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bguild 04-08-2013 09:15 AM

Project "Edna Marie"
 
Well another one has started..... This one is going to be different than the other 3 I have had. Different in the sense this one will be done right. Ever since I have sold my 1968 Chevy Shortbed that I had in high school I have wanted another one. That truck was a Gold SWB lowered truck. It was a great truck. I had to sell that one since I was heading off to college and I needed a more dependable vehicle. I went about 10 years without owning a 67-72 Chevy truck. My second one I bought for 750 bucks was a complete rust bucket and I realized after stripping it down it was to far gone. I ended up parting it out. The 3rd one I had was the closest to the start of the truck I wanted.
Project Low Dough. See build thread...
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...66#post4236866
after buying this truck I realized some things I did not like. The main being it was a cut down long bed. There was also rust above the windsheild and tearing it down to make the truck what I really wanted seemed like to much work and mess. I ended up posting it on Craiglist just seeing if I could get the money I wanted and sure enough it was gone in a week. I was a little sad when it left the house.
Since selling that truck and also selling my beloved Harley Road King I have been pondering what to do. I have had this dream truck build in my mind for awhile. I love the Porterbuilt Fab trucks and also the LS engines. I really want to build that truck. The more I thought about it I had decided that the truck I wanted to build meant buying a truck and scraping half of it. With that said I thought buying a frame and cab made more sense. LESS MESS... I was going to wait on this project for a few years until my girls got a little bit older (2 and 5) and money freed up some. My wife is going back to school and we will be on one income for the next few years. Even though I was going to wait on this project I kept searching the parts for sale board and still watching the site for something.
I ran across a 1967 Chevy SWB frame roller and cab that board member CHEESEMAN or Tyler was selling. He said he was going to scrap it if he didnt sell it soon. I didnt want to have that happen and it was exactly what I was looking for minus it has a small back glass. I called him and talked about price and agreed on a price of 350 pending more pictures. He sent more pictures and I also checked into getting a title for it since it did not have one. The VIN numbers did match on frame and cab
After doing research on KS laws I talked my Stepdad (who also loves these trucks) into buying it since I live in MO. It is easier to get titles for old cars in KS it only requires a Bill of Sale and a VIN Inspection. Once I had everything figured out I made the long drive to north MO and picked up the truck. I thought for 350 I couldnt pass on it.

bguild 04-08-2013 09:21 AM

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Here are some pictures of the truck as I got it. I wish I would have got some pics of it on the trailer on the way home but I didnt. This is it as I pulled it in the garage.
http://i45.tinypic.com/2mrbns7.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/1177iif.jpg
http://i49.tinypic.com/1t3g34.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/fo3hwx.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/14y5vtx.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/1pc8z9.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/25f36yr.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/2ls89aa.jpg
http://i49.tinypic.com/2m44tc2.jpg
http://i49.tinypic.com/2m44tc2.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/11bi1ds.jpg

bguild 04-08-2013 09:28 AM

Re: Project "Edna Marie"
 
As you can see the truck is rusty but it does not have a ton of rot through. The rust is from sitting in a barn after sandblasting. The truck has most of what I wanted there. The frame is pretty good and the cab is a good start. The most important thing before starting this project is getting a title. I did not want to do anything to this until getting a title. I made about 20 calls to the Vin inspection office in KS and thought I had it all figured out. I ended up loading it up and taking it to the vin inspection office. Well come to find out I couldnt pass the vin inspection due to it not being a complete truck. I needed all the sheetmetal. This wasnt a lost trip though. They did run the vin and check things out and all checked out okay. They said all I needed was the sheetmetal and I could pass. I then made a call back to Cheeseman becaue I saw he had a ton of parts he was trying to get rid of. He ended up having all the front end parts and doors. He ended up selling all the parts for 200 bucks. I now had 550 bucks in this truck plus gas money. The bad is that I had a ton of parts and the garage was getting cluttered again. I was hoping I wouldnt have to deal with all of this. Anyway instead of selling it I told myself to be patient and I would get the title for it.

bguild 04-08-2013 09:29 AM

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The parts I got from Cheeseman were in pretty good shape and I feel I got a great deal for 200 bucks The all need a small amount of work but workable. I will post picks of the parts later today.

bguild 04-08-2013 09:38 AM

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After getting all these parts I still needed a bed. This was going to be the tough part because beds are expensive... especially shortbeds. I just happen to come across VIC1947 on this board. He had just bought a truck that was going to be redone.
Here are his two trucks.
Silver Streaker
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=550387

Crusty Rusty Leaky Squeaky 67 Step
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=563833

He actually gave me a short stepside bed that was to far gone to work with. The neat thing is that he lives less than a mile from my house. I have a feeling he might be a new long time friend. It is a small world out there and this board is great to connect people with the same hobbies. Vic and I are in different stages of life. I am just learning how to do all the fabrication and he has years of experience. I hope to learn a few things from him. He does some very nice work.

