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Steve-W 09-07-2015 02:18 PM

1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
So.. as we are currently rebuilding my 69 C10, my mate and I weren't looking for a new project for the two of us. But then came along this Matching numbers 1950 GMC 3100 with I think a 235 CI motor and three on the tree manual.
We haven't picked it up yet, that'll happen the 19th of this month. but here are some pictures. As you can see a lot of work has already been done by the previous owner. we'll respect the color sceme and we'll rebuild it completely stock.

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto540-6BSUVCHT.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto540-HWJCLVM8.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto540-BUACZVOJ.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto540-CS7GZZOS.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto540-CYKUEDUV.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto540-JF84G6MF.jpg

Don't hate the hater, but as much as I like the example below..I hate the wheels and the bellyscaping...but it could turn out something like this
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto540-463ZXUQV.jpg

updates will follow when we have the truck in the shop!

Advanced Design 09-07-2015 02:49 PM

Re: 1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
Great looking truck! Looks like it is close to being finished up.

RockinKees 09-07-2015 03:05 PM

Re: 1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
Some guys have all the luck!!

Good looking truck Steve, is it complete with registration and all??
I'll follow along ;)

74project 09-07-2015 03:30 PM

Re: 1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
holy crap that white truck is amazing....

Steve-W 09-07-2015 05:44 PM

Re: 1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Advanced Design (Post 7301197)
Great looking truck! Looks like it is close to being finished up.

yeah well it's a bit of a mystery untill be pick it up. I saw the doors and the hood are still in the bondo stage and the bed is still in it's original paint..so we're expecting some work there. but in the end it all looked good enough to take the gamble..because personally, finishing somebody elses project isn't my cup of tea :) I want to do it from scratch.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockinKees (Post 7301207)
Some guys have all the luck!!
Good looking truck Steve, is it complete with registration and all??
I'll follow along ;)

Complete american title that is yes, it got imported to the Netherlands in '95 or '96 and has never been finished..
oh and this luck Kees..comes at a price, don't be thinking this was a freebie :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by 74project (Post 7301232)
holy crap that white truck is amazing....

you mean the last picture? besides the wheels and the stand :) but yes, it's something we can look at as a guideline. definetly the black grill, runningboards and the hood and window trim is cool.

YahamaR1 09-07-2015 09:47 PM

Re: 1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
Nice truck...
Will be following this build

iowaboynca 09-07-2015 11:43 PM

Re: 1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
Nice truck!!!
FYI...if its a numbers matching truck, that's not a 235 but probably GMC 228, one of the 'Jimmy 6s"...either way a very solid truck!
:gmc2:

iowaboynca 09-07-2015 11:53 PM

Re: 1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
Nice truck!!!
FYI...if its a numbers matching truck, that's not a 235 but probably GMC 228, one of the 'Jimmy 6s"...either way a very solid truck!
:gmc2:

Steve-W 09-08-2015 03:50 AM

Re: 1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
Thanks for the positive responses guys, gives me the feeling we didn't buy a lemon :)

I'm trying to decode the VIN, but I could do with some help, because Google searches don't get me anyware.

if it cost money, could someone run a report and I'll pay upfront through paypal?

Steve-W 09-20-2015 06:07 PM

Re: 1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
After a couple of nights without any sleep it was finally time to pick up the truck. Saterday morning we first picked up the flatbed trailer and stuck some wrapping materials in the van.
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto540-H3EMHVQF.jpg

driving there we were quite nervous, because we thought it would be a nice day, but the rain was relentless. But as we pulled up, the rain stopped and it turned out to be a reasonable day, which became perfect when we laid eyes on our new truck.
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto540-OLYPURXT.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto540-WNNQ7BD3.jpg

So cool, we drove it onto the trailer under it's own steam. the engine, gearbox works all very well!
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto540-SG438YA4.jpg

It's in a better place now...OUR garage hahaha. it looks like a proper car shop now. '68 Charger, 71' Cuda, '50 3100 and the '69 C10
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto540-CACQRR7F.jpg

We put the hood on just to look if it lines out and it lookes good.
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto360-VOUMQN3G.jpg

So what have we done so far? cleaned off all the dust. Sorting, Sorting, sorting, sorting. mounted the right headlight and chrome rings. assembled the parking brake, which was missing the rods and put in a new spring in the gear selector lever.
There is so much stuff to go through in about 15 crates that came with the car, but we'll figure it out, or I'll just ask you guys :)

Advanced Design 09-20-2015 08:28 PM

Re: 1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
Yep, looks like a good one. Nice shop too!

oldman3 09-20-2015 11:27 PM

Re: 1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
Congrats on getting it home, and playing with it...Jim

ptc 09-21-2015 12:44 PM

Re: 1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
Not a hater or anything - but your shop? - with all that AMERICAN Muscle? ---- I just think it all still belongs in America....;) Dont you guys have some Volvos or SAABS you can hot rod up??? :lol: lol

OK - Just kidding guys I am so GLAD to see that HOT RODDING is a world wide universal thing.... Welcome to "Muscle Club" :flag:

RockinKees 09-21-2015 02:37 PM

Re: 1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
Congratz on bringing the Great White home!!

