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Thealien 10-04-2013 04:44 PM

1968 Chevy, 1968-1972 GMC Fender new never installed GM not Repop Will Ship
 
I really didn't want to ship this (would hate to dammage it) but it hasn't sold yet. When is the last time you saw a 1968 NOS fender? $350 plus actual cost to ship.

I bought this fender as NOS and it had the GM sticker when I bought it. It hung on my body guys wall for a year and he threw some primer on it. I know how some people get upset about what is described as NOS. This is a new GM (1968 Chevy 1968-1972 GMC) never installed passenger fender. I prefer local pickup but will meet someone within a reasonable distance. I know some people post they are traveling to certain areas from time to time and would be willing to hold it for a bit for someone if they can make some arangements. First I'll take it in this thread gets it cash or postal money order preferred, paypal +fees or "gift"

$350



Thanks for looking

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Now on CRAIGSLIST

Thealien 10-04-2013 07:27 PM

Re: 1968 Chevy, 1968-1972 GMC Fender new never installed GM not Repop Will Ship
 
I was contacted by Elloiot949 and he is saying this fender is not OEM. It was bought from a local reputable seller of NOS parts and had the GM sticker and was black when I got it. From many years of storage it had a little surface rust and my body guy primed it thinking we were going to paint it and then I sold my truck. I know a few reputable members have looked at this fender and didn't question its authenticity. Elliot said there are tell tale signs so I am calling him out in this thread to show the "tell tale signs"

Here is the original WIW thread with the same pictures and the it wasn't questioned by the two that responded. am pretty sure they would know those "tell tale signs" HERE IS THE ORIGINAL THREAD

I had a repeop on my Jimmy and you could see the difference.

rkintn_68 10-04-2013 08:31 PM

Re: 1968 Chevy, 1968-1972 GMC Fender new never installed GM not Repop Will Ship
 
interested if shipping not to high ... 37043 home address

Thealien 10-04-2013 10:06 PM

Re: 1968 Chevy, 1968-1972 GMC Fender new never installed GM not Repop Will Ship
 
Give me a couple of days to figure a way to crate it. Do you have a business address that I could ship to it would save on shipping.

bigmac73 10-04-2013 10:18 PM

Re: 1968 Chevy, 1968-1972 GMC Fender new never installed GM not Repop Will Ship
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thealien (Post 6299630)
I was contacted by Elloiot949 and he is saying this fender is not OEM. It was bought from a local reputable seller of NOS parts and had the GM sticker and was black when I got it. From many years of storage it had a little surface rust and my body guy primed it thinking we were going to paint it and then I sold my truck. I know a few reputable members have looked at this fender and didn't question its authenticity. Elliot said there are tell tale signs so I am calling him out in this thread to show the "tell tale signs"

Here is the original WIW thread with the same pictures and the it wasn't questioned by the two that responded. am pretty sure they would know those "tell tale signs" HERE IS THE ORIGINAL THREAD

I had a repeop on my Jimmy and you could see the difference.

I am curious about the missing holes for the emblems, was that always something that had to be drilled??

AHowe88 10-05-2013 12:17 AM

Re: 1968 Chevy, 1968-1972 GMC Fender new never installed GM not Repop Will Ship
 
For what it is worth, I just shipped 2 NOS Fenders (among other things) to Canada, even with plenty of insurance it wasn't as expensive as I thought it would be. I used UPS.

rkintn_68 10-05-2013 06:06 AM

Re: 1968 Chevy, 1968-1972 GMC Fender new never installed GM not Repop Will Ship
 
no com .. address ... pm sent ...

rkintn_68 10-05-2013 06:07 AM

Re: 1968 Chevy, 1968-1972 GMC Fender new never installed GM not Repop Will Ship
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AHowe88 (Post 6300017)
For what it is worth, I just shipped 2 NOS Fenders (among other things) to Canada, even with plenty of insurance it wasn't as expensive as I thought it would be. I used UPS.

how much was it ? did you ship n cardboard ?