Anyway back to the story. Since giving me his truck bed I made another trip to the VIN inspection office. This time I passed the inspection. I have all paperwork my Step-dad needs to apply for a title.

bguild 04-08-2013 09:48 AM

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Now that I have the paper work I am going through a strip down of the truck. I am pulling all suspension out of this thing. I plan get it stripped down to the frame and cab so I can start the work. I am going to sell all the parts I am not using. Including front rear suspension, wheels and tires, and some other parts. They will be going to the board within the next week once everything is removed.
I also picked up a nice roof for free from SDUCKWORTH.. Since i dont like the small back glass I am planning on grafting the big back window into this cab. I know this will be a challenge but I have a pretty good game plan to do it. The roof has a ton of hail damage anyway so it would make sense to replace the roof skin and back glass section to make this what i want. I also pulled the uncut stereo section out of the donor cab SDUCKWORTH gave me. The rest went to scrape.

bguild 04-08-2013 09:53 AM

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My plan for this truck is to do Porterbuilt front and rear.. LQ4 or LQ9 engine and some 22 inch billet wheels. I really like 67CHEBY truck and also n2Billet's trucks. I like the original look with modern suspension. I plan to add the modern engine to mine since i am a computer guy I dig the idea of fuel management and computer management.
This build will be slow and on going so dont expect a ton of updates in a short period. Again my plan is to do it right.. doing it right means money which I dont have right now while my wife is going back to school. The good is that I have alot of sheetmetal work to do which is just time consuming. (-;

Low Elco 04-08-2013 10:02 AM

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First Page! Gotta see where this one goes. Where's Momma going to school? What for?

bguild 04-08-2013 10:04 AM

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Another thing to add. The reason for the name Edna Marie is becuase that was my grandmother's name. She passed away a few years ago from a battle with cancer and I miss her daily. I was very close to her and she was the rock in our family. I have always wanted to build my dream truck and name it after her. That way I can enjoy the truck and also remember her when I am cruising.

bguild 04-08-2013 10:05 AM

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She is going to get her Early Education Degree. She already has an associates and plans to go to Maplewoods to start then transfer to Missouri Western. I figure it will be about 2.5 years.
The good is she plans to pay me back once she gets out and gets a job.. I told her it had to be in Porterbuilt parts and she actually agreed.

Vic1947 04-08-2013 10:52 AM

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I'm in for the long haul ...truly a "ground up" build in more ways than one!

72BlckButy 04-08-2013 01:44 PM

Re: Project "Edna Marie"
 
Glad to see the new build thread.

bguild 04-08-2013 02:50 PM

Re: Project "Edna Marie"
 
Front crossmember is out. Tried to get the rear trailing arms and rear end out but it is rusted on there so I will have to cut bolts. I will have to buy a new angle grinder because I burnt mine up the other day. Pictures will be added tonight.
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bguild 04-08-2013 05:34 PM

Re: Project "Edna Marie"
 
I made a little progress today. I removed the front crossmember. I am trying to get this torn down to the bare frame and get rid of the parts I will not use when I go to the Porterbuilt set up. I also snapped some pics of the fenders and the donor roof.
Here are the pics.
Out with the old..
http://i50.tinypic.com/241rtvp.jpg
Bare frame up front.
http://i49.tinypic.com/97v5p1.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/2w6x6k2.jpg
http://i50.tinypic.com/r0bb43.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/19uqvs.jpg
The donor roof with big back glass.
http://i50.tinypic.com/f228f6.jpg
Its pretty clean on top
http://i47.tinypic.com/w1pxdl.jpg
old roof with hail damage.
http://i46.tinypic.com/s66jya.jpg
Front Fenders that I got from Cheeseman.
http://i50.tinypic.com/23t437t.jpg

67cheby 04-08-2013 05:39 PM

Re: Project "Edna Marie"
 
looks like a great start ! looking forward to some more progress !

bguild 04-08-2013 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 67cheby (Post 5999067)
looks like a great start ! looking forward to some more progress !

You might be looking more fwd to me buying some inner fenders from you. (-;
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bguild 04-12-2013 01:26 PM

Re: Project "Edna Marie"
 
Laying frame. Now i just need to put some suspension and a drivetrain LOL. http://i46.tinypic.com/205s8z7.jpg

Rear end is out and trailing arms are out.
http://i50.tinypic.com/oqxilw.jpg

67chevy1series 04-12-2013 03:02 PM

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so your ditching the small winder? haha gonna be a cool truck. from the pics it looks like another blue interior and white exterior from the factory. this was probably the most popular color choice for the 67. seems 6 out of 10 67s had this color combo.

bguild 04-12-2013 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 67chevy1series (Post 6007295)
so your ditching the small winder? haha gonna be a cool truck. from the pics it looks like another blue interior and white exterior from the factory. this was probably the most popular color choice for the 67. seems 6 out of 10 67s had this color combo.

