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rtinniste 12-22-2015 10:36 AM

Wtf did i get myself into 51 s10 swap
 
Hey guys I've been lurking around the site for about a month or 2 now and finally feel like I have enough progress to start a build thread.

rtinniste 12-22-2015 10:59 AM

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So I picked the truck up around November off a family friend 1951 Chevy 3100 1/2 ton. Was told the truck was all stock minus the funky interior, 12 volt conversion, and that it ran and drove 8 years ago before he parked it.

Checked everything out looked in good shape so i snagged it for 3 grand.
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/o...psguorkkay.jpghttp://i376.photobucket.com/albums/o...psiaonvqwd.jpghttp://i376.photobucket.com/albums/o...psdedulboy.jpghttp://i376.photobucket.com/albums/o...psnwxffk1v.jpg
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/o...pslyyzz5ey.jpg http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/o...ps9pdatr03.jpg

I was planning on building the truck in phases while keeping it drivable between phases. Original plan was mustang II, 4 link rear, bags then eventually v8 swap.
But first on the list was getting the straight 6 running and driving again and service the brakes.
So ran to napa to get new oil filter and fluids they had 2 oil filters listed so i just grabbed both. $100 bucks later I'm back at the house pull the oil filter and neither are the right filter and that's when i realize its not the original motor. My dad is pretty sure its a 235 and I'm clueless to the motor size. So I figured might as well just change the oil and see if i can even get it to turn over. And that's where things started to snowball.....

rtinniste 12-22-2015 11:42 AM

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I threw a battery in the truck turn the key and hit the floor starter, the starter spins but doesn't engage. Couple hits with the hammer fixed that try again motor spins but won't turn over. I remember the previous owner telling me something about the ignition switch is messed up.
So ill just by pass the switch and jump the coil that's when i noticed the burning smell under the dash so i disconnect the battery. And find a whole bunch of sketchy stuff...
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/o...psoqdofvkc.jpg
There were about a half dozen wires like this running thru the firewall no grommets wires snaked thru the front support that doubled back that were pinched between the fender and splash shields. I have never seen such a tweaker wire job in my life and I've seen some sketchy stuff on air ride and stereo installs I've had to trouble shoot before.

But after removing all the fire hazard wiring i got the truck to turn over and idle for a couple seconds (i just poured some gas in the carb)
Now to remove the electric pusher fan they had on the truck along with the mechanical fan. Well just removing the electric fan i must of bumped something because it started leaking coolant and that's where i noticed all the jb weld used to patch the radiator. Great one more thing i have to buy now...

That's when i started doing research on front suspension for this hoopty. I was looking at mustang II and being from the offroad world nothing about the mustang II seemed right the lower tubular arms looked sketchy and i would end up adding more bracing in the cross member double sheer the lower pivot points etc. I just couldn't justify spending 2k on front suspension that would need to be modified more. That's where i came across this website and how much info there was on s10 swaps I knew it was a option but this forum is what really pushed me in this direction.

So now with the game plan changed i was on the search for parts took a week of non stop searching and calling people for a s10 long bed frame everyone was asking top dollar close to $1000 for frame. Then i came across a 92 s10 single cab long bed with a 350 swap running and driving for 2k was pretty close to buying that, when i found a frame for $300 about a 2 hours from my house. Loaded up the jeep and made my way down there.
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/o...psn7jolj5b.jpg

didn't even have to load it the guy did it for me and i didnt have to worry about stripping a truck at my already crowded house :ito:

then 2 days later traded my klx110 for a 350/th350 combo
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/o...psplvxkxpf.png

Then went and picked up the other bed the guy i bought the truck from had in his barn. Bed is in great shape just surface rust so ill have that blasted and primered soon
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/o...psruqxyyes.jpg

rtinniste 12-22-2015 12:01 PM

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Now i started ordering all the parts to get this frame layed out. Most of everything is already installed the 4 link should be here by Thursday right in time for shut down at work.