Elliot949 10-05-2013 06:15 AM

Re: 1968 Chevy, 1968-1972 GMC Fender new never installed GM not Repop Will Ship
 
I am choosing not to post this publically out of respect for the integrity of this board but if anyone has a question please PM me and I will answer it... I have sent a PM to "Thealien" with pics showing the difference in a 67/68 OEM... My intentions of contacting him privately was so he could look himself and make the determinations himself rather than get into a rude exchange publicly but that seems to be the way he wants to handle things, I choose not to... Dan

Thealien 10-05-2013 06:39 AM

Re: 1968 Chevy, 1968-1972 GMC Fender new never installed GM not Repop Will Ship
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Elliot949 (Post 6300155)
I am choosing not to post this publically out of respect for the integrity of this board but if anyone has a question please PM me and I will answer it... I have sent a PM to "Thealien" with pics showing the difference in a 67/68 OEM... My intentions of contacting him privately was so he could look himself and make the determinations himself rather than get into a rude exchange publicly but that seems to be the way he wants to handle things, I choose not to... Dan

Go ahead post those same two pics here. I will take a clearer pic of that same area. This is the real deal nobody stuck an old faded GM sticker on the fender when I bought it. Maybe it will help someone in the future. Looking at your pictures they are of a 67 without the marker light. everything looks the same to me except the very top where it folds over the inside. The seam coming down is exactly the same, the three bumps on the top edge are the same? Anyone have a pic of an OEM 68-72 GMC OEM fender for comparison. I have no problem taking all the detailed pics it takes to prove this is what it is.

Elliot949 10-05-2013 06:54 AM

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Here you go...

Thealien 10-05-2013 08:50 AM

Re: 1968 Chevy, 1968-1972 GMC Fender new never installed GM not Repop Will Ship
 
Here are a few more pics for everyone to look at. I will be happy to email the high resolution 3 megapixle pics to anyone interested. I still would like to see some OEM pics of 68-72 pics of this area. Thanks

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ps7db83ad7.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ps21ac2273.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ps9da7439a.jpg
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Elliot949 10-05-2013 10:25 AM

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When I get some stuff moved around in my garage where I can get the 68 fender down I will get a few pics for you...

Thealien 10-05-2013 10:32 AM

Re: 1968 Chevy, 1968-1972 GMC Fender new never installed GM not Repop Will Ship
 
If you can duplicate the pics I took for comparison, same angles and locations?

PICKMUP 10-05-2013 01:48 PM

Re: 1968 Chevy, 1968-1972 GMC Fender new never installed GM not Repop Will Ship
 
Thanks to both of you for working this out! I know it is a hassle, but it sure helps us so we know for sure that items being sold are real GM/NOS when listed as such.

DaHos 10-05-2013 02:13 PM

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Ok my input....

NOS in box pics

DaHos 10-05-2013 02:20 PM

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Oem

White 68 c30
Gold 68 C20
Gold/white 69-72 GMC

DaHos 10-05-2013 02:22 PM

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And an OEM Pair

DaHos 10-05-2013 02:42 PM

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And another OEM 68

Thealien 10-05-2013 03:54 PM

Re: 1968 Chevy, 1968-1972 GMC Fender new never installed GM not Repop Will Ship
 
Thanks for the pictures.

There seems to be enough variations in all those to not help at all LOL? Some have the 3 little triangle bumps at the curve and many do not. I know 1968 chevy and 1969-72 GMC all will interchange and fit. I wonder if some of those subtle changes are the difference between chevy and GMC? Or just difference in stamping facilities? Look at the tip of some of the fenders and there is a space between layers of some and no space on others?

Do any of you posting pictures have an opinion on the authenticity of my fender? As I said before, I bought it with the faded GM sticker with the part number that was correct for a 1968 chevy fender I have no doubt at all to its authenticity. I want there to be no doubt for a potential buyer.

Elliot949 10-06-2013 08:02 AM

Re: 1968 Chevy, 1968-1972 GMC Fender new never installed GM not Repop Will Ship
 
Looking at those pics I would have to concede that it is possible... again I will look at the one on the wall later and post what I see...

