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Free Candy Inside 05-21-2018 01:18 PM

66 C50 Cummins build aka Big Stupid
 
So hopefully this can stay here. I was posting in the Heavy Haulers section but I’m guessing not many people frequent that as hardly anyone responds to posts.

Here’s my 1966 C50 I picked up last summer. The back story is I had planned on building a C50 over 2 years ago. I actually bought a 62 C50 with plans of building it but realized I didn’t have the funds or budget so I decided to sell it. About 6-8months later I see pics of Dino’s white C50. It drove me nuts because that’s what I was originally going to build. I have a 63 C30 panel (link in signature) that I was driving a lot until I started my CNC Plasma cutting side business. Since the business started I’m always delivering signs, picking up metal, etc. I decided I needed a work truck.

I picked up this 1966 C50 with 30K miles running and driving with a 292 and 4speed. I call it Big Orange. My soon to be wife calls it Big Stupid (at the time she told me if I bought another project before she got a ring she was leaving me. I called her bluff and bought the truck. 6 months later she got her ring. )

jimmythompson1964 05-21-2018 01:31 PM

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Good luck with both your new project and the girlfriend :metal:

Free Candy Inside 05-21-2018 04:12 PM

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Sorry for not posting a pic.. I'm not sure why but it isn't giving me the advanced option on my iPad to post pics.. anyone know why?

Free Candy Inside 05-21-2018 04:15 PM

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Got it. Here she is

Free Candy Inside 05-21-2018 09:15 PM

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Truck handles 4.5 tons of sand to add to a lake property I have access to. Worst part was having to shovel it off. Guess the previous owner removed the dump bed.

Free Candy Inside 05-21-2018 09:18 PM

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Tear down began. The plan was to use a K member from a 1992 G30 Short bus that was given to me. I also planned on using the rear end.

Free Candy Inside 05-21-2018 09:20 PM

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Got the front end mocked up in place and the rear end set in place. The 22” Alcoas looked cool. Definitely got me excited.

Free Candy Inside 05-21-2018 09:33 PM

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This is where things went south. I know I want the truck to sit low, possibly going to bag it. The factory C50 top frame rail is completely straight from the engine back. Unless I wanted to do a manly Z or notch in the front frame rail I didn’t see how the truck was going to sit low enough for my liking. I know I could make it work but it decided time wise it wasn’t worth all the effort to keep the C50 frame. I know the tires are rubber bands ( I got a good deal on the package) but I still needed to make up the 1’ wheel well gap.

Free Candy Inside 05-21-2018 09:45 PM

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Decided to pick up a donor frame. My C50 has s 175” wheelbase so I purchased a 1978 C30 frame for $300. Notice how the frame drops down where the cab will go. The C30 frame has a 161” wheel base which is fine. Figured a little shorter would make it easier to drive and find parking spots.

Free Candy Inside 05-21-2018 09:49 PM

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Managed to get the cab swapped over onto the c30 frame. That lowered the body roughly 6”. I also plan on putting 3” drop spindles on it.

Free Candy Inside 05-21-2018 09:52 PM

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Was able to remove the 12V Cummins from the donor. It came out of a 1994 dodge so it’s a P-pump motor that’s inter cooled.

Free Candy Inside 05-21-2018 09:55 PM

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Cummins mock up. I made engine mounts out of 1/2” and 1/4” plating. Plasma table makes quick work of it.

Free Candy Inside 05-21-2018 09:58 PM

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Couldn’t deal with the tires on the 22’s. Decided it didn’t make sense to spend money on new tires when I could use that to jump to 24’s. Going to make a huge difference. Going from a 265/35/22 at 29” overlall height to a 295/40/24 at 33” height. Factory wheels and tires were 36” tall.

Free Candy Inside 05-21-2018 10:00 PM

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Ready to start mounting the cab.

AJCK87 05-22-2018 01:41 AM

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Awesome rig! Digging the motor swap. Curious how you will make it all come together. I’m still plugging away at my swap. Your body looks to be in much better shape. Good to see you back at it!!

Free Candy Inside 05-22-2018 10:24 PM

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Made some more progress tonight. 24’s are going to fit great!

Dieselwrencher 05-22-2018 10:59 PM

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Very cool project! If I were you I'd be getting some poly type engine mounts for this. Your trans is a 47RH if it came from the same truck. Very good trans and can be operated with toggle switches if you'd like.

Palf70Step 05-23-2018 07:54 AM

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Very kool project. I will enjoy watching this one.

jchav62 05-23-2018 12:03 PM

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Great stuff!

Free Candy Inside 05-24-2018 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 8266504)
Very cool project! If I were you I'd be getting some poly type engine mounts for this. Your trans is a 47RH if it came from the same truck. Very good trans and can be operated with toggle switches if you'd like.

