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Rellim51 02-03-2014 11:28 PM

Remember that time I let someone borrow my truck?
 
Long story short, my gear shift indicator is way off, so instead of drive, it's actually in 1st.....I let someone borrow my truck, they didn't know better, and after 20 miles of hwy speeds in 1st gear, some internal engine parts decided they had rather be external engine parts. BOOM!

A little background on this truck. I kinda got the bug for a square body after missing out on buying a couple of trucks at Goodguys show in Ft Worth last October. On my way home from the show, about an hour from home, I spotted this truck for sale.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...pscde07ef8.jpg

It was pretty solid, ran well, and still had original paint. It was a little rougher that what I was looking for but the price was decent so I drove it home. The first thing I did was clean it up and buff the old paint.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps957cc880.jpg

Two days later I had some parts to lower it.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps28cf0bf9.jpg

This is what it looked like after it was lowered and new tires. I'm running 225/70/15 and 255/70/15 on 15x7's and 15x8's painted gunmetal gray instead of the standard silver.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps75f9230f.jpg

This is about where the engine blew. I searched for a month or so for a good used engine but couldn't find anything that I felt good about. I decided on one of the $1500 GM crate 350's from Summit and plan on a few upgrades.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...psbbd3ff48.jpg

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps58d6a5b3.jpg

That's about where it stands now, I'm planning on getting the old engine and trans pulled this week and start on the new engine.

meatwagon83 02-03-2014 11:31 PM

Re: Remember that time I let someone borrow my truck?
 
no one borrows my truck, people ask but i just laugh when they do!

Rellim51 02-03-2014 11:44 PM

Re: Remember that time I let someone borrow my truck?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by meatwagon83 (Post 6506809)
no one borrows my truck, people ask but i just laugh when they do!

It's a southern hospitality thing I guess.

79Betty 02-04-2014 07:27 AM

Re: Remember that time I let someone borrow my truck?
 
I'm with meatwagon. Only person who does mine is my grandma to use to haul rock as their bed has holes. But hey now you can upgrade!!

Rellim51 02-04-2014 07:27 AM

Re: Remember that time I let someone borrow my truck?
 
The engine I'm using is the GM Goodrich 10067363 350. I'm planning on swapping the can for a Comp Cams XE262. I've also got the appropriate valve spring kit from Comp as well. I'm also swapping out the head gaskets for some FelPro rubber coated shims which are much thinner and should bump the compression a little bit. The old engine already had a new Edelbrock Performer EPS intake, Edelbrock 600 CDMA carb, and a set of headers so ill be swapping all that over to the new engine. Here's what it looked like when I uncrated it the new engine.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...psf9024d4d.jpg

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...psb185ab62.jpg

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...psa6ba6393.jpg

Hopefully, I'll get the new cam and springs installed in the next day or two.

meatwagon83 02-04-2014 07:59 AM

Re: Remember that time I let someone borrow my truck?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rellim51 (Post 6506845)
It's a southern hospitality thing I guess.

Its not really that, if they want to pay for gas we can do whatever they need to do, but as far as cutting someone loose in my truck? Hell no! Except for maybe my mom

Keith Seymore 02-04-2014 01:25 PM

Re: Remember that time I let someone borrow my truck?
 
Very nice. I trust you've adjusted the PRNDL indicator after all this?

;)

I was admiring the installation instructions for the crate motor. I wonder why they specified up through '85, instead of '86 (a more natural breakpoint being the last year for carburetors) or even up through the TBI years (since it appears you are installing your own intake)?

K

79 silverado 02-04-2014 02:05 PM

Re: Remember that time I let someone borrow my truck?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore (Post 6507602)
I wonder why they specified up through '85, instead of '86 (a more natural breakpoint being the last year for carburetors) or even up through the TBI years (since it appears you are installing your own intake)?

K

The reason as I would understand it is that it comes down to the one-piece versus 2-piece rear seal design changes... 1986 being first year for the one piece design.

Even the reman engines back when you could get them had a 1986 only option using the older style heads on the newer style block.

Keith Seymore 02-04-2014 04:23 PM

Re: Remember that time I let someone borrow my truck?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 79 silverado (Post 6507671)
The reason as I would understand it is that it comes down to the one-piece versus 2-piece rear seal design changes... 1986 being first year for the one piece design.

Even the reman engines back when you could get them had a 1986 only option using the older style heads on the newer style block.

Ah - good call. I had forgotten about the rear main seal change.

K

Rellim51 02-04-2014 05:10 PM

Re: Remember that time I let someone borrow my truck?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore (Post 6507602)
Very nice. I trust you've adjusted the PRNDL indicator after all this?