speedway tubular uppers
new moog lowers
mcgraughys 2 inch drop spindles
new rotors bearings etc
thorbros 4 link
4x4 blazer 7.5" axle 3:73 gears and a posi (my search for the 8.5" turned up empty)

still waiting on ordering calipers cant decide if i want wilwood's or just oems for the front

Chopped of the s10 mounts went alot easier then what everyone made it out to be
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/o...psgzgt7wle.jpg

Now we are up to date Friday I pulled the front clip every bolt broke off so that went fast. the front core support was a huge pain the bolts were rusted frozen, but they were loose so i couldn't drill them out, couldn't cut them with my grinder because they are sunk into the support. Tried a sawzall didn't work ended up using a vise grip underneath and drilled them out. Then Saturday i wanted to tackle the cab went pretty smooth except me being lazy i left the doors and hood and majority of the interior and used 4 eye bolts thru the mount holes and some chain. Ended up chopping the shifter off and cutting the steering column because it started raining on me and i just wanted to get it done and get everything back in the garage.
But got the cab off and set on my s10 frame by myself so i feel accomplished. didn't get much pictures just these.

front clip resting on it
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/o...psmq6he6xq.jpg

Figured might as well pull the front clip apart it wasnt aligned good to begin with and got my fenders bolted up. I'll chop the front frame rails either today or tomorrow and try to start the body mounts also i have all the material i just need to either have my garage wired for 220 or go to my brother in laws.
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/o...psw9idbs7n.jpg

oldman3 12-22-2015 12:22 PM

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I'll hang around for the build, doing good so far...Jim

TimE 12-22-2015 01:11 PM

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Looks like a really great start. Keep it up!

chincha805 12-22-2015 01:24 PM

Re: Wtf did i get myself into 51 s10 swap
 
what did you do to get the front end wider? are the Speedway &
Moog control arms, wider than stock S10?

rtinniste 12-22-2015 02:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by oldman3 (Post 7419169)
I'll hang around for the build, doing good so far...Jim

Thank you, i know you saw my introduction thread!

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimE (Post 7419227)
Looks like a really great start. Keep it up!

Thank you i finally getting some free time to get back on it again

Quote:

Originally Posted by chincha805 (Post 7419246)
what did you do to get the front end wider? are the Speedway &
Moog control arms, wider than stock S10?

the moog arms are just stock s10 arms the speedway uppers i went with the 8.5" instead of the 8" figured it would be better to have the extra positive camber adjustment.
But i also don't have the front support in so the fenders could be pinched in slightly and the cab might not be perfectly squared up i just have it resting on 4" blocks for now. Everything looked pretty close tho.

But it looks like i can get away with no spacers with 15x8 reverse pattern supremes like i was planning.

Chance48 12-22-2015 03:34 PM

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Looks like another nice old bolt being brought back to a more glorious life. Lookin good sir.

Advanced Design 12-22-2015 09:15 PM

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Great start. I am tagging along.

Iceburgh 12-24-2015 12:34 AM

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I am digging the interior

84blaze 12-25-2015 04:38 AM

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Right on. Looking forward to this one

rtinniste 12-26-2015 09:59 AM

Re: Wtf did i get myself into 51 s10 swap
 
Small update my thor bros 4 link showed up on the 24th and i got about 50% of it installed that day. Spent close to 3 hours on removing rivets alone drilling them was actually alot easier then trying to cut them out :ito:
Still have to relocate the lower leaf perch 8" back for the lower links. So just the uppers installed for now I wanted to glassbead the perches before i install them so I'll do that on break at work today. And should have them installed today.

And the kit came with stover nuts for everything so i didn't put them on since I plan on having my link bars copper or nickle plated. But everything will have stover nuts, torqued to spec, and torque sealed on final assembly.