Nice shop you have there!

Steve-W 09-21-2015 03:55 PM

Re: 1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ptc (Post 7315653)
Not a hater or anything - but your shop? - with all that AMERICAN Muscle? ---- I just think it all still belongs in America....;) Dont you guys have some Volvos or SAABS you can hot rod up??? :lol: lol
OK - Just kidding guys I am so GLAD to see that HOT RODDING is a world wide universal thing.... Welcome to "Muscle Club" :flag:

Except for DAF and Spyker any other car we work on is foreign anyway..so better keep the american muscle alive right?
you’d be suprised how many US classics we got driving around in this tiny country.
Shop is maby a bit overrated, we’re all hobby mechanics. The owner of the cuda is an orthodontist . my friend who’s helping me on my truck and the 3100 does something with airplane parts. The owner of the charger has an office job at Nissan and I sell enterprise hardware at Dell. (I hope you don’t mind me working for an AMERICAN company?)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockinKees (Post 7315760)
Congratz on bringing the Great White home!!
Nice shop you have there!

Thanks Kees and Great White is quite a catchy name 

Steve-W 09-22-2015 04:30 PM

Re: 1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iowaboynca (Post 7301822)
Nice truck!!!
FYI...if its a numbers matching truck, that's not a 235 but probably GMC 228, one of the 'Jimmy 6s"...either way a very solid truck!
:gmc2:

yup, it's a 228. but what does the "Jimmy 6" mean? EDIT: GEE 'EM...Jimmy for slang..right, got it!
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/foto540-K46WATKL.jpg

Steve-W 09-27-2015 03:30 PM

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Working on the truck last Friday and came across some rot when we disassembled the parking brake. we'll have to strip it bare and see what's hidden underneeth, because we think there might be more than meets the eye.
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto360-IDYBJEP6.jpg

and now for some questions..we wanted to mock up the door, just to figure out how all the trim goes in and in what sequense....
how in the world do you get the outer door window trim in and without damaging the paint?
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto360-ZDQW4JMV.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto360-IEBMHZQH.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto360-K6JFSIDC.jpg

Were missing one of the mounting rings for the front parklights , I'm told there are not for sale..is that true? if so I'll open a thread in the classifieds.
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto360-IJUNECWI.jpg

can anybody tell me why there are 2 holes in the side vent? what belongs there?
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto360-IQH7FWAZ.jpg

Steve-W 10-22-2015 08:33 PM

Re: 1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
And now for some bad news...

the PO took off the vin tag to paint the body, our dutch DMV doesn't like that we found out. so we called them, and they'rer actually sending somebody to come and check if our truck is legit, or just a great pile of scrap metal..

We [being the idiots] ofcourse blindly trusted the PO when we bought the truck. I mean, c'mon! it's my mates neighbor, so surely he wouldn't have the stones to play us?
Now if we look closely, the vin tag has a different number then the title... so we'll just have to wait and see what's going to happen.

In the mean time, we didn't sit still. we installed the doors to fit them and see how straight they align with the body, also we put in the front window.
the doors look great, just need to be sanded lightly and then painted.
the front windows went in in 20min time, but we have a delux seal, so it needs a trim which we don't have yet. we were also contemplating a rubber molding to go in there, but not sure what would fit.
We also ha d 1 hole in the floor panel, that had to be fixed, so we cut it out, welded in a new piece and glued in some washers, because the bolts come from the bottem up.
then sanded it down and it's waiting for paint.
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto360-IQEKSMJD.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto720-XTDRVCXZ.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto360-JUSOCMC4.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto360-8DLZBL46.jpg


came across a beautiful 47 chevy in the parts shop/garage:
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto360-7GTUXNM7.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto360-C3U7IPBG.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto360-ODZ4K8KS.jpg

RockinKees 10-24-2015 04:25 PM

Re: 1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
Steve, I see your truck is going the right way ;)
Keep at it!!

I know someone who has an AD truck and has serious troubles to get it registered, also wrong numbers...Hope it works out for you!

Nice '37! You've got a lot of nice cars in your shop :metal:

GreasyLikeaBurger 10-25-2015 12:47 AM

Re: 1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
You could always order a new VIN plate and stamp the number on it thats on the paperwork. Of course you would need to check with your DMV and see that its ok to "restore" the VIN plate.
http://www.classicparts.com/1950-Doo.../#.VixelNKrSHs

Steve-W 10-25-2015 05:25 PM

Re: 1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
the 27th someone of the DMV will come by the shop and look at it all.
keep your fingers crossed!