;)

I was admiring the installation instructions for the crate motor. I wonder why they specified up through '85, instead of '86 (a more natural breakpoint being the last year for carburetors) or even up through the TBI years (since it appears you are installing your own intake)?

K

Thanks. I haven't adjusted it yet, I'm planning on doing a 700R4 swap when I put the new engine back in so I'm waiting to adjust it with the new trans.

I was really surprised at the lack of paper work that came with this new engine. I expected some sort of break in procedure and oil change recommendations or something. It didn't even come with warranty info, not that it matters, I'm pretty sure I've voided any warranty it had by tearing it down and replacing internal parts.

school boy 02-04-2014 06:06 PM

Re: Remember that time I let someone borrow my truck?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore (Post 6507885)
Ah - good call. I had forgotten about the rear main seal change.

K

my 86 had the center bolt heads and a tbi, im assuming 86 had a half year?

chrisestes 02-04-2014 08:40 PM

Re: Remember that time I let someone borrow my truck?
 
crap that sucks that your engine blew!! good upgrade though

Rellim51 02-04-2014 09:15 PM

Re: Remember that time I let someone borrow my truck?
 
I got to work on getting the old engine out. This is what I started with.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps2e0535c5.jpg

Coming out.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps96809af2.jpg

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...psacf392d9.jpg

It has some pretty good shrapnel holes in the oil pan. I'll get it on a stand and check out the damage in the next week or so. I'm curious to see what came a part.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...psba0948a6.jpg

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps97d3a60f.jpg

Oldriginal86 02-04-2014 09:31 PM

Re: Remember that time I let someone borrow my truck?
 
I believe they need spell check on the paperwork.
Nice truck.

nos487 02-04-2014 10:33 PM

Re: Remember that time I let someone borrow my truck?
 
Looks like oil pan failure!

83 Silverado 02-05-2014 01:54 AM

Re: Remember that time I let someone borrow my truck?
 
I know is this story all to well, had a buddy use my 83 for a weekend, he parked it in my driveway after and didn't telling my about it not shifting out of first, some how blow the governor on the th350. He never did say how it happened, but brake torque and burn outs come to mind, he gave my a 700r4 a week later.

Truck looks good, wish stuff that clean came up for sale me way.

tintbox 02-05-2014 10:52 AM

Re: Remember that time I let someone borrow my truck?
 
Sorry about your misfortune. I have a question about the lowering kit. Which one is it? Nice stance. I have an 86 I just picked up. Good luck with the motor swap!

swissarmychainsaw 02-05-2014 12:22 PM

Re: Remember that time I let someone borrow my truck?
 
You did the right thing by loaning your truck out, and now look! You got a BRAND NEW engine!

Sure it woulda been nice to have that paid for, but this is a WAY better story.
AND from the pics it looks like you got some good toys in the garage.

Lil Red will love you for that new motor!

slowcpe 02-05-2014 12:34 PM

Re: Remember that time I let someone borrow my truck?
 
I admittedly did somewhat the same thing this past summer with a buddy's dad's Chevelle. We were coming back from a show and was asked to drive it home (2 hour drive). Now it was the first time EVER sitting in this car and quite a few years since I had driven a 3-speed transmission. Going down the road in "D" it seemed wound out but temp looked good. No tach in the car. Got to the next town at the stop light, threw in in 1st and ran through the gears. Sure enough it was in 2nd.

My buddy's mom drove the car almost all the way there in 2nd. Fortunately the motor didn't blow, but we did have to adjust the rockers.

Rellim51 02-06-2014 01:13 AM

Re: Remember that time I let someone borrow my truck?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tintbox (Post 6509374)
Sorry about your misfortune. I have a question about the lowering kit. Which one is it? Nice stance. I have an 86 I just picked up. Good luck with the motor swap!

It's all Belltech stuff. Rides great!

Rellim51 02-06-2014 01:15 AM

Re: Remember that time I let someone borrow my truck?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slowcpe (Post 6509541)
I admittedly did somewhat the same thing this past summer with a buddy's dad's Chevelle. We were coming back from a show and was asked to drive it home (2 hour drive). Now it was the first time EVER sitting in this car and quite a few years since I had driven a 3-speed transmission. Going down the road in "D" it seemed wound out but temp looked good. No tach in the car. Got to the next town at the stop light, threw in in 1st and ran through the gears. Sure enough it was in 2nd.

My buddy's mom drove the car almost all the way there in 2nd. Fortunately the motor didn't blow, but we did have to adjust the rockers.