So with the cab 4 inches off my frame i shouldn't need a notch or have to de-hump lower control arms and lay my running board about 3/4" from the ground. Cant get over how my 1/2 of a truck looks laid out haha
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/o...psz2xxgw6u.jpg

OSHA approved work boots. Rear bag mounts, sway bar mounts, shock mounts I think I have them figured out just need my garage wired for 220 to start welding everything. :waah:
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/o...psbspk9ogo.jpg

And this happened last week to my money pit :banghead: Riding to low thru a local meet and when i went to park i cut the wheel to hard, tire grabbed the fender and folded my fender in. Total amateur hour :tim: worst part of it all i had to pull the fender out by hand because it was resting on top of my tire. I've never seen my girl cringe so bad she was honestly more bummed out about it then i was but then again shes the one that won't let me sell the car and she actually gets excited to go to meets, guess I'll keep her around.

And I just had the car painted about 4 months ago with glasurit base and 8 coats of glasurit clear and I added a bunch of metal flake, so i cant pull a fender from another car and just slap it on. Luckily i ordered extra paint so that needs to get fixed asap my rim lip taps it constantly now and every other day i have to shove a news paper in there to pull it back out. And i tapped the curb the week prior and have yet to fix that, thank the lord for polished aluminum. I've been driving this car way to much lately
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/o...pslz6dokub.jpg

But I did take it to Vazquez rocks without zero issues drove down a mile long dirt road to haha some of you may recognize the rocks in the background. Flinestones, star trek, etc all had scenes filmed there
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/o...psfxzmllft.jpg
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/o...psbzclbqxb.jpg
http://www.elevenshadows.com/travels...ornfaceoff.jpg

Cuttin up 12-26-2015 11:57 AM

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That the same 4 link thats in mine. Its a nice setup, the worst part is all the damn rivets to grind off. haha. Your truck is looking good, looking forward to see it come along.

Bishops Trucks 12-26-2015 12:26 PM

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I'll keep an eye on this progress. Nice looking project.

rtinniste 12-26-2015 12:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cuttin up (Post 7423410)
That the same 4 link thats in mine. Its a nice setup, the worst part is all the damn rivets to grind off. haha. Your truck is looking good, looking forward to see it come along.

I agree the kit is real nice everything lines up perfect no issues gotta love how easy these s10 frame are everything is like legos.
And if that ain't the damn truth about the rivets the drill helped alot even tho i killed 4 cobalt stub drills and a half bottle of cutting oil.

Any updates on yours? I'm excited to see a body on it your frame is lowwwww

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bishops Trucks (Post 7423439)
I'll keep an eye on this progress. Nice looking project.

Thank you

Cuttin up 12-26-2015 03:33 PM

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I'm equally as exited to see the body on mine, just have to find the time to do so. I need to put a patch panel in the pass side kick panel area before I take the cab off. I need to get a weekend where the wife won't complain. haha.

WorkinWrenchs 12-27-2015 02:38 AM

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Great start already

big_moss 12-28-2015 12:41 PM

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great start man ill for sure follow your progress. good luck

GreasyLikeaBurger 12-28-2015 10:59 PM

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Subscribed also. What are you planning to do with the old rolling chassis? I maybe interested if you decided to get rid of it. I am just down the road in OC, but my 3100 is still torn apart at my parents house up in LA.

rtinniste 12-29-2015 10:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GreasyLikeaBurger (Post 7426469)
Subscribed also. What are you planning to do with the old rolling chassis? I maybe interested if you decided to get rid of it. I am just down the road in OC, but my 3100 is still torn apart at my parents house up in LA.

To be honest I'm not sure yet. Either haul it out to Havasu and store it because I really feel like 10 years from now you wont be able to find any of these frames, find a cab on the cheap and build a second truck to flip with my brother in law since he has all the sheet metal laying on his side yard, or sell the frame straight out as a roller with the motor, trans, and torque tube.

