JS LSX Turbo complete kits...anyone heard of this?
Lately I've been reading a lot of threads and watch videos trying to do my home work on a turbo swap for my truck. I just ran across this video on youtube of this guy who offers turbo kits for lsx motors. Only thing is he doesn't give a price unless ur actually ready to do ur turbo build but from the videos I've seen it seems like a good deal. This kit would be perfect for me as I have little to no fab skills at all...don't even know how to weld yet.Has anyone heard of or dealt with this guy before?
Here is one of his vids....http://youtu.be/Isg85uifGmI |
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Sounds like someone is trying to make a quick buck. $100 for an initial consultation? Didn't really go into details of what type or sizes of turbos, what type of material of manifolds, size of injectors, etc...He sounds more like a used cars saleman trying to selling a kit with different options. Most likely the turbos, wastegates, BOVs are chinese made from Ebay.
I can see he is trying to make a quick put together kits from the video. I know I wouldn't use a 90 degree silicon elbow to the throttle body. He could have gotten an aluminum elbow and use a straight connector to minimize flexing or boost leak. If you don't know how to turbo, its best to get a shop to do it and you can learn from it. Just a quick search, I found a kit that looks like his. http://www.ebay.com/itm/CHEVY-SBC-28...30e6b7&vxp=mtr |
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Hes all talk
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He might be all talk but he's had some fast ls car's.. check the little 280 z out,, 5.7's is kinda fast. anyways here's a guy on ls1tech is selling a looks like a great kit that might work on a truck...
http://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-ind...kit-build.html I do have a mustang with ls,,, thought of going to his setup.... and doing away with the nos setup. here's my mustang https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtbooZoGZmQ |
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On3 performance uses Chinese turbos, wastegates, etc. I am familiar with them, a friend of mine uses their kit...That guy in the youtube posted by the original poster is not On3.
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If you spend some time on the ls1tech forced induction forum you will see tons of Chinese stuff going super fast.
Can you fab? VS Racing has the "Denmah Special" that has pretty much all you need for like 800 bucks. |
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Im trying to figure everything out.... like what turbo I need to get for the kinda power I want to get. The truck is just for the street not track. I would like 450-500 to the wheels. The engine would be bone stock except from what I've read so far, it'll be better to have dual valve springs. And i'll have to the get the 4L60 beefed up for that power obviously. Im trying to find all the parts i'll need for the build as well. Im getting pretty serious about this build...we have a 2015 f350 super duty on work and the way that turbo diesel pulls that heavy ass thing is crazy lol...I want that for my truck. I probably wont be able to do the build right away but im starting to plan for it now.
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here's that ebay kit thread...http://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-ind...-ebay-kit.html I don't know how to fab but i'll have to learn if I want to do this. i'll be doing the turbo build at the same shop where I did the 5.3 swap and the guy said he built turbo motors before so I guess it'll be ok |
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just found these vids on justchevytrucks youtube channel...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ney9GOUv9K0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNbeeCVLJZQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFmTY3AMshs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv9zMp6t56I |
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Read this thread: http://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-ind...turbo-kit.html
Or check out Wasted Income's Family Hauler thread on here. I looked at your build thread and it seems like you should be mechanically inclined enough to do a turbo on your own. Just pick up a 110 mig and get some practice in before you start and you will save thousands. |
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Kool!! Thanks for the link
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How's he gonna weld Stainless or Alum with a basic 110 mig?
I agree he's prob capable enough of putting something together tho, but personally I wouldn't try to "learn" mig welding on tube, for a turbo application. Ivorton, for the power levels you want, you have a ton of wiggle room and choices for parts. I'd really consider having some vbands or flanges welded onto flipped truck manifolds, which has been done 100's of times, and can easily put the turbo where you'd like it. Chinese turbos' can go fast, you just have to be a bit more diligent in WHERE you get it from, and making sure that your getting exactly what you want. Starting with the truck manifolds, some flanges, a bend kit like Tiny posted, your already well on your way. Used Holset's can also be nice if you want "factory" type parts. My .04 cents. |
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I agree about the learning to weld part though. Welding tube isn't too much different once you know how to weld but learning on a curve is just making it harder on yourself. |
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Good point about the welding...learning to weld on tubes would be hard for a novice like me. I was just look at a some vids of a kid in florida with 4.8 in a ford Fairmont and he made his own kit using just truck manifolds and tubing and it turned out pretty good...here's the vid if u want to check it out...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr3HpPYGeF0...Using the manifolds seems to be the easiest way to do the kit with that piping kit on the site Tiny posted. Also I do see alotta turbo threads with guys using those Chinese gt35 and gt45 turbos and making good power without issues...even them guys on justchevytrucks are using them so maybe i'll use one of those. btw do I have to use the truck manifolds or would the fbody ones I have on the truck work too? I'm gonna have a ton of questions.
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I havent read all of this thread but just spend the extra $$ and got a borg warner turbo instead of the $300 china stuff. Genuine b/w turbos can be had new for $6/700.
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I saw those b/w turbos on ebay...those are pretty good for the price.
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Came across this on ls1tech....http://shop.huronspeedproducts.com/G...7-truckhot.htm. would this work on an older truck?
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Its not a bad kit. Good thickness on the parts. The 2.5 inch hotside is a bit large. They might be able to tell you if it will fit if you call them over the phone.
