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chrismoore701 07-22-2018 09:25 PM

Tired of trans pan leaking
 
I have a turbo 350 and the pan keeps leaking. So i am done with the stick pan and looking to get an aluminum one. What is the best pan for the money?

Thanks
Chris

kwmech 07-22-2018 09:54 PM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
Sure it's the pan? Sometimes there are other small leaks that transfer down to the pan area that can be misleading

chrismoore701 07-22-2018 10:02 PM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
Yes. I have replaced the other seals

Matt Man 07-22-2018 10:25 PM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
I put this on my trans when I had it rebuilt, works great no leaks. However, I would use a gasket with the steel insert in it instead of the cork one. Also, the extra fluid won't hurt. Its not the cheapest pan out there, but buy one cry once.

https://www.jegs.com/i/B-M/130/30280/10002/-1

pontgta 07-22-2018 10:40 PM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
I use to get what seemed like 100% leak rate. I then got a 1/4 torque wrench, and now no more leaks:metal::metal:. This is of course assuming your pan is flat and has no issues.

geezer#99 07-22-2018 10:49 PM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
Is the vent clean?

andyh1956 07-22-2018 11:37 PM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
The TP Cable O Ring is notorious for seeping fluid & will manifest it's self on the pan flange.

chrismoore701 07-23-2018 07:39 AM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
I had one bolt in the pan that was stripped out, helicoil is now installed and getting a new bolt. The big issue I have noticed is a large spot on the garage floor from sitting a week or so. I am thinking it is the pan. I had a rubber gasket, that will be replaced with cork.

69heavychevy 07-23-2018 07:28 PM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
I have the B&M pan mentioned above. Very solid unit. I've used it with a cork gasket and had no leaks. Correct torque is key with cork gaskets.
By the way I had the same issue with my trans leaking after sitting a few days. My leak was coming from a hole in the slip yoke. Threw some silicone on it, and stopped it. Now the only leak I have is from the speedometer bullet, haven't been able to fix that one.

MikeB 07-23-2018 08:28 PM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
Get one of these cast aluminum pans and you will never have another pan gasket leak. That's because the gasket surface is very thick and won't warp like a stamped sheet metal pan. They're available from a kazillion vendors.

https://www.amazon.com/Chevy-Turbo-T.../dp/B003AOZMMY

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chrismoore701 07-23-2018 08:50 PM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
I think that is the one i ordered. I tried to get a cork gasket but they don’t have any. Rubber ok with this one? Rtv?

MikeB 07-23-2018 08:54 PM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
Mine came with a cork gasket, but fibrous rubber would be nice. I wouldn't use sealant with any of them because the gasket will want to move around.

kwmech 07-24-2018 07:29 PM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
Yes, definitely no sealer/silicone......it acts like a lubricant when wet....makes the gasket slip out sideways

Ol Blue K20 07-24-2018 07:54 PM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
My turbo350 would leak after sitting a few days. It wound up being the kick down cable o ring. I replaced it Nd the dipstick tube o ring. New filter and pan gasket no more leak.

S10Fan 07-25-2018 05:55 AM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
I had leak issues with a TH350 in my Model A HotRod. After installing an aluminum pan like the one posted above and a gasket from Lube Locker, there's not a hint of fluid leak. I also changed the shift shaft seal, save yourself time and buy the correct tool for changing the seal.

Lube Locker gasket.............
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/l...g350/overview/

chrismoore701 07-25-2018 07:35 AM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by S10Fan (Post 8308326)
I had leak issues with a TH350 in my Model A HotRod. After installing an aluminum pan like the one posted above and a gasket from Lube Locker, there's not a hint of fluid leak. I also changed the shift shaft seal, save yourself time and buy the correct tool for changing the seal.

Lube Locker gasket.............
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/l...g350/overview/

Thanks, already changed the sift seal. Have the tool, agree with you 100%

chrismoore701 07-26-2018 07:35 AM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
Trans pan installed. Leaking worse than ever. It is leaking between the two (2) front bolts of the pan. I put the rubber gasket on here it came with. Did not have time to order a better one. But in 2 hours there was a 12" dia. puddle under the truck. The other issue is this is the third time I had this pan off in 2 years and now I have three holes stripped. Helicoils installed so we are good. Should I just put coils in all the holes?

geezer#99 07-26-2018 08:50 AM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
Did you ever check the vent?

Ol Blue K20 07-26-2018 08:50 AM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
What are you torqing the bolts at?

Desert1957 07-26-2018 08:58 AM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
2 front bolts?

Front pump o ring?
Torque converter shaft seal?
Cracked case?

Iv'e seen a lot of leaks up front sling around by the torque converter, then drip after vehicle sits over night.