Chevy-49 10-25-2015 05:38 PM

Re: 1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve-W (Post 7353273)
the 27th someone of the DMV will come by the shop and look at it all.
keep your fingers crossed!

Does the DMV guy also stamp the vin number onto the frame/chassis?

Steve-W 10-28-2015 08:04 PM

Re: 1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chevy-49 (Post 7353280)
Does the DMV guy also stamp the vin number onto the frame/chassis?

The guy came by yesterday, listened to what we had to say and took all his impressions, foto's and notes back to their office where they'll deliberate whether everything pans out.

if we get their approval, they'll "seal" the car, which means we can apply for a dutch registration ones the build is finished, but we cannot change anything until then. So engine, drivetrain etc etc has to stay as is.

pfff nerveracking!

Advanced Design 10-28-2015 08:36 PM

Re: 1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
Good luck for the approval.

What is the reasoning on why changes aren't allowed?

iowaboynca 10-28-2015 10:41 PM

Re: 1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Advanced Design (Post 7357171)

What is the reasoning on why changes aren't allowed?

Probably the Dutch reasoning of making sure everything is square before you can register it there.

Steve-W 10-29-2015 07:56 PM

Re: 1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iowaboynca (Post 7357335)
Probably the Dutch reasoning of making sure everything is square before you can register it there.

Yup, thats it exactly

Steve-W 11-09-2015 07:08 PM

Re: 1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
Small update, because we're mostly busy painting some trim and sorting stuff waiting for the DMV. but in the mean time we contacted the company who imported this truck back in 1996(!) to see if they still had any records..

no was the answer, but the guy said that when he's back in Holland (he roaming around Cali looking for cars) he's be able to help us out for $1000,-...
ehhh let's see what his plan is before forking over the money.
tbc!

Steve-W 11-24-2015 06:45 PM

Re: 1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
Still no update on the DMV stuff, so busy ordering bits and pieces, painting and repairing the steering wheel.
We visited a small old-timer meeting in a former car museum, which is now converted to a conference center.
http://myalbum.com/photo/wKOLBb0kqIqW/360.jpg
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http://myalbum.com/photo/rMvi6jMAyBml/360.jpg
http://myalbum.com/photo/BFcl8dr8yOws/360.jpg

My favorits? the 50's Cab-over truck and the panel van...yes I like patina :)

Steve-W 12-13-2015 06:55 PM

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Got an update from the guy who originally imported this truck and he claims to have a solution for the DMV problem, so my pal will visit him the week before x-mas to see what how and who.

We haven't been sitting on our arses though, well...I have been working mostly on my c10 while Ferry (yes that's my pal's actual name) has done everything on the 3100. He concentrated on the bed wood, because he had a stack of tropical hardwood (bankirai or something like that) laying around for years.

so after measuring it was clear this would fit the bill excactly in thickness, all that had to be done was cut them to the correct lenth and width.
then make the groves with a wood router. to bad I didn't take any pictures of that, but here is the finished product (well...still have to sink the rings and then sand, sand, sand, laquer, sand, laquer etc etc
http://myalbum.com/photo/3Snhfn5Bgl3H/360.jpg
http://myalbum.com/photo/2qjRgDiI5w2v/360.jpg
http://myalbum.com/photo/LG2tuwhyt3av/360.jpg
http://myalbum.com/photo/lbjtwyyyqRdZ/360.jpg

RockinKees 12-14-2015 03:57 PM

Re: 1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
Hope it works out for you, that registration problem!

Woodwork looks good in the back ;)

Steve-W 12-14-2015 05:02 PM

Re: 1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RockinKees (Post 7410129)
Hope it works out for you, that registration problem!

Woodwork looks good in the back ;)

thanks, we're first mocking everything up, to see how everything fits together. then we disassemble, paint and the put it all together.

one of the problem's we found is that the aftermarket front bed panel sits about an inch to low. we can solve the bolts not lining up, but optically it's just a bit off.

RockinKees 12-14-2015 05:33 PM

Re: 1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
Panel from Prins Trucks?
Let him measure an other one to see if this is a wrong piece.
Before you drill and weld something that's not nessesary....

Steve-W 03-01-2016 06:39 AM

Re: 1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RockinKees (Post 7410276)
Panel from Prins Trucks?
Let him measure an other one to see if this is a wrong piece.
Before you drill and weld something that's not nessesary....