But I'm not even sure what they are really worth. I'll let you know I need to make up my mind its just sitting on the driveway with the motor bagged up and the bed is starting to become a dumpster for s10 parts haha

GreasyLikeaBurger 12-29-2015 10:10 PM

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Cool. I would take it as a roller with the full drivetrain installed. I modded my '52 frame a longtime ago, and am thinking about going back to stock with it. Also, as you said, I was thinking about finding a 3 window cab and put my modded chassis under that.

rtinniste 01-18-2016 12:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GreasyLikeaBurger (Post 7427605)
Cool. I would take it as a roller with the full drivetrain installed. I modded my '52 frame a longtime ago, and am thinking about going back to stock with it. Also, as you said, I was thinking about finding a 3 window cab and put my modded chassis under that.

i sent you a pm

rtinniste 01-18-2016 01:54 PM

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Small update if you can even call it that i guess

Chopped the front frame rails about a 1/2" after the steering box and bolted the grille up.
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/o...pselb2zzo3.jpg

Also picked this up Friday was going to go with a Lincoln 180hd figured I'd spend a little more and get something I won't out grow. And I'm in love that's all i have to say my wallet says otherwise. I wish I picked one up in December when they had their $200 off deal but I got a killer deal on cyberweld and they have 6 months no interest with paypal cant beat that.
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/o...psnwytoxu4.jpg


Finish welded the cab mounts and smoothed them out came out nice got the front mounts tacked in passenger side mount tacked in. And have cut the rear drivers mount off twice now.

First time measured the passenger side between front and rear mount then rear mount to factory s10 bed mount I left. All within 1/16th of a inch so i clamped the mount tack it in, measured everything was good.

Lower the body down go to drop a bolt thru the mount is 1/2" to far back to align with the cab hole even tho everything is dead on between mounts so chopped the mount off.
Then bolt the mount to the cab drop body down leveled the cab and centered the cab tack it in measured now I'm a 1/2" off between mounts even tho all 4 bolts drop in smoothly and everything looks straight. Didn't like that so off with the mount again.

There's a couple things i can think of that's causing it.

1. s10 upper bushing cup is really rusty and it might not be centering since the holes in the poly bushings are oval slots

2. either my cab or frame is twisted some what

3. I'm more buzzed then I think I am when I'm measuring :b69:

4. I need to quit being lazy and actually pull the cab instead of putting it on jack stands when I'm putting mounts on so i can cross check measurements

5. my hole saw might of shifted when i was cutting the bushing holes

I have some things to check when I get home I really think its between the hole saw shifted, the bushing cup throwing it off, and me being stupid thinking I can do this with the cab being on the frame still trying to rush things.


Hopefully that all makes sense

lower50's 01-18-2016 02:33 PM

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Your truck is looking great so far. I like the stance!!

rtinniste 01-25-2016 11:42 AM

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Little update spent all day Saturday installing air ride on a 350z ended up missing the nutserts for the rear bags so finished everything minus the rear. All I can say is that car blows to take apart way more interior plastic panels then my Infiniti, and it took longer to put back together then it did for me to line and wire the system. And my hands are covered in cuts from the stupid panels just have to put the nutsert and rear bags in, calibrate the system, set the presets and its finished.

But did get to work on the truck Sunday afternoon, wasn't even planning it until my brother in law sent me a pic of his nova clip installed on his Apache. Crap need to get back in the lead!

Made a lower U frame for the radiator support the side stands bolt to it and its all 3/16" angle iron and plate. Ended up making two risers off the frame with some scrap C channel. Thing that sucks is the passenger side frame rail slopes down right where I needed my pad to land so i couldn't make each side equal height.
I spent close to a week thinking the best way to do this. From using a weld in bung on the frame but if that ever strips I'm screwed, to the route everyone seems to take with the lower bar but i think i cut my frame horns to far back slightly, this route just seemed the best way to me.

Happy I just did it and got it done. Now time to mount the bed and running boards, bed should go quick running boards I'm not looking forward to. But at least I'm done cutting plate steel with the wheel of death I'm pretty sure.

