350 crate engine intake and carb possible for $3,000?
 

I gave my daughter my 69 C10 a year of so back and she wants to put a new engine in it. It's the truck in my profile pic. The engine in it now is the original 307 with a tiny little Rochester 2 barrel that's worn out. The engine runs but it's very tired. She wants more power and reliability.
She's looking for a 350, intake and four barrel carb. The truck has a granny 4 speed, it's lowered 4/3". Has anyone seen a deal on a 350 crate with intake and carb for around $2500/$3000? We will be using the original ram horn exhaust manifolds and adding a dual exhaust to replace the stock single.
Thanks for any suggestions!

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How about this? http://paceperformance.com/i-5146388...te-engine.html

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You'd have to add an intake and carb, but that's easy. This engine seems to be the hot ticket of late:

https://smile.amazon.com/Genuine-GM-...0+crate+engine

Add an Edelbrock 7201 (Amazon suggests it at checkout) and a good carb and you're done.

I might be tempted to find the 250hp version of this rather than the 290 - probably more torque would be better than more HP in our trucks.

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If you plan on using all but the intake and carb from the 307, get the 195hp GM crate for $1600. Around $200 for a performer intake with gaskets and intake bolts. $340 or so for a 1406 Edelbrock. This makes a really nice setup for around $2150. I've personally had this setup in a couple different vehicles over the years, and currently in my CJ7. To me, this engine has plenty of power for normal driving. But that's just my.02

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g.m. vortec 350 crate 2060. jegs
intake 230 jegs
one piece rear seal flexplate 60.00 local parts store.
carb 250.00
small electric fuel pump 100.00 tops..
30.00 for the melonized distributor gear to put on your distributor
new water pump 40.00

225 hp roller cammed 350 that doesn't need special oil.. doesn't need the 20 minute hail mary break in.., and doesn't leak oil .
Better heads, and better power under the curve (under the power peak)
better fuel economy.. than the basic 350. with flat tappet cam and 76 cc heads and 8.0 compression (listed as 8.4 but real world comes in at closer to 8.0) vortec is 9.4

Re: 350 crate engine intake and carb possible for $3,000?
 

Summit intake
http://www.ebay.com/itm/391474215998

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Nice.. that wasn't avail when I bought mine..
143.00
iirc mine was just 300-350 bones for the edelbrook performer with both bolt patterns.. for the holley and q-jet..

Thanks all, I'll go over these with my daughter. Looks like some good options.
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Re: 350 crate engine intake and carb possible for $3,000?
 

This is exactly what i'm doing for our 1969 GMC-

Crate Vortec 350- fitech FI

and for my 1978 c10-

Vortec 350, cam from 1995 f-body- carb or TPI

Re: 350 crate engine intake and carb possible for $3,000?
 

I'm thinking of buying a new engine also. Will the factory exhaust manifolds work with the vortec engine?

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I would do this
http://www.jegs.com/i/Chevrolet-Perf...30283/10002/-1
plus , intake manifold , 600 edelbrock carb , and you will need to get an electric fuel pump , much better engine that the "henchos"

Re: 350 crate engine intake and carb possible for $3,000?
 

Surprisingly, cheaper on Amazon. I'm sure it's fulfilled by a GM dealer anyway, but it's free shipping too. Same part number:

https://smile.amazon.com/GM-Parts-12...words=12530283

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Check Karl performance. They have complete kits, nice rebates. I got complete 290 hp crate fuel pump starter, intake, carb. 3200 no core. You do have to assemble from intake on. Love mine!

Re: 350 crate engine intake and carb possible for $3,000?
 

jegs and summit has new grate 350's for $1499.

Re: 350 crate engine intake and carb possible for $3,000?
 

I wonder if they add the 100 core charge at check out..
That is why I got mine a jegs.. they didn't , summit did..
My local dealer was 600 more..

Re: 350 crate engine intake and carb possible for $3,000?
 

Nope, there doesn't seem to be a core charge or anything on Amazon. I added it to my cart and went all the way to the last step and the total is still $1,999.99

- Dave

Re: 350 crate engine intake and carb possible for $3,000?
 

Not bad..
mine was 1919.87 at jegs.. but that was in late 2015..

the part# ending in a 3 = 4 bolt mains..
ending in a 2 is 2 bolt.

Re: 350 crate engine intake and carb possible for $3,000?
 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Pe...ZWzw~r&vxp=mtr


$1420 with $100 in ebay bucks so $1320.

Re: 350 crate engine intake and carb possible for $3,000?
 

Then you have to buy a balancer as it doesn't come with one.
smog heads.. 76cc chambers..
listed at 8.5 to 1 but they most times cc out to 8.0 to 8.1 to1
flat tappet cam..
1320+balancer (150.oo) water pump 80.oo
Both are on the vortec..
basic 185hp 350 ..

or 350 more and get the vortec..

Depends on what you need.

Re: 350 crate engine intake and carb possible for $3,000?
 

James the III is spot on, the only thing he didn't calculate was the beer money!

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For a little more money, the vortec is a slam dunk in my book.

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I couldn't agree more. Better heads, one piece rear main, and roller cam make for a more economical, more dependable engine with more useable power, especially for a truck.

