of it being damaged. My truck has about a 10 year old paint job which I plan to leave as is because it is going to be a driver I can wheel into the walmart parking lot and not worry about. I do fully agree with the "do what you want because it's yours" theory.

severedchris 02-24-2013 10:09 AM

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do what you want man...its ur truck...i like the look of a 60-66 either way

perro13 02-24-2013 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Realnoisy (Post 5908443)
You can always take a gallon of thinner and remove the "cheap paint" to get the patina back. Mine was covered in gray primer (thank you PO for protecting it for me!). Took me about a gallon of thinner to remove it all.

not out to hijack thread what was the process to taking off primmer.

Realnoisy 02-24-2013 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by perro13 (Post 5909318)
not out to hijack thread what was the process to taking off primmer.

I just bought a gallon of lacquer thinner. I just doused rags in the thinner and wiped off all the primer. You need to use gloves that are chemical resistant and use a mask. Again, use gloves that are chemical resistant and use a mask.

sigshooter 02-24-2013 11:23 AM

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Thanks for all the responses guys... I sprayed a spot on my fender several months ago and it matched pretty well, I was impressed. It was just one light coat and I did not clear it or wax it, over a few months it "faded" and matched dead on with the old chalky looking original blue that was on the truck. I may allow it to fade and get somewhat of a patina look, but I cant look at rust all the time.... The hood has no paint and is just solid surface rust and that drives me crazy!

The truck is very straight, with only a few dings and almost no rot ( fenders are showing signs of rusting thru as well is the driver rocker, but most are rotted and gone )

I plan on using old side chrome that I gather up here and there and just go for a look that appears the truck is just old. I eventually want to do a complete frame off resto, but I have two daughters and my wife in college right now so the budget is very thin.

I also want to enjoy the truck and drive it where ever I want and not worry about chips in the paint for awhile. I am also going to change it over to the big back glass and add all the optional stuff I have gathered for 20 years , so I think this is a good short term solution. It will allow me to continue to cut and drill as time permits without worrying about scratching the paint.... and look pretty good in the process.

I have painted ALOT of things over the years and prep is the key. prep the surface, remove as much as possible to aviod overspray and tape the rest. The key to ANY paint job to make it look nice is details, if it is suppose to be black ( rubber trim ) dont paint it blue or allow overspray to get on it.Paint behind the grille the correct black and white, etc. these kind of details will make or break any paint job. These trucks are so easy to take apart almost anyone can get a nice job if they take their time.

ol_skool_chevy 02-24-2013 11:25 AM

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Personally, I would have left the patina. but................oh well..its gone now...

perro13 02-24-2013 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by sigshooter (Post 5909426)
Thanks for all the responses guys... I sprayed a spot on my fender several months ago and it matched pretty well, I was impressed. It was just one light coat and I did not clear it or wax it, over a few months it "faded" and matched dead on with the old chalky looking original blue that was on the truck. I may allow it to fade and get somewhat of a patina look, but I cant look at rust all the time.... The hood has no paint and is just solid surface rust and that drives me crazy!

The truck is very straight, with only a few dings and almost no rot ( fenders are showing signs of rusting thru as well is the driver rocker, but most are rotted and gone )

I plan on using old side chrome that I gather up here and there and just go for a look that appears the truck is just old. I eventually want to do a complete frame off resto, but I have two daughters and my wife in college right now so the budget is very thin.

I also want to enjoy the truck and drive it where ever I want and not worry about chips in the paint for awhile. I am also going to change it over to the big back glass and add all the optional stuff I have gathered for 20 years , so I think this is a good short term solution. It will allow me to continue to cut and drill as time permits without worrying about scratching the paint.... and look pretty good in the process.

I have painted ALOT of things over the years and prep is the key. prep the surface, remove as much as possible to aviod overspray and tape the rest. The key to ANY paint job to make it look nice is details, if it is suppose to be black ( rubber trim ) dont paint it blue or allow overspray to get on it.Paint behind the grille the correct black and white, etc. these kind of details will make or break any paint job. These trucks are so easy to take apart almost anyone can get a nice job if they take their time.

What brand & color code,name did you use. looking to match a fender on my Burb

rifraz 02-24-2013 12:23 PM

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Very well said.
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jocko 02-24-2013 01:52 PM

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hey sig - i think it turned out very nice- matches well and looks great. completely understand your approach and the way you're going about it.

you mentioned installing the side trim - will you be painting the insert white or something like that? That would look pretty nice imo. Good luck, looks real nice. I like patina too - but I like what you've done better in this case.

flips72 02-24-2013 02:21 PM

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looks good to me, as far as the patina or paint goes i like them both ways as well but it all boils down to what you like and your the one who will be driving it so make yourself happy happy happy.

PoDuck 02-24-2013 04:29 PM

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I think both ways look cool, but personally prefer to be rid of rust. I live in the desert, and our cars don't rust much, so when I see it, it bothers the hell out of me. It's a popular thing to leave the patina lately, but I've never cared much about being popular.

I say do it however you want though. It's not the paint that makes these trucks look cool to me, it is the shape of the truck.

My truck doesn't have the benefit of having very visible surface rust. I buff the paint and the rust disappears, so I would have to fake the patina, but I don't really like that, so I'm going to go ahead and just paint it again.

gimmy 64 02-24-2013 08:47 PM

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i like patina but i hate rust. if a truck has worn paint with primer showing that is fine. if the primer is gone and bare metal showing i have to fix it.

PAPA KENT 02-24-2013 09:16 PM

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keep doing what your doing,it looks great.

gulfcoast66 02-24-2013 09:39 PM

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Nice truck, perfect match on the paint....look good to me both ways....
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sigshooter 02-24-2013 09:45 PM

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What brand & color code,name did you use. looking to match a fender on my Burb

Rust-Oleum Painter's Touch Ultra cover 2X Gloss Spa Blue 249093

Cover very very very well and leaves no tiger stripping between

LostMy65 04-26-2013 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Realnoisy (Post 5909218)
I have gone through the total restore and spent thousands of dollars on beautiful paint jobs only to have my heart broken when careless people door ding it, rock chips etc... Not to mention always worrying about the paint.

Now when someone door dings it, I'm like "Wow...that looks kwel!" :)

That's my thoughts.
I don't want to have to worry about dings and scratches.


I would like to see some more pics of your truck.
Do you have some posted in another thread somewhere?
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TommyDuncan 04-26-2013 09:22 AM

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I like patina when I see it but I'm not lucky enough to have a car that is original enough to have it.

I have learned something though...

...rusty cars are as offensive to certain people as tattoo sleeves and piercings! I guess I didn't realize it was a statement?

My mother in law, aunt, mom, cringe at my Nova SS convertible because the back half is original white paint and the front clip and doors are original red paint from another car.
They like my rusty 63 longstep better because the previous owner painted it in his yard(I'm guessing).
As long as it's all one color(and not primer, I primered the Nova, didn't help)everyone is happy!
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sigshooter 04-26-2013 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by LostMy65 (Post 6035491)
That's my thoughts.
I don't want to have to worry about dings and scratches.


I would like to see some more pics of your truck.
Do you have some posted in another thread somewhere?
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My build thread is sigshooter's 1965
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