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Jinxy's 69 C10 Short Bed - let the journey begin
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Hello everyone, I am new here on the forum but I have been lurking for a few years! My dad bough this 69 Chevy C10 2WD short bed over 20 years ago when he was in the Air Force. I remember him driving it up the driveway the day he got it! He started working on it, removing some rusty rockers and the cab that had rusted around the lip, and installed a new cab from a donor truck. That’s where it stopped. I got into go-kart racing and we spent quite a few years doing that, not to mention quite a bit of money. So now, I’m going to take over funding the project of rebuilding the truck. We are going to do what work we can on it together and probably farm out the body/paint work. My main goal over the next few months is to remove the body, old engine/tranny, suspension etc and get it to the bare frame where I can start cleaning and prepping for suspension updates and painting the frame. I do not want to go overboard on the suspension, but I would like to have a nice stance and handling without having to notch the frame or air bag it with 20” wheels. ECE is highly regarded on this website so I was thinking of the following and I would love to get some advice/thoughts on getting the rolling chassis set up first with the items below. If you think there are better or more cost effective methods please let me know!: -ECE 4/6 drop kit 800.00 -ECE Trailing Arm and Crossmember Kit 689.00 -ECE Disk Brake Conversion 6 Lug 2.5 Drop w/Cross Drilled Rotors 999.00 (need to omit/adj price since the spindles are in the drop kit) -ECE Rear Drum brake Rebuild Kit 239.00 -ECE Front Sway Bar Kit 169.00 I am also starting to research what I need to do to update the rear end as well. I know I will want 6 lug axles, but I am reading that its worth it to omit the c-clip set up and get a beafier retainer system? Suggestions on this along with what Posi to install? Here are some pics of the truck.... http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psvyywv33x.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psxknhbi6v.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...pslm1reulq.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...pskhezqcw0.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psdvszifiv.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...pschtybabf.jpg |
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It sounds like this will be your first complete build. I don't suppose we can talk you out of busting it down further? Usually not.
My suggestion would be to get it running, stopping, maybe even driving. these things will cause the truck to put a smile on your face. that's a nice thing when you start spending money like a drunk sailor with no end in sight. It's real easy to jump off the deep end and the water is really deep quick. Usually what happens is one day you don't feel like working on it and it sits for a week or two. Especially when it's busted apart and you know that you can spends thousands, and months more work and it will not be done. It's intoxicating to dig in with all your might, mind, and strength. At first. Then less as time goes on. If you got it running you could address a ton of issues then worry about ride height once you are on the road. :waah: Good Luck.:metal: |
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Welcome to the board and congratulations on being a Chevy truck owner, you are one lucky guy to get your dads classic truck!
It looks like a well optioned truck that is in fair overall condition. I can see that your pops replaced the roof and started cutting out the cancer in the floor so you are halfway there on the cab repairs, I would order the patch panels and complete the floor repairs, buy Made in the USA only parts because the Chinese stuff fits like crap and causes fit and fair issues. Just a heads up, it will be much cheaper to buy a good Mig welder and do the metal repair yourself than to farm it out, if you don't know how to weld and fabricate now is the time to learn, it is an invaluable skill which will enable you to have the confidence to make any repair and will serve you well in the future. Spend time looking at other peoples builds especially the ones that require extensive rust repair and pay close attention to their technique because you can learn a lot from these guys, they are doing it right and you will learn what to do and what not to do before you even start on the cab repair, learn from them so you do it right the first time. The most important piece of advice I can give you is, slow down, take your time, measure the hell out of everything, be precise. If the truck is currently within reasonable mechanical repair, I'm with cooperhw, do the metal repair, seal it up and put it back together and get it running and driving and enjoy the truck before you tear it down completely for a restomod. |
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I do like the advice of getting it driving and enjoying it. I know for sure the brakes are no good as my dad stated there were basically none when he drove it home. So I would like to get that conversion done and I hate to not go ahead and do some of the suspension upgrades while doing that... |
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Well, slowly but surely we are getting it taken apart. I only get to work on it about every two weeks. Several trips and a lot of time were spend cleaning a path around and to the truck so we could roll it out. The breaks were locked up on the rear so we got them worked loose. This is the first time this truck has been out in the daylight in about 25 years! We removed the bed, the other fender, and radiator support. Next will be cab and drive train and then sand blasting the frame.
