Gauges used for LSx swaps
I'm at the point where it's time to decide on gauges to get for our project with a 6.0/4L80E. I've searched around here. Sure would be nice if there was a dedicated sticky to just this subject. Swappers, please take a moment to explain what gauges you used, how they were to install, how they are working and the cost. Much appreciated.
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well I have sun pro mechanical gauges. I used a hose connector in my top radiator hose to put the temp sender, got it off ebay cheap and already was tapped for sender. I broke off the oe oil sender at the back of the manifold and tapped it for the oil gauge hose, and the super sunpro super tach is a programmable model that will work for 2 4 6 or 8 cyl so you can set it and hook it directly to the puter ouput. no speedo or fuel gauge yet but im thinking I may go with a gps speedo for easy no wire hook up and im still trying to figure out the fuel. well I really have not messed with it much but I know that you can use an ohm meter and check the range of the stock sender then just buy a gauge for that range.:metal:
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built a new gauge cluster,An hour of cutting and trimming stainless followed by 15 minutes of wiring connections and slapping a scangaugeII on it. Doesn't get much simpler.
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I like what you did. It shows some real ingenuity. I appreciate the link you posted too. I'm still hunting around. Speedhut gauges are interesting to me with the use of microprocessors and the way you can personalize the appearance. Very cool.
What I'm going to say might offend some but I think the original style dash with all those gauges is too busy. Speedhut has a 2 gauge custom set - 4" dual speedometer and tach along with 4" quad gauge - oil, water, fuel volts. They are selling the set currently for $531. I think these will make for a very clean looking dash. If I purchase a 3 hole dash bezel and make a thin bezel sheet to hold these it should work okay. |
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Autometer has 5" quad gauges and 5" speedo's including a small tach across the bottom.
They also have 3 3/8" dual gauges. I have the dual fuel/oil pressure one as shown below. I also have Aeroforce Interceptor on the dash for info off OBDII diagnostic port, but may move it to replace trans or a/f gauge. http://www.lsxtrucks.com/gallery/alb...G_2965%7E0.JPG |
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I've got some speed hut gauges on thier way to my house. We will see how they turn out.
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They should be here in a couple of days. I used the 4 1/2" tach and speedo, and the 2 1/16"
Can bus oil pressure, tranny temp, water temp, and volt gauge. They also made me a custom 3 3/8 can bus gauge. I'll post pics when I get it all put together! Posted via Mobile Device |
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sub'd for my swap
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I used gauges out of a Silverado ($40) and later upgraded to Escalade gauges ($100). The Escalade gauges have a more vintage look to them and fit the look of the truck as well as the added trans temp gauge.
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Tchncndan, can you post a better pic of the 2nd set of guages, the Escalade ones. That sounds interesting and somewhat inexpensive..Thanks. Jim
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http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/...3C3B1B7ECB.jpg http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/...ps048b1ff9.jpg Good luck with your setup. :chevy: Posted via Mobile Device Posted via Mobile Device |
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That's nice, where did you get that turn signal lever with the cruise. Also is it a three wire or four cruise
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Dakota Digital VHX with their PCM interface. The speed, RPM, Water Temp, etc are feed to the gauges via the PCM.
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Pin color use A1-2-not used A3---pink------fused ignition feed A4---not used A5---tan/wht--brake warning indicator lamp input NOT USED A6-7-not used A8---brwn/wht-SES light A9---not used A10--orn-------fused battery feed A11--not used A12--lt blu------left turn input A13--ppl/wht---seat belt indicator NOT USED A14-16-not used A17--lt grn------high beam indicator B1---brn--------park lamp feed B2---not used B3---gry--------security indicator input B4---not used B5---ppl/wht----fused ignition feed B6---gry--------Class 2 Serial Data *********** B7---orn/blk-----rear compartment lid ajar indicator NOT USED B8---dk grn/wht--vehicle speed signal B9---gry---------instrument cluster lamp feed B10--dk blu------right turn indicator input B11--blk----ground B12-13--not used B14--tan---------oil pressure gauge input B15--blk wht------ground B16-17- not used I unplugged the ribbon cable to the message center otherwise the security light will always flash when on. The oil pressure switch is different for 99-02 and 03-06 so you have to use the switch of the same year as the cluster. The 03-06 gets its oil pressure from the PCM and the 99-02 is wired direct as above. |
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that looks somewhat clean.
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Thanks TchnchDen, pretty cool idea. Does look more Classic than the other too. Lots of cool ideas floating around here. Jim
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I'm in the middle of swapping a '65 c10 dash into my '86 c10 lq4/4l80....all electric autometer american muscle gauges, and a boese engineering gauge panel...I dont have them wired up yet, but should work awesome...
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Mooseknuckles, that is one sweet looking guage panel. The American Muscle guages look very nice.
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TechncnDen, i sure like the way you did your dash.... might have to borrow that idea... thanks for sharing.
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We used a cluster out of a 01 camaro. Cost $60 and the PCM controls everything but the fuel gauge. We epoxied the original fuel gauge armature into the camaro one. A piece of lexan cut to fit, and painted black from behind and ready to go.
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That's SWEET! :metal::metal::metal:
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Interesting thread, taking notes
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I made my own dash. Used the phantom gauges and was really easily (except fuel gauge, but thats the sending unit thats bad) Used bolts with green led's for the turn signal and just a simple blue led for the brights to make it look clean.
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I just got My Gauges in the mail today!! Can't wait to build the gauge panel!!
Speedo (with high beam indicator) Tach (with check engine light) Fuel level (can bus) Oil Pressure (can bus) Tranny Temp (can bus) Water Temp (can bus) Volts (can bus) Looks to be super simple to wire it all up! |
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I'm going to use a late model stock fuel pump modulator with a fuel level sender on it. That gets run through the wiring to the computer, that then sends it via can bus signal out. At least that is the way it's supposed to work according to PSI. they verified for me that the fuel level signal was sent to the computer and then out to the gauges via can bus rather than coming to the gauges a different way.
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Thanks! The wiring looks really simple. I would have gone with a can bus speedo and tach, but they don't have them in the right size yet. And no amount of bribing by me was going to get them built anytime soon.
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I figured out my gauge cluster, it was a little misunderstanding of the wiring list. I was using a post that TchncnDen put up (thanks man) and pin B5 says " B5---ppl/wht----fused ignition feed" and it actually just needs to be hot only when the starter is engaged, I had it hot at all times when key was in run. Cut that wire, and it is all good to go, except my fuel gauge but that is a separate problem. I have the third member out welding it up, since I spin everytime I look at the gas pedal now. (I know most people are 100% against welding up rear ends, but I have had great luck with it in the past and will run it until it breaks)
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