Thealien 10-06-2013 05:09 PM

Re: 1968 Chevy, 1968-1972 GMC Fender new never installed GM not Repop Will Ship
 
Look at this picture here look at the small notch where it goes from brown to white (right where there is a little yellow paint), mine has the same little notch. Also look at the top right above the seam and you will see another little notch (above the hole above my camera strap)again the same as the used fender. I highly doubt a repop are going to have those same little details!

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ps7f5c29e0.jpg
and compare to this one
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...1&d=1380997230
and this one
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ps810b1ff7.jpg

rkintn_68 10-06-2013 06:08 PM

Re: 1968 Chevy, 1968-1972 GMC Fender new never installed GM not Repop Will Ship
 
I think it is possible that some of the oem fenders could very well be a repro ...
the trucks could have been wrecked ... I can not say one way or the other about
the three diamond shape stamps must be on a NOS but was always told it was the way to tell oem from repro ... I am not saying your fender is not NOS but
I must say I am no longer interested , so pass it on to next in line ...it would be interesting to get more opinions ...thanks ...

Thealien 10-06-2013 06:26 PM

Re: 1968 Chevy, 1968-1972 GMC Fender new never installed GM not Repop Will Ship
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rkintn_68 (Post 6302267)
I think it is possible that some of the oem fenders could very well be a repro ...
the trucks could have been wrecked ... I can not say one way or the other about
the three diamond shape stamps must be on a NOS but was always told it was the way to tell oem from repro ... I am not saying your fender is not NOS but
I must say I am no longer interested , so pass it on to next in line ...it would be interesting to get more opinions ...thanks ...

I guess you didn't look at the pictures of the NOS in the box above. No triangles there either?

DaHos 10-06-2013 06:37 PM

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My money is on "NOS"

This fender is identical to both of my NOS IN SEALED BOX 68 fenders that were produced in late 87'.

Here are some pics of a TriPlus repo. Spot welds are smaller, folds are NOT the same, also look at the turn signal hole at the screw tab, OEM's are pointed as the repos are rounded.

To me this is a DEAL for original "new" GM metal !!

Thealien 10-06-2013 07:14 PM

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Thank you very much for taking the time to post all those pictures and pointing out some of the real tell tale signs.

southern parts 10-06-2013 07:51 PM

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I believe you have a gm fender too. all aftermkt fenders that I have seen have the metal lapped wrong where the back of the cup is spot welded to the outer part of the fender . it`s kinda hard to see but the back of the cup on your fender is on the outside (the way it should be). the aftermkt is tucked behind the outer part of the fender. I also have a 68 fender with the gm sticker still on it and no triangles.

BrianG 10-06-2013 08:14 PM

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DaHos's pics tell a lot in my opionion. Also something that he mentioned sort of goes along with something that I've been suspecting. That is, that the stamping plants could have made some changes for whatever reason. They might have either found an easier, more efficient, or 'better' way to make those particular folds. Maybe started out with the diamond shapes and went to something different later. That would explain why an OEM replacement fender might not have the diamonds. This has been a helpful thread overall. I have a pair of 68 fenders that I cant use (I'm building a 69). They are really nice but have been painted so I couldn't tell if they were new or aftermarket. This thread will hopefully help me to determine that, so I'll have a better idea of what to try to sell them for.

special-K 10-06-2013 11:30 PM

Re: 1968 Chevy, 1968-1972 GMC Fender new never installed GM not Repop Will Ship
 
I never noticed the triangle thing till I read about it here. I always dealt with OEM and just knew it was that. I took the triangle thing to heart,but just went and looked at the five GMC fenders I have,the two on my truck and three others all in original paint,and none have those triangles. All are 69-72. I have a pair of '67 GMC fenders,known to be OEM,that aren't here to check. Here is an original paint '67 GMC fender:
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z...s/IMG_3602.jpg