Yes I am planning on ditching the sma window. Hopefully I can get it put in right. If not I will be in search for a new cab (-;
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mcbassin 04-12-2013 04:22 PM

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cool start to another project. I'm in.

bguild 04-18-2013 08:41 PM

Re: Project "Edna Marie"
 
I did get some stuff done today. I am disassembling the donor roof. So far I have the drip rail cut off and most pinch welds drilled out aroun the drip rail. I am going to pull the outter roof,back window and inner rear window out tomorrow. I plan to clean those up as much as possible and then cut out the small window and roof out of the good cab. I assume there is going to be a great deal of rust underneath so I hope to clean up as much as possible before welding the new roof and big window in. I will be taking pictures tomorrow so people will know what they are in for if they do this. I am learning as I go and hopeful that i do not trash this cab but if I do i will be looking for a new cab. I think I have it figured out on how to do this the easiest and it should be fairly easy if all goes the way I hope. More to be added tomorrow.

Low Elco 04-19-2013 12:47 PM

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This oughta be interesting. Good luck, I'm pullin' for ya!

Hardesty454 04-19-2013 01:22 PM

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Nice start. Keep it updated!

72BlckButy 04-20-2013 07:17 AM

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Post up those pics. Can't wait to see hw the roof swap goes.
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bguild 04-20-2013 08:36 AM

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Well the Boston Bombing chase really cut into my truck time yesterday. I ended up not sleeping the night before due to watching alot of it yesterday. This one hit a little more close to home for me than 9.11 becuaes I now travel for work and am in the medical field. I was in boston last week and also did work at Mass General and Newark Beth along with Newton Wellesley hospitals. The infusion pumps i installed and handled are on the patients that were caught up in this mess. Another factor is two years ago I decided I wanted to qaulify for the boston marathon. I was close to making the cut and then hurt my foot. It had made me think most likely I would have been running this marathon if it was not for that. It could have been me or my wife and kids. I have been a little more tied to the coverage of this mess due to these factors. I am very glad they caught those guys. With all that said I did cut up the donor roof yesterday and I plan to post pictures here shortly. This is going to be a long project to get this roof right if I can even get to work right..

bguild 04-20-2013 08:50 AM

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So here is the start of cutting up the donor roof.
http://i33.tinypic.com/120jpkm.jpg

This is the underneath of the top roof I cut out.. Look at all that rust. This piece is going to the scraper.
http://i34.tinypic.com/33om6xh.jpg

This is how I plan to put the roof one the cab. I need to grind down some of these spot welded seems and get it all ready to be added to the cab. Its going to be a long journey but I thinkthis is the simplest way to do this. everything will be a spot weld seem to hold this one besides right below the window.
http://i33.tinypic.com/10gxo1w.jpg

This is the rust that was above the front windsheild on the donor cab.. I only post this pic for people that might have this issue in their truck. I am scraping this piece from the donor cab.
http://i38.tinypic.com/1zqeo93.jpg

Here is the back window from the donor cab ready. besides making my cut straighter below the window. I cut this area a little long due to the fact this will be a weld and the line up from this roof to my cab needs to be perfect. I want to get my cab ready before I make the final cut on this one.
http://i35.tinypic.com/28v8siw.jpg

Here is the inside close to being ready.. I still have to grind some of the pinch weld seams so they are ready to graph onto my cab.
http://i33.tinypic.com/1zdowoj.jpg

Look at all this rust on the underneath of this roof. I will need to treat this with something as well as the inner roof on my cab.. I heard viniger and water works well to neutralize rust so it will probably be a wire brush followed by alot of vinegar then follow but a rust controling paint.
http://i35.tinypic.com/klvep.jpg

Also tools used- drill with spot weld bit, air chisel, angle grinder with cut off wheel and sawzall. Get ready for ton of spot welds to drill out.

Vic1947 04-20-2013 09:49 AM

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Brian, I have a gallon of Gem Rust Killer that will work great to neutralize the surface rust. If you plan to squirt any epoxy primer, the rust killer will need some additional prep, but if primer isn't part of the plan, you're good to go. Stop by when you get the chance and I'll load you up. Vic

bguild 04-20-2013 11:17 AM

Re: Project "Edna Marie"
 
Thanks Vic. I am still trying figuring out what to do for
Primer or Paint on the inside I feel I need to do something in there. I will swing by sometime soon thank you for helping me out. I am also thinking that I might actually use my mig welder instead of borrowing your welder for the roof to drip
Rail seam. Since I had to drill so many holes to get the roof off I figure I can weld and then grind smooth then seam sealer to make it look pretty.
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mcbassin 04-22-2013 08:19 AM

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Looks like a lot of work but it will be worth it in the end. As for paint POR-15 works pretty good and you don't have to be too concerned with the surface prep. It does suck to weld anywhere near that stuff though.