But the way I made it, it has tons of adjustment.
I can pinch my fenders in by putting washers between the side stands and u frame. I have about a 1 inch side to side movement and height adjustment i can drop it 1/2" by flipping the bushings or raise as much as I need using fender washers under the bushing cup as shims. Everything is square, level, and lines up perfect. And you can't see the mounts once the grille is on and the hood lines up and latches and unlatches nicely even with the front clip being loose. So I must of done something right.

http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/o...psdttrkfwl.jpg

Today I need to pick up some shorter grade 8 bolts cut the driver side tab and straighten it some and add a gusset to each tab doubt its needed I can stand and jump on each tab with no deflection but it will make it look better. I think I went slight over kill on it. I'll post a better pic tomorrow with it completed that pic makes it look like a complete hack job with the 7" bolts and crooked tab.

rtinniste 02-11-2016 10:34 AM

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Little update no pictures tho since my phone cord seemed to walk off my desk here at the shop so I'll do a photo dump tomorrow for anyone that cares.

But I ended up cutting off the drivers side core support tab straightening it and adding gussets in. Made my running board mounts made them bolt on instead of welding them to the frame. Got the bed mounted that was a headache I had to cut the bed more to clear the 4wd calipers and the bed is about 3/4" higher then were it should be but i ended up dropping the front of my fender down and tweak my splash apron slightly but it all works out.

Rolled my rear fender lips to clear my wheels 15x8 2 inch backspace supremes with 205/75/15 has credit card clearance when you use the 4wd blazer rear end. They fit the fronts and comes within MM of the fender brace, but I'm going to order the 15x8 3.625 backspace for the front and run a 205/70/15 and a 1" spacer should work out perfect. The 2" back space looked awkward with that deep of a lip on the front only downsize is I can't rotate tires now.

Waiting on parts to show up now Little shop mfg no toe steering kit since they have $150 off right now, new splash aprons since the jackass who worked on the truck before me thought welding them to the bed was smart.

And i need to order a new bed front panel mine has a really bad bend in it, whats funny is that it matches the radius of the cab perfect just backwards like this )(. And order my front wheels they are in stock at summit just tired of spending money to give myself headaches haha

Clay54 02-11-2016 01:33 PM

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Well rtinniste, I care. Anxious to see the picture of how this rad support ended up. It is another idea that no one I know of has built before. Thanks for sharing. Clay

lower50's 02-11-2016 03:07 PM

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I like pics.

rtinniste 02-18-2016 02:30 PM

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Sorry for the lack of updates nothing really ground breaking on the truck kinda slowed down some on it. Thought i took more pictures but here's what I have.

I ordered 2 15x8 reverse offset supremes so I can test fit originally i wanted to run the same size all around but something about the lip size looks off on the front and with a 205/75/15 it barely clears the front fender brace when the truck is laid out.
So they offer the same wheel with a 3-5/8" backspacing instead of the 2" back spacing. So I plan on running that up front with a 1" spacer and a 205/70/15.

This is with the 15x8 2" backspace
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/o...psrxd7phbh.jpghttp://i376.photobucket.com/albums/o...psmargifjx.jpg


Got my running board mount done just have to drill holes to bolt the running board down. They bolt to my frame using 7/16 grade 8 bolts with nylocks and the base plate is 1/4" plate.
**pic is before i added the triangulated gusset's**
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/o...psmyrbrx5a.jpg

I really should spend some time building a welding table using 2 trash cans is getting old trying to balance crap then weld it haha.
Honest opinions on my welds? I've been teaching myself over the past couple weeks and staying away from the millers autoset feature, I always try learning using manual settings on everything before touching any auto features because you end up relying on auto features.
The only welding experience I had was off a junk harbor freight flux core 110 unit I used to make wrought iron doors for my bbq island and what I read online or on youtube. Still want to take a couple classes at the college for mig welding and tig. But my weld profiles seem decent I'm getting good color on the backside with no burn thru.
I really need to force myself to slow down I've noticed and I need to work on hand motion keeping my beads straighter I've been running my visor on the lower end of its settings or I might just need better lighting in the garage.
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/o...pscz4idrkn.jpg


