69 Camaro front valance and spoiler on a 67 c10?
 

Hello everyone.. new to the site and have some ideas I want to get input on.
Along the same lines as this discussion I just read about the front spoiler... Im looking to retrofit a front valance with the fog lights and spoiler from a 69 Camaro onto my 67 c10. I currently have the traditional roll pan up there but I feel like being a little different. Im even toying with the idea of something along the lines of the second pic. I think they both would look great. Anyone have any ideas on this?

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This could be cool, there's another sub-forum for photoshoppers, if you post there im sure someone could make it happen, i love the idea!

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Looks very nice

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Thanks but really its a 30 footer right now... about to start over on everything the PO did... The body prep is not very good at all and the paint looks like it was done in a gravel lot in a wind storm by a blindfolded dude lol.

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Thanks, Ill have to look for that sub-forum and see what happens.

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This is a render I did of what I'm planning on doing on my Jimmy project, along the same lines:

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Sectioned and stretched 67-68 Camaro bumpers, dimple died roll pan, and a Spoilers by Randy spoiler. Grill is a 71-72 GMC grill with the horizontals removed. Also considering recessing the fogs into the pan.

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That looks AWESOME! The bumper is exactly what Im looking for too. Wasnt sure until I saw this.

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A little better look at what Im working with.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chPp..._W-S8kPAyvPdMg

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Also planning on doing sectioned and stretched Camaro bumper with a pan on the rear. I already did the dimples on the rear pan, here's a pic so you know what I'm talking about:

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The rear would be a '69 bumper, the '67s and '68s are flat across the bottom and the '69s have a rise over the plate which would work better since there isn't a whole lot of room between the plate pocket in the pan and the bottom of the open tailgate.

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I did a photoshop of something like this on one our trucks years ago ... its here on the board somewhere. No idea if I have it on a computer anymore.

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How do you go about doing something like that?

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Have you seen this truck? No spoiler but Camaro (obviously modified) bumpers front and rear (link below pics).

IMO you should only run a valence if you're going to run air ride. It only looks cool if it's dropped low, but if it's low it's going to scrape and get caught up on stuff (I have trouble driving my lowered mustang around in my area, and I only lowered it an inch).

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...1&d=1389761746

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...547893&page=10

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I dont plan on slamming it to the ground , what i have in mind is a mid 80s early 90s C4 Vette front suspension and cross member and coil overs in back. It will have more of a race stance than a slammed stance... and should perform well.
Theres a local guy doing the Vette suspensions around here that does beautiful work. I can get the full setup for the front for 400 bucks here and he has the jig and all to install it correctly. 1500 for labor.
That pic with the Camaro front and rear bumpers is exactly what Im looking for. Do you have a pic from the front of that?

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Click the link below the pic. That's the build thread with more pics (not my truck so I don't have more pics).

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There are more pics of that grey truck around somewhere, lots of body work to make that happen the way he did it, and pretty sure the bumpers were attached to the bodywork so in that sense they are more like trim pieces than functioning bumpers. Don't get me wrong it's awesome work.

The plan on mine is to have bumpers that are at least as functional as they were on the Camaros, which isn't much, but it's something. The grey trucks "bumpers" if bumped will likely mangle the sheet metal behind them as much or more than if they weren't there.

Possmguts, what are you asking about how to do, the dimples or the sectioning? Oh and by the way, what you are describing is pretty much what I'm doing, you may want to scan my build thread.

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Good Lord! I was just looking to see how he did the bumpers and came back with a life time of wet dreams!

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This is mine. Not as modified as some but it is differant and it's a one of a kind.

If the Camaro front end is grafted on to the truck it will take a lot of modifications to the radiator support and front end.;)


http://67-72chevytrucks.com/gallery/data/580/71TPI1.jpg

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Not the whole front end.. just the valance. Im thinking it can be cut and grafted to a roll pan and fit the same. The spoiler should then fit like it does on the camaro with a couple brackets... maybe.

Nice truck by the way

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Andy,
Your air dam is from an '88ish truck isn't it?

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Ive seen this photochop a few times... i think it looks awesome..
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...1&d=1195611545

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Hey that's the one I did ages ago ... right click save ... thanks!