Here are some more pics... http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...pshsafnlii.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psudyfjlzd.jpg Dad lifting the bed off with our home made lift/jig http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...pskz6rdrg1.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psujsytwed.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...pske0iwnly.jpg I wish they would have left the original gold color!! http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...pswdm5vtmb.jpg |
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Thank your dad, nice project!
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So you decided to go ahead and do a frame off restoration instead of just getting it driving and enjoying it for awhile. A little bit of advice if I may. Prepare yourself because it's going to take awhile especially if you only work on it a couple of hours every couple of weeks. The longer the project gets drawn out the less motivated you will be to finish it so I advise you to work extremely hard to get it torn apart and to the sand blaster as fast as possible. Once you have it back from the sand blaster seal it up with por-15 rust preventative then assemble it quickly and get it back to a rolling chassis so you have a sense of accomplishment. Do the metal repair on the cab floor then strip the exterior of the floor and seal it with POR-15 rust preventative coating and it will never rust again, ever. Oh and do yourself a favor and wear gloves, old jeans and long sleeve shirt because por-15 is no joke if you get it on your skin it will be on there for over a week. Once you are to this point then the fun starts. |
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Made some very good progress today! We got the cab off and the engine/trans out. I started scraping road grime and grease off and started pressure washing. Next trip I will begin removing suspension so I can get the frame sandblasted. I also gave my dad a haircut during some downtime hahaha
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Try one of these on the roof and anywhere else where you can effectively use it.
Lay it down as flat as possible and only use as much pressure as is needed to remove the rust. Don't try to remove everything on the first pass, you can always go back over it. One disk should be enough to complete the roof and then some. http://www.harborfreight.com/4-1-2-h...eel-94017.html http://www.harborfreight.com/power-t...der-91223.html |
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I have some questions on taking this to get it sand blasted. I will be removing the rear end, trailing arms/trailing arm crossmember (as it will be replaced). I will also be removing the front suspension...is it necessary to remove the front crossmember for sand blasting? I see a lot of people do... |
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Generally the rule of thumb is don't let anyone sand blast sheet metal that has large surface areas with no structural support behind it because it will warp if done incorrectly and it isn't worth the risk, which is why I recommended the polycarbide disk for the roof, you can also use it on the hood, door skin and bedsides.
Sand blasting is usually best in areas with thick metal or layers of metal, I would definitely have the frame, front cross member, and control arms sand blasted, if you are using them in the build. When you talk to the guy about the job ask him what their hourly rate is and don't let them quote you up front because they will over bill you to cover their ass, tell them to let you know when it's done and you will come pick it up and leave it at that. |
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Well spring is back around and here is what we have completed in three 7hr Fridays :)
I ordered about 400lbs of parts from ECE that will be here tomorrow! -Suspension and rear end removed. -Old brake lines removed -Front crossmember removed and transmission crossmember removed -Front end disassembled -Frame and components getting sand blasted this week! http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psedludjn2.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psmqfxq5qk.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...pscijg0squ.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psyzizunje.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...pshlsw7yvt.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2skxtqxp.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psobhs6ekj.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psd4vhhykh.jpg |
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I haven't made any updates in a few weeks! We have made some good progress lately! Its helping me stay very motivated. Got the frame, front crossmember, trailing arms, lower control arms painted and things are going back together!
