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1978 2wd Blazer
So I was looking at a 1978 2wd K5 Blazer about two weeks ago.
The PO bought it as a project, no motor or trans. He had a friend help with a motor swap that's supposed to be a 91 Camaro motor with new HEI, Edelbrock intake and carb. Has headers but no exhaust so I'm probably going swap for Ram Horn manifolds. No provision for a mechanical fuel pump. I'm leaning towards a factory EFI pump in the tank from a later model truck with a fuel pressure regulator in the engine bay. Was an AC truck that had all the engine bay AC parts removed. Supposed to have a rebuilt TH350. Someone covered it in flat black primer. New tires on 15" chrome smoothies. The plan is just clean it up and get it reliable.... Supposed to finalize the purchase on Thursday. I'll update with details and pictures. |
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looking forward to the pics :)
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No joke, post em up when you can...
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Stole this picture off Google Maps
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Google capture again...
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Looks like a cool truck with lots of possibilities.
This is also why I hate google maps. Those are pretty close up pics ;). |
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I should pick up the truck tomorrow. (well later today actually) If the motor is as new as I was told, there is no provision for a mechanical fuel pump. I need a better fuel system to replace the $20 parts store pump on the front frame rail. I am leaning towards a new Spectra Premium 31 gallon EFI tank and factory style in tank pump with an Aeromotive 13301 bypass fuel pressure regulator up on the firewall. I am in hopes that there is a fuel return like going back to the tank to facilitate the bypass regulator.
http://www.rockauto.com/info/22/GM14C_TOP_P04__ra_p.jpg http://www.rockauto.com/info/22/SP12..._P04__ra_p.jpg http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31M7R3SNP8L.jpg |
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A few pics...
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the interior is a little messy...
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needs a good cleaning...
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Need to work on the wiring.... Anyone know what wire feeds power into the fuse panel from the battery?
Also, anyone know what years a can get a donor AC box for the firewall? 73-91? 77-80? Only 1978? |
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Any airbox from 73-up will bolt up. I am sure there are a few differences, but they will all work. Looks like a good start.
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I can't shake the feeling that truck has been posted here before. Congrats. Is that an old round-eye Benz following the truck?
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Got the tank the other day and snapped a few pics. You can see the internal baffle for the fuel pump... The pump showed up before work but forgot to get a picture.
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Does anyone know if they make adapters to fit the connections on the fuel pump? This is from an 88 K5 and I would like to come up with something that uses the factory connection at the pump/tank and that I can rig up to the hard line. Need both the feed and return line. I don't want to run braided line. Either EFI rated rubber hose or the modern nylon type.
RockAuto sells another male connector for the feed line but I need the female end.... Fitting Attachment End 1 Male O-ring - M16-1.5 Fitting Attachment End 2 None Fitting Size End 1 16 mm Fitting Size End 2 3/8 In. Fuel Line Connector Design Male O-Ring Gasket Material Viton Material Steel Package Contents Steel Fuel Line Repair Kit - 3/8 In. X 18 In. W/16mm Fitting |
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And finally the other end that will mate the Nylon line to the factory steel fuel and return... Dorman part number 800-135 -- 3 pack of 3/8, 5/16 and 1/4 |
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Out with the old .. in with the new... well I didn't install the new tank yet. I'm going to see about getting it covered in Line-X. Black it out so you don't see it as much, added layer or protection and sound insulation.
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Nice! I'll be following along. I want a 2wd blazer so bad!
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Good info! Clean 'ol Blazer!
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SO they wanted $240 bucks to Line-X the thing....forget that... I talked to my powder coater. Was going to do a gloss black textured coating, but with the neck soldered in, they couldn't guarantee that it wouldn't be an issue when curing the powder coat in the oven... I'll either POR-15 the tank or just install as is...
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I could use some advice on a few electrical items.
1. The motor is out of a 91 Camaro and it has an electric oil pressure sensor next to the HEI. I believe the 78 was mechanical oil pressure. What are my options? (see question 2 first) 2. I am using an in tank electric fuel pump. Without an ECM to prime the pump, how do I set up a relay to the pump. I would like to incorporate the oil pressure sensor to control the fuel pump relay? Do I need two relays? One to prime and one to run? Anyone recognize one of these part numbers for the oil pressure switch to operate the fuel pump relay? OEM Part Number(s): 12353898, 1S6812, 2011345, 25036845, 25036938, 6000092, PS215 |
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Cool blazer. I think you are just needing one relay that stays hot with the ignition on. The tbi oil pressure switches duplicate the current coming from the relay in case of a relay failure the pump keeps going. I've never run an electric pump with a carb but assume it would work the same with a return style fuel pressure regulator.