Yes sir! Did the energy suspension engine mounts already. Also put a new tranny mount on it as well. When you do the toggle switch thing do you still run the factory computer with the 47re? I was also going to order up a Lokar 727 shifter for it.

Free Candy Inside 05-24-2018 12:30 PM

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Front end. Bumper is about 10” from the ground. Debating cutting it up and making it about 3” taller (by taller I mean overall height, basically 3" on the bottom end) to match the height of the side steps. Personal pet peeve is cabs being lower than front bumpers.

Dieselwrencher 05-24-2018 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Free Candy Inside (Post 8267559)
Yes sir! Did the energy suspension engine mounts already. Also put a new tranny mount on it as well. When you do the toggle switch thing do you still run the factory computer with the 47re? I was also going to order up a Lokar 727 shifter for it.

What year is your trans from? Does it have 3 pins on the valve body connector? I never run the dodge pcm to control any of the dodge transmisisons. The shift points are never right and you can't really change them. You can get a compushift mini for 47rh transmissions though. Yes, you can use a shifter for a 727.

aggie91 05-24-2018 04:45 PM

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Going to follow this one. I have my eyes on a C50/60 that my cousin has...

Free Candy Inside 05-25-2018 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 8267617)
What year is your trans from? Does it have 3 pins on the valve body connector? I never run the dodge pcm to control any of the dodge transmisisons. The shift points are never right and you can't really change them. You can get a compushift mini for 47rh transmissions though. Yes, you can use a shifter for a 727.

The donor truck was a 1994. I’ll have to take a better look at the connectors.

Dieselwrencher 05-25-2018 03:03 PM

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Your transmission is a 47RH then. Not a 47re. It should have a 3 pin connector on the left side of the trans behind the shift arm and throttle pressure lever.

Free Candy Inside 06-05-2018 07:34 PM

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Not much updates just yet. Been busy finishing out my end of the year teaching and getting ready for my wedding. I did get my seat back from upholstery but I'm not going to post pics of it just yet. I am hoping to make some progress in the next couple of days. Ill be sure to post pics

aggie91 06-06-2018 12:03 PM

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Knowing you are a teacher, just makes you forum name that much more hilarious!

Free Candy Inside 06-07-2018 10:12 AM

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Made a couple of wheel stands the other night so I could hang the 24’s. These things aren’t light.

Free Candy Inside 06-07-2018 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by aggie91 (Post 8275998)
Knowing you are a teacher, just makes you forum name that much more hilarious!

Lol. That was mainly because of my panel truck I built. I was going to get that license plate but I figured that would be frowned upon at school.

Free Candy Inside 06-07-2018 10:15 AM

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I powder coated my wheels in mirror white. Didn’t want the polished look that everyone has.

Free Candy Inside 06-08-2018 12:34 AM

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Got my wheels mounted today and just enough time to put one on. Super stoked. This is on factory C30 suspension. Not even sure it would turn with drop spindles.

jcramsey 06-08-2018 07:38 AM

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Good choice on the white wheels. Looks awesome. Gonna be a sweet truck, keep it up!

aggie91 06-08-2018 11:47 AM

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I like the wheel color. Works well with the factory patina...

Palf70Step 06-09-2018 08:45 AM

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The white looks good. At that angle those things look HUGE.

Free Candy Inside 06-10-2018 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Palf70Step (Post 8277870)
The white looks good. At that angle those things look HUGE.

They are 24" wheels with 295/40/R24 tires which are 33" tall overall so they are pretty damn big!

Free Candy Inside 06-14-2018 09:52 AM

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The 14 bolt that was in the C30 wasn’t wide enough and the tires hit the leaf springs so I swapped it out for a Dana 80 that’s 10” wider.

Android04 06-15-2018 11:38 AM

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Looking good.

Free Candy Inside 07-08-2018 10:04 AM

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Haven’t made much progress and behind on schedule. Got married and went on a 10 day honeymoon so that pretty much ate up the month of June. I started working on mounting the cab and came up with these bolt on cab mounts. Goal is to have the truck done in the next 2 weeks.

Free Candy Inside 07-14-2018 10:50 AM

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Took a few minutes to tear down the front of the Cummins engine to check on the “killer dowl pin” that they use during assembly to align the front gear cover to the engine block. The dowl pin can come out and fall into the gear drive and ruin the whole motor. I found mine had backed out about 3/8” so it was well on its way to destruction. I knocked it back in and made a hold down tab for it so it won’t be an issue in the future.

66K20 07-17-2018 11:41 AM

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Neat build!

Will you go back to a flatbed?


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