Brake clean it off and watch it...

chrismoore701 07-26-2018 10:15 AM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
The two front bolts of the pan. I torqued to 10 ftlbs. I did not check the vent. I was in a rush last night. Could this cause the pan to leak? It is defiantly coming from the pan. I will check that. What about getting that fancy gasket from summit?

geezer#99 07-26-2018 11:13 AM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
The hot air in the case needs to go somewhere.
If the vent is plugged the hot high air pressure will push out gaskets.

chrismoore701 07-26-2018 02:12 PM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
I'm on it

Thanks
Chris

Ol Blue K20 07-26-2018 03:29 PM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
Bolt holes shouldn't be striping unless they're over torqued. I believe their supposed to be 35 inch pounds

chrismoore701 07-26-2018 04:23 PM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
Every where I saw was 10-13 ftlbs. So I did 120 inchlbs just to use my smaller wrench. I looked at multiple sites. No telling what I did to this thing years ago, It was on my original engine and had it freshened up 4,000 miles ago.

chrismoore701 07-26-2018 06:44 PM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
Project update. I looked and i have no vent. I poked around with a small drill bit and seems like the hole is plugged solid. Almost like it is from factory. I assume there is not a chance it would be sealed off. What’s my next step? I have 4000 miles on this since a fresh up that i had a trans shop do for me before i installed the motor.

Thoughts?

Thanks

chrismoore701 07-26-2018 07:24 PM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
My buddy said to lift the dipstick cap and let it vent there.

cerial 07-26-2018 09:31 PM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
The vent tube(check valve) on your th350 is 8-10" above the gear selector seal.

Should be able to run your paw up there and feel it.

If you remove the driveshaft(s) and lower the cross member you can drop the transmission enough to install a tube or replace the check valve. Pull your distributor cap also just to be safe.

Some shops will paint right over the thing or never replace it.

If the thing is 2wd a check valve is alright to run. If 4wd a tube going up the bell and to the firewall will avoid you thinking about another rebuild when you have a water/mud slurry seeping into the cab.

chrismoore701 07-26-2018 09:54 PM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
The issue is the hole is plugged solid. I can feel it. Concerned about pushing what ever is in the home into the trans. Options?

S10Fan 07-27-2018 05:28 AM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chrismoore701 (Post 8309657)
The issue is the hole is plugged solid. I can feel it. Concerned about pushing what ever is in the home into the trans. Options?

Situations like this is why I bought one of these to keep in my tool box............

https://www.ebay.com/itm/6-LED-USB-W...from=R40&rt=nc

cadillac_al 07-27-2018 07:34 AM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
Why would a rebuilder plug the vent? Rookie mistake.

chrismoore701 07-27-2018 12:17 PM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cadillac_al (Post 8309811)
Why would a rebuilder plug the vent? Rookie mistake.

That is a good question, I think I might call him, it was a long time ago, but maybe something he knows or normally does.

So the question is, how do I go about getting it open? Stab it with a pick? Drill it out? what?

thanks

chrismoore701 07-27-2018 12:27 PM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
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I called the trans shop, they said they would never seal it, which is what I expected, but look at the pic I found, No breather.

geezer#99 07-27-2018 12:54 PM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
What’s in that vent hole 10 inches straight up from the shift shaft?

MikeB 07-27-2018 07:41 PM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Desert1957 (Post 8309202)
2 front bolts?

Front pump o ring?
Torque converter shaft seal?
Cracked case?

Iv'e seen a lot of leaks up front sling around by the torque converter, then drip after vehicle sits over night.

Brake clean it off and watch it...

Yes, you are well beyond pan gasket leak. :(

chrismoore701 07-28-2018 07:35 AM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geezer#99 (Post 8309994)
What’s in that vent hole 10 inches straight up from the shift shaft?



That is the question. It feels hard as hell. What do i do to get it out? Stab it with an ice pick? Drain the pan and blow air into it? I have a new pan with a drain plug? Or drill it out?

Thanks

geezer#99 07-28-2018 08:57 AM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
Take a closeup pic.
Post it for us and take it to your tranny guy and show him (if the tranny is still on warranty).
Might just be a soft plug.

cadillac_al 07-28-2018 08:58 AM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
Whatever is in there should be able to be drilled out. If you drill very slow most of the material should be pulled upward by the drill bit and hopefully very little will end up in the trans. It can't be metal so whatever it is shouldn't be terribly harmful and should stay in the pan and the filter won't let it in the valve body. How did the rebuilder not notice this??

chrismoore701 07-28-2018 09:05 AM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geezer#99 (Post 8310505)
Take a closeup pic.
Post it for us and take it to your tranny guy and show him (if the tranny is still on warranty).
Might just be a soft plug.

Had it freshened up 4-5 years ago. As you can see from the pic had it done. Dropped on the frame. Then built the truck. On the road 3 years. 4,000 miles. Minor leaks.

Now this.

geezer#99 07-28-2018 11:05 AM

Re: Tired of trans pan leaking
 
If ever need to drill anything out and you’re worried about shavings, just put some grease on the drill bit. The shavings will stick to the grease.


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