70LonghornCST 10-07-2013 12:45 AM

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One must also remember that NOS does not always mean that it was made at the same time, or even with the same tooling, as the original production run. Many NOS sheetmetal parts were made well into recent years. I am not attesting one way or the other, but I know that my two NOS fenders, both pulled from boxes with stickers on them, don't look exactly identical to the OEM original production run fenders for which I replaced them.

special-K 10-07-2013 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 70LonghornCST (Post 6303070)
One must also remember that NOS does not always mean that it was made at the same time, or even with the same tooling, as the original production run. Many NOS sheetmetal parts were made well into recent years. I am not attesting one way or the other, but I know that my two NOS fenders, both pulled from boxes with stickers on them, don't look exactly identical to the OEM original production run fenders for which I replaced them.

That's true. There has been one shown that was made in 1987. Yet,another point is there are OEM fenders that came on the trucks from day 1 that look like this one. The wrinkles at the inner upper front will obviously not all be identical since they form randomly as the panel is formed. These panels are die-stamped in a press. There is no way to form these any particular way,as suggested.

Here's a 69-72 GMC fender:

Thealien 10-07-2013 12:59 PM

Re: 1968 Chevy, 1968-1972 GMC Fender new never installed GM not Repop Will Ship
 
I hope this is enough proof for the couple of members that had doubts that my Fender is OEM. I also hope that in future searches (if we will ever get more than 50 search results) this will help others in determining the originality of their fender they own, are buying, or selling. more than a few respected members have stated that it is OEM and a couple even stated a good deal at that. This should also lay to rest the rumor that an OEM fender must have the triangles, obviously many do not!

rkintn_68 10-07-2013 04:30 PM

Re: 1968 Chevy, 1968-1972 GMC Fender new never installed GM not Repop Will Ship
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thealien (Post 6302299)
I guess you didn't look at the pictures of the NOS in the box above. No triangles there either?

yes I looked but can not tell much from boxed fenders ... my main concern
was not really if it is nos but the chance of it getting damaged during shipping.
just read another thread about another board member just got a damaged rust
free fender from UPS ... I agree your fender is wat you say it is , no doubt ...
and it is a great deal ... If I lived close enough I would buy it ... I understand
from the pics that the only thing we can count on to prove a nos oem would
be the rounded edge where the side lights attach ??? Maybe some one could chime in, if that is so ...

rkintn_68 10-07-2013 04:39 PM

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sorry meant to say repro is rounded were the sidelights attach and oem nos is not ???

Thealien 10-07-2013 05:24 PM

Re: 1968 Chevy, 1968-1972 GMC Fender new never installed GM not Repop Will Ship
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rkintn_68 (Post 6303937)
yes I looked but can not tell much from boxed fenders ... my main concern
was not really if it is nos but the chance of it getting damaged during shipping.

just read another thread about another board member just got a damaged rust
free fender from UPS ... I agree your fender is wat you say it is , no doubt ...
and it is a great deal
... If I lived close enough I would buy it ... I understand
from the pics that the only thing we can count on to prove a nos oem would
be the rounded edge where the side lights attach ??? Maybe some one could chime in, if that is so ...

That is not what you said earlier. You posted the same thing Elliot and a few others stated that if there are no triangles it is not OEM. That is not true, shown by way too many OEM fenders posted in this thread. Lets lay that rumor to rest.

There is the marker lights, the size of the spotwelds, and you can see how differently the metal is folded around the edges in the repops. I could garantee it would arrive undammaged by crating it but that would add to shipping costs. Before all this went down I would have worked a little with you to help on shipping but I feel you still have your doubts so I will definately look for another buyer. 1969-72 chevy fenders are plentifull both used and NOS. 1968 chevy 1968-72 GMC is a little harder to come by. If this hasn't sold by the end of the week I will put it on Ebay and we can see what its worth there?

rob32472 12-07-2013 09:28 PM

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Do you still have this? Interested if so

Thealien 12-16-2013 12:59 PM

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Sold and shipped to a member in MN


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