Got the bed mounted but ended up about a 3/4" higher then it should of been grrrr but it was easily fixable by enlarging a couple of the holes and tweaking the splash aprons slightly. I hate it but it works and its not noticeable knowing me I'll probably redo it.
No pics of that process. **fender wasn't bolt on**
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/o...psiytif9jj.jpg

But my little shop mfg no toe steering kit came in wasnt planning that just yet but they gave me $150 off because it was some over stock from their last group by so i jumped on it. Rear wheels fit perfect with the 205/75/15 had to flatten the fender lip slightly, it cleared before but was credit card clearance and if there is any side to side play with the 4 link it will hit so now I have almost a finger space there. Also took the brace out of the rear fenders I saved them but i doubt it will need it.
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/o...psant8tr07.jpg


And that's where I am now as of yesterday. Prob wont have a update for a week or two the Infiniti is going to be back under the knife soon.
It needs brake pads and my rotors look like crap from rust on the rotor hats. So might as well upgrade for this season.
So I've been collecting parts that I need to swap over the akebono sport brakes from the 2010 g37s for a factory big brake kit.
Front brakes go from 2 piston 12.5" rotor to a 4 piston 14" rotor setup
Rear goes from single piston 12" rotor to dual piston 13.8" rotor setup
Still need my stupid fender fixed and repainted and planning on changing to a full titanium exhaust setup and still debating new wheels since I'm bored of my current wheels and I can squeeze something a little more aggressive in there still.
some pics of that POS if anyone cares
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/o...psjsyoiicg.jpg
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/o...psbw86qydc.jpg

And Clay I'll get some pics of the rad support when I pull the front clip when I start mocking the motor up.

Clay54 02-18-2016 09:03 PM

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Thanks for remembering. Appreciate that. Clay

Advanced Design 02-18-2016 09:19 PM

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The wheel selection on your truck looks good. You have some nice looking welds going on there too.

Jaik 02-18-2016 10:32 PM

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Awesome stuff. Love the truck and Love the car. I was looking at one before I found my truck.
Can't wait to see bags all finished.

joedoh 02-18-2016 11:19 PM

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welds look sharp! might turn the wire up a hair, its hard to tell in the picture if there is any undercut, but looks like you got the motion down. penetration looks good too from the heat marks.

truck looks great, bet you excited to get it on the road.

lower50's 02-19-2016 12:19 AM

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Wheels look good and welds look good, just takes practice. I agree with Joedoh bit more wire or slow down a little.

rtinniste 02-24-2016 05:37 PM

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So my front wheels should be here today. And I have this itch to pull the front clip and start mocking up my motor and trans I need to go pick up s10 2.8 motor mounts to see if my jagsthatrun motor mounts work out. And I need to clean out the cab seems to be storage locker and I think half my tools are in it since my tool box seems kinda bare.
Fingers crossed that I actually do something to this truck besides stare at it today.

rtinniste 03-22-2016 10:26 AM

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Been slacking on the updates been almost a month! Here's a recap been a crappy month kind of

The weather has been amazing the desert is full time spring mode right now. So seems lately my weekends I've been out of the garage wheeling which is a nice change. Except i work on the truck about 4 hours a night.

http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/o...ps0psxaahf.jpg
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/o...psdw1ldr4i.jpg
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/o...psowonvgg5.jpg

Scored a sand blaster and flame proof cabinet...... Except the dodge decided it wanted to DNF on the 5 freeway bringing it home. Pretty sure it collapsed a lash adjuster and spit out a rocker arm. So I'm still unsure on what I'm going to do my garage is at maximum capacity right now so its been sitting.

Mopar mo problems leaves you with no car. :waah:
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/o...pswjywawrq.jpg

rtinniste 03-22-2016 10:50 AM

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Now on to better stuff I decided to mock the motor up. Had to trim the fire wall to gain some trans clearance. (i have no pics of any of this so use your imagination)
That's when i started finding more fiberglass in this cab noticed the floor pan and fire wall were starting to split minus needing both cowls rearcab corners.
So I started looking around craigslist, military auctions, yacht trader, the Russian black market.