Check this guy out: http://www.one-guys-garage.com/ Depending where you are in South Dakota it might be worth driving it there and having him build you a custom kit (and any other custom work you want). His shop rate is $55 an hour. |
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Dirty Dingo sells a turbo manifold with crossover kit. http://dirtydingo.com/store/product_...oducts_id=1439
Looks like it uses a stock cast manifold for the pass side, with the crossover at the rear of the motor. |
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@ tiny...that shop is about 5 hours away from where i am in Northeastern SD so not that far away. Looks like an impressive shop...guy did some sweet turbo cars.
@83silverado....that kit looks great as well...theres alot of options...just gotta figure out which is the best way to go |
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Where does the blow off valve usually go?
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If your thinking about turbo-ing the lsx in that big body chevy you have a more room than just about anyone for options.
If it were me I would take the time to build my own with reverse truck manifolds or buy a kit based off that. Those log manifolds dont look all that enticing to me. The idea of a "turbo kit" is kind of funny when you think about. |
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I just contacted One Guy Garage over in Minnesota and they said about $3500 for a budget turbo kit made with mild steel tubing with a Chinese turbo, intercooler, wastegate and bov with potential for about 600hp and if I drop off the truck it would be done in about 2 weeks. They said if I want stainless steel piping with American made components it'll be more. There's a 71 c10 on their site that has a 6.0 turbo and he said that setup cost about $6000.
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@tiny thanks again for the link...its a pretty good site. I just joined it
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Im leaning towards getting a borg warner turbo but which one should i go with? Will a s475 or s480 76mm turbo be good for a stock street 5.3 or are they too big?
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I've seen the s475 a bunch of times on LS's. Realistically you won't see "max" boost on either turbo with that small of a motor, but that doesn't mean they don't work.
the 475 would be making over 450 at ~12-15psi, with a sh!t ton of room to grow. Seen them pushed 20ish psi making near 600. The s400's are physically large tho, just keep it in mind when deciding where to put it. |
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What size piping is good for the hotside, cross-over, downpipe and intercooler? My buddy is going to be building the kit using mild steel and he already has the truck manifolds.
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Thanks man...that was a great thread. I'll probably go with 2.25'' piping. I saw some good intercooler kits on cxracing's ebay store so I'll probably go with one of those.
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Most of the charge piping can be bought in bend kids and fastened with silicon couplers or strap bands (even v bands), so you can avoid having access to a TIG if you don't. Alum and SS allow for a thinner wall on the same size tube, while retaining the strength that you'd need in that situation. This means a cut in weight over the total length of the piping, and a physically smaller footprint..as a start. Lets say you have 10ft of tubing on your cold side/charge pipe/intercooler etc. For steel Formula: Wt/Ft = (*OD - *WT) x *WT x 10.69
Now if I compare that to aluminum; ..i got lazy but,, for the same diameter, its only about .5lb /ft, cutting the calculated weight to only 5 lbs. Stainless on the hot side allows for thinner wall thickness for weight savings as well, but I won't start doing those numbers unless your interested. |
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Man BREW...you really know ur stuff man. Thats why when i start a thread i always look forward to ur posts. I would go with stainless steel but my buddy said he doesn't know how to weld that so thats why im going with mild steel. Aren't those ebay intercooler piping made out of aluminum or are they cheapo materials?
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I've used the ebay GodSpeed units before, and they were actually pretty nicely made aluminum. There are a few floating around made from galvanized, but I see less and less of those.
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Stick with aluminum for intercooler tubings. Buy couple of U bends and start cutting and connect with silicon couplers. You want aluminum for the heat dissipations. Using mild steels or especially stainless steel will soak in heat.
As for the sizes of the intercooler pipings. Don't order the sizes until you have the intercooler and turbo in your hands. Because the inlet and outlet of the intercooler will dictate the sizes of the pipes. Majority of the times, they are 2.5 but sometimes 2 or 3 inches depending on how large the intercooler is. Then also the sizes of the compressor housing of the turbo will come into play. For the turbo manifolds. Some people will use mild steels to help keep the costs down but those will crack in about 6-8 months. Or those Ebay stainless manifold from China, they will crack just as fast too. If you want the best, some company uses schedule 40 stainless. http://www.amazon.com/Dirty-Dingo-Motorsports-Turb... Here is one I really like and will probably use when I am done with my LS swap. But you have to be fluent in turbo for this manifold. http://www.ebay.com/itm/271697172489...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT |
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Oh yeah... I actually have that manifold on my watch list on ebay and justchevytrucks had a video on youtube about it. It looks like its a pretty decent manifold. The dirty dingo looks good too. I don't really have any other choice but to use the mild steel. I guess i'll be taking a chance with that.
I'll get the aluminum intercooler...cxracing has a complete kit...intercooler, piping, couplers and even a bov with the flange. I'll have to make sure and check the space behind the grille so I don't get an intercooler that's too big. |
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Not all BOV's use the same flange, and you'll also need a wastegate flange if your making the hotside yourself, which will need to be welded in.
Mild steel can sag and weaken after seeing 1400+ temps from the heat, but the reality is it'll probably take 3-4years at least to get cycled enough for that to really happen (assuming its not a daily ). By then, you'll have saved up enough to have one of us fancy-weldin folks to make you a stainless one :) |
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