Frame after sand blasting... http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...pswqcqafij.jpg Frame after primer... http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psh5mcrs8j.jpg Frame after painting... http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4ic2ynm0.jpg Boy was this a fun experience!! http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psez6d8xir.jpg My dad stitch welding the trailing arms... http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psyvgbwaeu.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...pspgd9cew7.jpg Today we got the front crossmember and spindles in as well as the front sway bar... http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2whgmini.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...pstdfp1fsq.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...pstangmpk6.jpg Tomorrow I will be painting rear axle housing and hopefully plumbing brakes next week! |
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nice work nice truck to start with ill be coming along for the ride
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A little more progress! I got the rear end blasted, primed it and painted it. Removed old bearings and seals and installed new. Waiting on a few parts to finish up the rear drum breaks then I will bolt them on and install new 5 lug axles.
http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psbsfkr0gc.png http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...pstipemmix.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psx7hyjai0.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...pshswozxs6.jpg Meanwhile, my dad sourced some pipe (for free!) and started installing in the crossmember for exhaust routing. http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...pso5bxbjip.jpg Also got the heart! 6.0 LY6 with cam (224/234@.050 .612/638 lift), stronger push rods and springs. Reman 4l80e with 2500 stall. http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...pswtyv9dqh.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psujcsphll.jpg |
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Very cool! I can't wait to follow along with ya!
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Chipping away, slowly but surely. Not as much progress today as I wanted, but hey..its still a good day when you get to work on your ride.
I was hoping to have it on all 4 wheels today, but I wasn't able to get the rear axle in. Hopefully I can find some time this weekend. -Installed front brakes -Trailing arms ready to accept axle housing -5 lug axles installed -Completed rear drum brakes http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...pshhh2j1ov.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psx9u17wkq.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psmmwrnfsa.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4h2ndvuh.jpg |
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hey there jinxy81.. nice progress.. im looking at a truck im buying tomorrow (68 c10 stock) and what you have done to yours is my thought exactly.. might need some help here in the near future.. wanting to do it right of course and not owning a chevy truck before.. i have alot to learn yet.. again.. im definately jealous of all youve done.. and looks awesome bro!
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-6 lug axles -rear disk brakes -new trailing arms After talking to the guys at Early Classic and researching, I decided I would have more wheel options with five lugs. Also the rear drum breaks (rebuilt) would be sufficient for what I am doing with the truck, they just don't look as trick! Stitch welding the trailing arms will help beef them up from all the input from members on this site! I have also discovered that my Early Classic super track bar will not work with the Moser Rear end cover I purchased (based on research). I purchased a CPP bent track bar. Once I get the rear end on I will know for sure. So I may have the Early Classic super track bar as a discounted item for sale! |
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Nice roller!
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Nice project. Great looking truck you are putting together
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ok totally understand the 5 lug swap.. other stuff ill have to look into.. already checked out 6 lug. not too many "cool" options.. so im definately doing the disc and drum first before wheels and tires.. also.. the truck is ours!!.. getting married in 3 weeks then we move when we get back from vegas.. then we go get it!!! going nuts though waiting.. lol.. where are you buying your parts from? hope to post pics once i upload them..
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heres some more pics of my truck..
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Make sure you start a build thread so we can all follow along! |
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Today I officially have a roller! I got the rear axle in, but I have not completely torqued the u bolts down yet. It definitely looks like the drive shaft would not be lined up, but when I measure from the edge of the wheel or a hub to a reference point on the frame its only 1/2" or less difference. So I need to do some research on centering the rear end. This is my first time doing all of this :)
http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psogerdgjq.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4cgm5x8e.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...pssltoagsf.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psosrqxf0u.jpg I also completed all of the steering today including mounting the power steering box. http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psjfbdtfvc.jpg Thanks to MMcMasters for the idea of building a dolly for the cab! I completed this last night. http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psflphmg6c.jpg |
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Man you are killing it...great progress, frame looks super clean
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I'm going to follow along on this one -- not just because the work is awesome, but also bc the stickers on your fridge in post 14 mean you have some other nice "builds" as well. The LT stickers caught my eye ;)
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Awesome looking roller!
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Looks great!