We already figured it out by adjusting a few holes, so it fits nicely now.
we pulled it apart again, because the bedsides and fenders are going to need a hell of a lot TLC, but more about that later!
we have been finishing the doors. all painted and assembled. I'm amazed how easy these doors go in compared to my '69.
http://myalbum.com/photo/lLE0GUIeh71w/360.jpg
http://myalbum.com/photo/U13lM33VFsRh/360.jpg
http://myalbum.com/photo/ldqprPYmQwlF/360.jpg
http://myalbum.com/photo/vhUn9qfgNslK/360.jpg

then the outer trim was put in place, this is such a #$!$%$ job...so easy to scratch the paint, which we did of course, but nothing that can be fixed.
in stead of screws we re-drilled the holes and used rivets to hold them in.
http://myalbum.com/photo/GMUzNRnCy4We/360.jpg
http://myalbum.com/photo/iuQn3x0CJsah/360.jpg

We tackled a other big hurdle, hood alignment!
we followed the incomprehensible description on Stovebolt, but managed to get the hood where we wanted. we had to ad a shim to the radiator support and loosened all the fender bolts. we will have to widen some hole in order to get everything buttoned up again, but this is where we are at the moment.
http://myalbum.com/photo/VeUEu7aQy0gj/360.jpg
http://myalbum.com/photo/NtR8clnZtMhX/360.jpg
http://myalbum.com/photo/sXqBS1lcfbsY/360.jpg

Big Daddy Bear 03-01-2016 01:15 PM

Re: 1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
Very nice! Love that simple, clean look!!

RockinKees 03-01-2016 03:31 PM

Re: 1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
It's coming along Steve!
In the pics the hood sits pretty good!

Steve-W 03-02-2016 08:06 PM

Re: 1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
thanks guys! Friday night we'll see if we can get it even tighter, if not it's coming off for paint.

in the meantime, I've opened a thread in the parts section, because we're looking for the center dash cover and glove box door.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...69#post7506969

Chevy-49 03-03-2016 11:10 AM

Re: 1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
Did you solved the DMV problem

Steve-W 03-03-2016 01:22 PM

Re: 1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chevy-49 (Post 7507851)
Did you solved the DMV problem

Nope, not yet. But somebody is working on it and at the end of March we should be out of the woods

Steve-W 03-11-2016 06:08 PM

Re: 1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
Ferry did some amzing work on one of the hood corners, it was missing a piece due to rust, and he tig welded a small piece in, looks amazing!
http://myalbum.com/photo/3gv3ZnE1umzl/360.jpg

http://myalbum.com/photo/ryAipACsptc4/360.jpg

we also completed the doors and found out that the damn aftermarket window regulators are off by an inch!
http://myalbum.com/photo/DCi2gvz0x6jc/360.jpg

http://myalbum.com/photo/KR9ybE786WYx/360.jpg
so the 2 choices we have is: buy new regulators, or make brake which will cause the window to stick out of the door in the rolled down position..any thoughts?

we then installed inside window fellt and screw it tight. still it sticks out a bit above the trim..is this normal?
http://myalbum.com/photo/084GfBomYE7q/360.jpg
http://myalbum.com/photo/kEiQSBCC8Cin/360.jpg

put in the door panels, but we need the trim, 'cause they are bulging and that makes it look funny.
http://myalbum.com/photo/gc9JuNCEyGuv/360.jpg

Steve-W 04-16-2016 09:56 AM

Re: 1950 GMC 3100 "handmedown" project
 
Time for an update: we have all the right title papers now, so as soon as the build is complete we'll head over to the DMV and get the title transfered to a dutch license.

Ferry got busy with painting the front bed panel, the tailgate and the hood
http://myalbum.com/photo/8y6DrEgTTLdm/360.jpg
http://myalbum.com/photo/0qMkZpZpkyLV/360.jpg
http://myalbum.com/photo/OZIaKUIBumhW/360.jpg
http://myalbum.com/photo/x4dFfXq92bTu/360.jpg

then we mounted the hood and emblems
http://myalbum.com/photo/PRjQRK4Rao86/360.jpg
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http://myalbum.com/photo/emxtv6h6ggwQ/360.jpg

then we mounted one of the running boards, which had already been painted by the PO.. but discovered it has a dent in it, so that'll require some work and probably a fresh paint job.
http://myalbum.com/photo/y6XdPjQfWBhh/360.jpg
http://myalbum.com/photo/2kdNGXtqqfoI/360.jpg

then we took out the bed sides and came to the conclusion they're in horrible shape, so that'll take weeks to get them straight..
http://myalbum.com/photo/TmeMexeUnNoQ/360.jpg
http://myalbum.com/photo/yKKE0azrMCqN/360.jpg
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2 weeks ago I went over to The Hague for a monthly meeting called :Saterday Night Cruise. I'ts a popular meeting with about 200 cars or more visiting, a band and beer. Lot's of nice cars, but just took some photo's of simular models as ours.
http://myalbum.com/photo/tLKUCwrgcrCq/360.jpg
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