Keep up the hard work.

sduckworth13 04-23-2013 12:17 AM

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Hey that roof looks familiar, lol. Brian, let me know if I can help if you need anything.
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bguild 04-29-2013 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sduckworth13 (Post 6028860)
Hey that roof looks familiar, lol. Brian, let me know if I can help if you need anything.
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Thanks Scott... Yes the roof probably does look familiar LOL.

You forgot to tell me that this one had extra spot welds in it. Kidding but I am tired of drilling all these out.

I have been working some here and there on the roof.. This is a very time consuming thing.. It is coming around though. I have the inner and outer window metal seperated and the inner rear window mocked up hanging in the cab. The hardest part of this who thing is going to be the seem on the outside below the rear window. Vic actually has a good idea of using a 90 degree piece of metal that will keep the two pieces stiff and give me some backing to weld to. The more I ponder this and how to piece it all together I believe this to be the best solution.
I hope to have most of the pieces aligned mocked up and prepped by the end of the week. Then I will start working on how to do the 90 degree. I will post some pics today or tomorrow.

bguild 04-29-2013 12:28 PM

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One thing I realized that is odd about my original 67 cab is that the inner roof passenger side does not have the hole for the visor on the interior. The backing is there but never was drilled Is this normal or did the factory forget to drill it?

sduckworth13 04-29-2013 12:34 PM

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That's weird. Wonder if someone just filled the hole.
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bguild 04-29-2013 01:16 PM

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No it's not filled. Since I can see the backside since the outer roof is off. It was never cut from factory
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bguild 04-29-2013 03:41 PM

Re: Project "Edna Marie"
 
So I pulled the cover off the rear end today.. It looks like i have a GOV lock in there. It also has a few chucks missing from the gear.. I heard these are not all that great and blow up easy. Any suggestions?
http://i42.tinypic.com/30ier1x.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/28b6sk2.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/2dcemgx.jpg
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bguild 04-29-2013 03:46 PM

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Here are my progress pics on the roof.. Its slow going and I am trying to take my time with it.
http://i43.tinypic.com/jb63us.jpg

Roof just sitting on the cab.
http://i39.tinypic.com/23jllrd.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/vxus8.jpg

Rear window mocked up.
http://i39.tinypic.com/34h9rvl.jpg

mcbassin 04-29-2013 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bguild (Post 6041617)
So I pulled the cover off the rear end today.. It looks like i have a GOV lock in there. It also has a few chucks missing from the gear.. I heard these are not all that great and blow up easy. Any suggestions?

I've heard the same thing about the gov lock. Only thing I can suggest is standard posi, but that can be quite expensive too.

Nice progress on the cab.:chevy:

Vic1947 04-29-2013 08:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bguild (Post 6041617)
So I pulled the cover off the rear end today.. It looks like i have a GOV lock in there. It also has a few chucks missing from the gear.. I heard these are not all that great and blow up easy. Any suggestions?

I picked up an Auburn posi off of eBay fairly reasonable so I have a leftover gov-bomb in great condition. You can have it if you just want something that isn't torn up. I think they're actually pretty decent units. Most of them explode due to abuse. If your plans include power adders, lotsa grunt and tire smoking videos, it's probably not a good choice.

bguild 04-29-2013 09:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vic1947 (Post 6042129)
I picked up an Auburn posi off of eBay fairly reasonable so I have a leftover gov-bomb in great condition. You can have it if you just want something that isn't torn up. I think they're actually pretty decent units. Most of them explode due to abuse. If your plans include power adders, lotsa grunt and tire smoking videos, it's probably not a good choice.

Well I appreciate that but I keep watching all these twin turbo lsx videos on you tube. I will probably just redo it or switch to a ford 9in
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Vic1947 04-29-2013 11:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bguild (Post 6042424)
Well I appreciate that but I keep watching all these twin turbo lsx videos on you tube. I will probably just redo it or switch to a ford 9in
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Well, that would certainly be a good choice. I think I have a 9" housing and chunk we could build. As I recall, housing is out of a Lincoln so we can set it up for whatever track width you need. It doesn't have any ends on it, so you could pick whatever you wanted to match your rear brake package. Also, since you're going Porterbuilt, I'm sure you'll end up with four link brackets or something similar. End result would be extremely stout for a tenth of the cost of a Currie, Moser, Mark Williams or etc. Biggest expense would be the axles. Keep it in mind if you decide to go that route.


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