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I have been meaning to update the thread but I have been pretty busy. Dad and I hauled the roller up to my house and put it in my garage so I could work on it more often. I had been driving a half hour on my Fridays off to work on it. Already discovering my dad has more tools than me :)
I have accomplished a few more things: -Put another coat of paint on the frame -Mounted boyd welding tank -Routed brake lines http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...pstme4xkzy.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psrlv5nwtl.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psg1ccxojy.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psgpvgu6wl.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5ani4ddv.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psepcnbxpp.jpg I'm hoping to pick up the engine tomorrow and get it dropped in this week! :metal: |
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Inch by inch, I am getting there! Yesterday I was able to get the engine dropped in. I bolted up the headers to do a test fit and the 1 7/8 Thorley Tri Y's clear very well. Next step is to get the cab up here and begin doing some metal work with the help of a friend who has more experience than I. Once we get that going my plan is to set the cab on the frame to check the engine spacing. Once I know where it needs to be I will probably have to adjust he trans crossmember and then bolt the trans up.
If any of you have advice on that process let me know! http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1nl0lxgs.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7sacnflr.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psvd6agobu.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psd5tsp4fm.jpg One thing I noticed, it seems like my camber went positive after putting engine in? I thought It would have went negative... |
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Nice truck I have a similar build going on.
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Yesterday I was able to get the fuel line plumbing 90% completed. The only part I have left is from the hard line to the engine. I am waiting until I set the cab on and check engine placement before finishing. Big thanks to Travis at AZ Pro Performance, he has been very helpful with any questions I have had!
I also ordered some new Holley LS tall valve covers to clean things up a little bit. I painted them the with Duplicolor DE1607 (chevy orange/red). I also painted the coil packs with some high temp engine paint. http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psid9ow3ek.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...pslmrqruoe.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...pseq6rfg8o.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...pso7sftyo2.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psfh8ujcyz.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psy4jo2g9f.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5fmlwhph.jpg Next week I hope to have the radiator support and get the Entropy radiator installed! http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psjm7z8vm5.jpg |
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Exceptional work, it's looking great! And bonus points for keeping it in the family. The history of these trucks, to me, is just as cool as the progression. Also I laughed at the random haircut picture. Didn't expect that in a build thread...
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I have spent a couple of weeks out of town for work :( But it pays for these fun toys right? I have mocked up the radiator and radiator support. I discovered that the old 4 row mounts fit much better than the ones that came in a kit I received, so I will definitely be re-using them.
http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...pskgxm8aup.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psivgiqg46.jpg I cleaned up the old parking brake system and did a little preliminary routing. http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1lrlveag.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psj8mi0hbj.jpg The metal work on the cab has finally began as well! We are installing extended rockers, kick panels, all pillars, and cab braces. My friend is in-between jobs right now and he is an exceptional welder and fabricator, so I have hired him to help me out. http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psyialrkdr.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1rpyw83t.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psqzda2ugg.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...pslxgdkbsj.jpg The biggest hurdle I am seeing already is finding a good painter/body man where I live. Don't get me wrong, we have some talent who can sling paint, but they only want to do insurance jobs. The guys who do hot rod painting do it on the side and are booked up or are not taking anymore work. If anyone can suggest a good paint shop within 120 miles of zip code 41101 send me a direct message. |
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Very nice looking project! I'm looking forward to following along with the build.
Good luck finding a reputable paint shop. You can read tons of stories on the net about "paint prison". I hope you get a good shop that can get the job done for you. |
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Looking good so far!
Board member theastronaut isn't within 120 miles (Anderson, SC), and I have no idea if he only does paint work, but he's awesome! If not, check out his prep instructions here and do it yourself: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=592011 Also, you can try visiting a few local car shows to see who has killer paint with good recommendations on timeliness. |
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The metal work on the cab is about wrapped up.
-Right and left side floor pan -Right and left side rocker panels -Right and left side kick panels -Right and left side front pillar -Right and left side door lock pillar -Both front and rear cab supports -Right rear cab corner - We discovered that we needed inner and outer lower door skins too :( sooo, thats just how it goes. That work begins on Sunday A few pics of the metal work on the cab. http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...pshyxpntph.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...pshdsyldgn.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2zlhiiwn.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...pshbehroqa.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...pss6pdjwci.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psorgj7aqa.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psnvknwpz9.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8wjxovlm.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...psihzcdjan.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...pseswmgw4y.jpg |
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