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You can get a Painless harness for the fuel pump. it uses the oil pressure switch to control the relay. you need ignition voltage in the switch to the control side of the relay. the power side of the relay goes to the battery to the pump. if you want a prime you would need to add a push button from battery to the power side of the relay. I ran a holley blue pump for years and never had a prime. the only time I had an issue with it is from sitting all winter long. all I did was crank the enginr till it got oil pressure and then the pump would fill the carb. after that it was good to go. you still need to run a regulator in the system to knock the fuel pressure down to about 5 pounds.
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I have some Bosch relays so I'll just build a harness off keyed power. I was trying to over engineer it where it primes for 5 seconds and stops powering the pump till its running. Doesn't need it, but thought it would be cool.
I did find this.... http://www.revolutionelectronics.com/Fuel_Pump.html I have the Aeromotive bypass regulator that I'm going to mount on the firewall. I have a 0-15 psi liquid filled gauge that will be mounted on the front of it. I'm upgrading fuel lines to late model GM style nylon line with a quick connect frame mounted fuel filter. http://images.oreillyauto.com/parts/.../mgd/33193.jpg http://images.oreillyauto.com/parts/...00-082-001.jpg |
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Anyone know where to get a painted bumper?
Will one from an 81 Chevy van work? |
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Cool,another one saved and getting up grades.
My 79 had a non - safe powered pump right up front (key on) to prime. problem was a line leak. back to stock now,my 78K doesn't have the stock pump return, 79CK does. I've used a flaring kit to create a bump in the end of the steel line to help hold the rubber FI hose/camp. |
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Covered the tank in bed liner. Fitted the fuel pump. Had to massage the 5/16 fitting on the return line. Waiting for crimp clamps for the nylon fuel lines. Need a few clamps for the filler neck connections an a piece of 1 3/8 hose. Hope to get all that squareday away this afternoon. ..
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That looks great. Did you end up getting it done or is that a DIY product?
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Its a DIY product, but I cheated and had someone else do it. I just didn't want to mess with it.
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Ran the fuel lines from the pump to an inline fuel filter with GM quick connect fittings... then up to the bypass regulator...
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Installed a Lokar throttle cable bracket and a cheap Auto-Loc throttle cable. The new aluminum manifold won't allow the TH350 kickdown cable bracket to be mounted on the last two hole without filing down a piece of the manifold. I'll take some pics of that later...
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my Edelbrock Performer RPM manifold is the same way but the install directions say to cut a section of the bracket out. so thats what i did
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I set up three relays, one will be for the fuel pump. I was going to run the other two for the headlights, but it would be better if they were on the other fender. There is also a 175 amp main fuse block. The feed wire is overkill for what I need. No computer controlled engine or big stereo, besides it's not long enough to reach the fuse block. I'll probably downsize...
Oh, and don't mind the missing AC box... I can only assume that they cracked it during the engine swap and just ripped it out.. |
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Awesome find! One day I want to do a slammed K5. Keep up the good work, and I dig your older K5 too!
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So I picked up a Chevy Lumina EURO steering wheel from the junk yard because its GM, its Blue and it was an upgrade from the original worn out wheel.... I didn't know it would be that far off in color.... I also picked up a Lecarra wheel from fleabay... Not sure what will be the final wheel...
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Although I just got a replacement starter from the local parts store, I my go and try and try and exchange it for a OE gear reduction mini starter....
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Looks good. If that lumina wheel were a couple shades closer it would have my vote.
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The smaller starter needs shorter bolts. After some research I came up with GM part number 12338064 which is 3/8-16 at 4.33 in length.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/a...e-jpg.2683895/ If they work with the new mini starter, I want to get some Ram Horn manifolds to replace the cheap trashed headers that were on there when I bought the Blazer... Two styles that I was looking at... http://static.speedwaymotors.com/RS/...L_15c0496b.jpg http://static.speedwaymotors.com/RS/...L_1b0532fd.jpg |
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Here is a quick comparison shot of the bolts next to the new starter. I managed to get the blazer running. I need to go through the cooling system and add an exhaust. I may just run the cheap headers for now. The original radiator looks rough so I may go with a Champion radiator. I picked up a trans cooler from the junk yard too so I need to figure out how to plumb that in as well....
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