Well ended up finding a cab on craigslist says in decent shape no bondo minor rust located in Ventura county about a hour from me for $650. So we hopped in the car on a Saturday hauled ass down there checked the cab out. It was clean two rot spots the size of a nickle in the rear lowers and a dent on the roof. Ended up scoring the cab for $450 bucks.

Cruised down on Monday and picked it up. Took forever to get home tons of rain and in the canyons its started to hail then snow. Got the cab washed for free since we are in a drought and everything.
Made it to the local watering hole for celebration cervezas. :ito:
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Told you my garage is packed
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Since the weather has been nice and my truck is dead I've been using my hog for a parts store runner lol. Forgot how wrong this bike feels riding around on the streets and it takes me way longer to get home since i always find myself taking the scenic route :lol:
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rtinniste 03-22-2016 11:23 AM

Re: Wtf did i get myself into 51 s10 swap
 
So now i have my motor set in place pulled the crap cab off. I had to figure out the trans cross member situation. I'll be completely honest this drove me insane 2 weeks of staring at my frame asking myself why and thinking about my life choices haha.
I didn't want to hack the stock s10 cross member, didn't care for any pre fab universal ones, the driver side frame rail step drove me crazy.

So i decided I'll just tackle it myself and wing it and I'm glad i did i love the way it came out everything is flush with the bottom of the frame.
I had about 4ft left of 1x4 .120 or .150 (cant remember off the top of my head but its some heavy stuff) wall box steel left from my running board mounts. Cut it to width then started trying to figure out mounting tabs. I didn't have much 1/4 plate left laying around but i did have a pair of stock shackles from my dodge. And go figure the leaf springs are 4" wide so quick hack with the chop saw i had my mounts.
I'll let the pics speak for themselves **not grade 8 bolts, ill be replacing everything with grade 8 shanked and cut to length bolts on final assembly**
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was thinking about making it a k member to stiffen the frame up
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overlapped the welds in the corner looks ugly
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tail shaft sits right at 4.5 degrees down, but i need to go up to the higher hole on my motor mounts (starter motor is to close to the frame and might tap the frame with engine twist) and add a spacer on the trans to get it back to 4.5 degrees.


And this is how she sits now waiting on headers and center knock offs to arrive. Used some satin frame paint to spray bomb the frame so hopefully that works and the cab might get dropped on today. I'm still debating on media blasting the cab since every panel on my truck is a different color and I doubt I'll be able to match the patina haha. Oh and I'm going to have to c notch and dehump control arms I'm about 2 inches from laying running boards on the new tires.
Also the drive shaft isn't bolted to the diff it clears the brace by about 1.5" when the truck is all the way up.
The length is also pretty much dead on i think it came out of a late 60s early 70s c10 long bed, I got it with my motor and trans.

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rtinniste 03-24-2016 12:33 PM

Re: Wtf did i get myself into 51 s10 swap
 
Made some more progress yesterday if you can even call it that, feel like I've been taking 2 steps forward 1 step back lately and making zero progress.

But the motor is bolted in, trans bolted in, mounted headers, painted the frame under the cab, and got the rot free cab on hopefully this is the last time.
Modded the stock column drop to raise the steering wheel up an inch or two and pushed about 3 inches closer to the dash so from the looks of it ill be able to keep the stock seat stock column stock steering wheel and still be comfortable.

The motor mounts from jags that run and patriot clippster h8036 headers work perfect. Valve covers are about 2 inches from the fire wall plenty of room for the dizzy hopefully there's enough room up front for an electric fan seems like it when the front clip is on.
Only issue I see is my brake lines that will go to the booster that will take some tweaking to work.

Still have alot left I want to have it running by may but i doubt it will be. Still unsure about what to do about the truck being 6 different colors i was quoted 600 to media blast the cab bed and tail gate but that's out of budget as of right now




Running boards are 2" off the ground and drive me insane so guess time for a bolt in c notch and dehump the control arms.
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and at the end of the night i had the front clip mocked back up dont mind the 1975 dumpster i mean c10 :lol:
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