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You can't beat the GM Vortec Crate engine. I got the 12530283 with 4 bolt mains. It also has hardened valve seats inserts and sodium filled valves which are designed to run cooler. It does come with a balancer, valve covers, and oil pan but not the water pump. One thing some people over look is you need a melonized timing gear not a melonite coated gear.
The Summit Stage 1 intake is perfect for these motors in a 4000 truck. Also don't listen to those who say you should change the factory cam. The factory cam was designed to have low end torque to give a heavy pick-up the power it needs to get going and to give it pulling power for heavy loads. With a good four barrel and headers you should have 300 net hp easily. That would be like dropping a 350 with 350 hp (gross hp)in your truck back in the day when these trucks were made.
If I didn't want headers I would get some 2 1/2 inch ram horns. I never liked headers myself but I already had a set for another hot motor I had in my truck so I used them, now I like them. Just use good gaskets and retighten the bolts after the first run and motor cools. I actually tightened mine while the motor was still hot and rechecked them after it cooled.
These motors are made in Mexico but don't let that bother you, they are GM motors.

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Sub'd.

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doesnt come with a carb and intake but i think this is a great deal and i am gonna research this for my truck

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/f...8795/overview/

Re: 350 crate engine intake and carb possible for $3,000?
 

Will the factory exhaust manifolds work with the vortec. And does it have drilled dipstick holes on both sides? ?

Re: 350 crate engine intake and carb possible for $3,000?
 

Yes, and i'll have to look..
..
1st yes. I'd port match the exhaust manifold to the vortec head ports..

2nd.. I'm almost sure it's on the side all late 70's up are..
I'll look at my engine it's on the stand.. tomorrow..

Re: 350 crate engine intake and carb possible for $3,000?
 

vortec motors had on passenger side only.

Re: 350 crate engine intake and carb possible for $3,000?
 

My daughter upped my spending limit to $4000, with that I'll need to include a dual exhaust. I did my exhaust for around $300. If I do a similar exhaust that will leave me $3700 but I'll need to get everything with it, intake, carb, waterpump, etc. any suggestions? She wants it to be strong and sound mean.

Re: 350 crate engine intake and carb possible for $3,000?
 

The L31 Vortec is still your best bet.

Re: 350 crate engine intake and carb possible for $3,000?
 

I looked one up and from what I read to use in in a non computer controlled truck I would need to replace the cam. Unless I'm reading it wrong?
https://m.summitracing.com/parts/nal-12530283

Re: 350 crate engine intake and carb possible for $3,000?
 

Maybe I'm looking at the wrong engine?

Re: 350 crate engine intake and carb possible for $3,000?
 

You don't need to replace the cam. I'm replacing mine because the block I have happens to be drilled for a mechanical fuel pump, but most of them aren't. That just means you need to run an electric fuel pump (and probably a pressure regulator).

The stock cam will make plenty of torque and horsepower with a carburetor (I like Quadrajets) and HEI ingition. I'm running rams horns (2 1/2 inch Dorman) exhaust manifolds on mine because I got tired of messing with the headers.

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Truckster is correct, you won't have to replace the cam. There are two part numbers for basically the same engine. The one you show is the 4 bolt main, The other is a 2 bolt and ends with a "2" I believe. Either will work just fine, so shop for the best price. Check Amazon as well.

Re: 350 crate engine intake and carb possible for $3,000?
 

No need to change the cam.. no need to change anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bolt on a carb intake.
plumb in an electric fuel pump
put a melonized gear on your distributor.. and a water pump, and your brackets and p/steer pump , alt, and start it..

Re: 350 crate engine intake and carb possible for $3,000?
 

Do you know if the block has the clutch lever mount for a four speed? Been trying to get through to summits tech support all morning but it's been busy. Also wondering if I'll have any issues with the flywheel and if it takes a different starter than a regular 350? Will the ram horn exhaust manifolds from the 307 fit? Thanks!

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...psppjiyigl.jpg[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ps87x23uu2.jpg[/IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...psljjianie.jpg[IMG][IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...pskfkq5oa3.jpg[/IMG][/IMG]Got the new engine installed in the 69 C10 I gave my daughter. She ended up buying a 260 hp 350 from Pace Performance, it came with an Edelbrock intake, Holly Carb, distributor, plugs and wires all installed. Even came with the oil and break in oil in the pan. They even primed it. Also came with a mini starter and flex plate. We put on a dual exhaust and a pair of flowmaster 40's. She spent two days scrubbing 48 years of goo out of the engine bay then used a Scotchbrite pad to rough up the surfaces. I painted the engine bay then dropped the engine in. We picked up the wrong fan, ended up being a reverse rotation so disregard the fan in the pics! That sucker runs great! Tons of power and it does great burnouts! She's getting new tires and rims do once we got the engine broke in we burned off some tread! We also picked up a power disc brake kit to replace the manual drum brakes up front. Haven't got that installed yet. I put in some three point belts since it came without want my grandkids safe when they cruise with their mom! Once we finish all the mechanicals I'm going to repaint the body. It's been a fun project. Even made her a sign to hang in her garage so it's an official service center! I'll post some video of her first drive once it finishes uploading to Photobucket. It sounds really good!

Re: 350 crate engine intake and carb possible for $3,000?
 

Don't look at the exhaust tips! We cut those later and put on some stainless tips.

Re: 350 crate engine intake and carb possible for $3,000?
 

JEGS has a new crate gm motor free shipping $1500.00
http://www.jegs.com/i/Chevrolet-Perf...67353/10002/-1
Check it out.

Re: 350 crate engine intake and carb possible for $3,000?
 

We are pretty happy with the one we got, came with everything, intake, carb, dist, plugs and wires installed, starter and flex plate (we will use the flex plate when we instal the new TH350 in a few months) all for around $2400 delivered.