It's easy to do, especially in a vehicle you're not familiar with.

Rellim51 02-06-2014 01:18 AM

Re: Remember that time I let someone borrow my truck?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by swissarmychainsaw (Post 6509526)
You did the right thing by loaning your truck out, and now look! You got a BRAND NEW engine!

Sure it woulda been nice to have that paid for, but this is a WAY better story.
AND from the pics it looks like you got some good toys in the garage.

Lil Red will love you for that new motor!

Sure, I could have used the money on one of my other projects but I'm kinda excited about making this truck better so no hard feelings.

Rellim51 02-15-2014 11:21 AM

Re: Remember that time I let someone borrow my truck?
 
Well, I haven't made much progress on the truck, we've been busy at work. Anyways, here's a little update.

I started tearing down the old engine, this is the first sign of something bad inside. The cam pushed the cam plug out of the block.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps3e80d6fb.jpg

Then I found lifter damage.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps257cad05.jpg

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...pse81dc87e.jpg


http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps275bf487.jpg

Rellim51 02-15-2014 11:22 AM

Re: Remember that time I let someone borrow my truck?
 
Then I found some metal shavings in the oil pan.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps43999c6a.jpg

79Betty 02-15-2014 11:28 AM

Re: Remember that time I let someone borrow my truck?
 
Dang. Big things go boom!! Hope the block is salvageable!

cory d 02-15-2014 11:47 AM

Re: Remember that time I let someone borrow my truck?
 
i had no shift indicator when i had an automatic. let 2 other people drive, they had to try the gear to find which one was drive. haha. they could have counted 3 clicks down but thats too hard. no one drives my truck unless i am in it.

Rellim51 02-15-2014 11:50 AM

Re: Remember that time I let someone borrow my truck?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 79Betty (Post 6526984)
Dang. Big things go boom!! Hope the block is salvageable!

It's not. Maybe it will make a cool coffee table someday though.

bigwheel15 02-15-2014 01:31 PM

Re: Remember that time I let someone borrow my truck?
 
Those "shavings" in the pan, understatement of the year lol.

Rellim51 02-16-2014 10:27 PM

Re: Remember that time I let someone borrow my truck?
 
I started on the new engine. I'm swapping in a Comp Cams Extreme Energy 262 cam and matching valve springs. I'll also be using the thin FelPro head gasket shims to bump compression a little. Here's what the new engine looked like inside.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps043678a6.jpg

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...pse83b8b84.jpg

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps7c8e9610.jpg

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...psb91d6586.jpg

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps0e2a3e11.jpg

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...psfe7906ea.jpg

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps13c3e5ef.jpg

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps774d7d50.jpg

meatwagon83 02-16-2014 10:30 PM

Re: Remember that time I let someone borrow my truck?
 
well it has a melling oil pump

Rellim51 02-16-2014 11:06 PM

Re: Remember that time I let someone borrow my truck?
 
Yeah, I was kinda surprised about that.

y5mgisi 02-17-2014 01:53 AM

Re: Remember that time I let someone borrow my truck?
 
I kinda want one now.

hopped up 02-17-2014 02:12 AM

Re: Remember that time I let someone borrow my truck?
 
Whoa !! Snapped the cam? Damn!!

rusty76 02-17-2014 10:11 PM

Re: Remember that time I let someone borrow my truck?
 
I let my step father borrow my truck once. He broke my CB antenna in a parking garage. I was upset. From then on out I never did let him use it. Only other time I let anybody use my truck was my buddies wife. She needed to get home from our race to go to church so I let her drive my truck. She spun tires out of the parking lot. Always get a laugh out of that....Glad to see you're working on your truck and making progress.

cadillac_al 02-18-2014 08:20 PM

Re: Remember that time I let someone borrow my truck?
 
Man, there's a lot of cool markings everywhere inside that engine. Interesting to see. It's also interesting to see those intake ports haven't changed in 35-40 years or so. I'm surprised they still use cork gaskets too. It's screaming for some chevy orange paint. Cool story and cool rebuild. You'll be back in the saddle in no time.

When somebody wants to borrow one of my vehicles, most likely it will be one of the trucks rather than one of my Caddys. the trucks are easier to fix.

dbash 02-18-2014 08:53 PM

Re: Remember that time I let someone borrow my truck?
 
Your taking this well and definitely turning it into a big positive. I hate hearing this happened but your write up is great.

The only way anyone will drive my truck without me in the cab is if I am in a casket in the back..... with the exception of my son but he will have to prove he knows what is what a couple times first....


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