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Yup... comes up on google

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Yes, I do believe it's a 89. They made the solid one like mine and had the one with square cutouts for driving lights. I almost got it but got this one instead.;)

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Yea, I have one of those later gen air dams, the one with the fog cutouts, and that was the original plan, but it just doesn't go with the roll pan. When it's behind a bumper it looks great, but those later trucks have a pointier nose and the angles just don't mesh when you put the two together. Shame too because aftermarket replacement '88 dams are dirt cheap, cheap enough to just keep a few spares around if you ever hang one up on a parking curb.

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It does look awesome.....but it also looks like an S10 scale truck, and it isn't. Those hide away doors would be the size of a Frisbee, a C10 is getting close to a foot wider than a first gen Camaro so all that stuff would be giant scale and not simply stretched Camaro pieces. Not to say it couldn't be done, but it would all need to be fabbed from scratch I think.

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Yeah, I was just goofing around with Photoshop. Definitely much easier than doing it in real life lol

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I'm a big Camaro lover too! That would be a nice ride done correctly. I would love to have my 2 favorite vehicles rolled into one.:metal:




http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...1&d=1195611545

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Here you go http://www.spoilersbyrandy.com/Pages...ckspoiler.aspx

Also the 90s era air dam fits the contours perfect.

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I dont see the "Scaled S-10" look in this.... I IS sweet... but Im gonna stick with everything under the grill. Havnt fully decided on the bumper yet or not.

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Here are the pics of my 90's era valence fitted with wide beam Rigid SR-4s. They are always on when the key is on and work really well. With the wide pattern I mounted them flush into the valence so they are pointing outward. Great daytime running lights and excellent fog lights. The only time they are blinding to other motorists is on winding roads when vehicles approach from an angle.

One of the photos is from Going to the Sun in Glacier just coming out of a thick fog on Logan Pass. The other is from an angle so you can see the aim and the final one was me on the way to winning the Goodguys Autocross in Phoenix (just threw that one in there to brag :lol:)

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... I'm scared to ask about that second picture lol

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yours looks much better than the yellow one GM actually did.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/gallery/...and_camaro.jpg

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The render I posted is intended to look like the Spoilers by Randy piece. One issue though with his spoilers is that they are made out of like 20ga steel so they end up being the most fragile piece of body work in the worst location and they are not the cheapest piece in the world. It is still what I plan to use but I also realize that I probably need to have a couple replacements on hand and treat it like a potentially consumable part.

Like I said earlier the late '80s, early '90s era 454 SS airdam does look great behind a bumper but not against an roll pan. If you have both pieces in hand there is no way to make these two look good together. I was sure that was what I was going to use for mine, even the original render I did used one:

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Here is the actual piece test fit before the body came off the frame:

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But once I had the rollpan in hand there was no way it was going to work.

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I like the big lights man!
I would look at cutting some spots for them in the roll pan. They are really going to block up the air flow into the engine bay don't you think to the radiator. Just a thought:chevy:

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Actually on mine that is why a spoiler is all that much more important to get that ground air into the radiator. Most modern cars have very little frontal grill area and get all their radiator air from below the "bumper". My truck is also going to have Trans Am fender extractors and a cowl hood so that the area behind the radiator doesn't become a high pressure area. I am also planning on a big ol' custom Ron Davis radiator with two 16" high flow fans for a 4.2 liter aluminum straight 6.

In the end the chin spoiler will actually work out better for me than the originally planned airdam anyway, with the airdam I would have had to try and draw air through the punched ports in the roll pan where with the chin spoiler I can scoop air behind the roll pan. I also plan on making a duct to block off the space between the frame rails and direct the air up to the core support. No matter how you look at it I don't think cooling is going to be an issue.

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Mine, fiber glass, no lights

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You sure it's fiberglass? looks like unobtainium to me. :lol:

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Ok then it sounds like you have the right plan! Got any more progress pictures of it?:chevy:

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There is lots of pics of it all in my build thread "Madera" in my signature. The chassis is at Porterbuilt in Arizona right now, so progress will start up again once it comes back.

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I'm in awe! That is some build thread man! Dang I wouldn't even want to think about what kind of money you have in that build.
:chevy: