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hdrolling 06-04-2022 01:37 PM

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Bought this 72 last year. Decided it's going to be a lot more work than I thought when I bought so I figured I'd update as I go.

I'm going on 50 years old and disabled so the progress is slow.

Previous owner installed a 69-70 front clip and 90's bed, as well as a bunch of other questionable mods.

Pics when I bought it 9-10 months ago.

Warrens69GMC 06-04-2022 01:43 PM

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in to see the results

hdrolling 06-04-2022 01:49 PM

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Skipping ahead, replaced most of the interior/wheels and tires. All new front and rear disk brakes and slotted drill rotors and brake lines, new 5" rear shocks/C-notch/ shock relocators and adjustable pan hard bar.
March pulley system and new Holly 600 carb, new summit ceramic long tubes with the Flowmaster American thunder exhaust kit w/ 44's and a H pipe.

Replaced the floor pans and inner rockers, pulled the 90's bed.

Led Truck-Lite headlights, and LED front turns signals.

Every window was replaced with tinted windows.

hdrolling 06-04-2022 01:52 PM

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Currently fitting the new bed, seems good just figuring out the tail light location. Decided on 55 LED tail lights with no reverse lights.

Mark -k white oak pre drilled bed kit.

hdrolling 06-04-2022 02:00 PM

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Next up is to disassemble prep and paint the bed and stain and treat the wood. Looking at using a darker stain but not ready to start that until the bed is painted so I can do my last wood checks before I drill the side pieces.

Already have some marine spar ready to go for the wood.

Just installed a new TCI 500 hp TH350 trans and have a new Blueprint Vortec 350 with 376 hp and 406 tq ready to install. Will be using a 26-2800 stall

Holly sniper EFI has been sitting in a box for a few months, will be going on after the 500 mile engine break in.

hdrolling 06-04-2022 02:03 PM

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I'll be updating now as I go along, hoping to get some paint done by next week.

Free more pics of the upgrades.

CG 06-04-2022 02:06 PM

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Coming along nicely! Are you going to stick with the monochrome front and rear (painted everything vs stock) ?

hdrolling 06-04-2022 02:12 PM

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Forgot to mention I'll be installing CPP front and rear sway bars, I'll do that while the paint and stain are drying.

After the bed is done I need to do the front lowering, I was going to do just cpp 3" front springs but now I plan to order CPP 2.5 lowing spindles and either a 2" lowering spring or just try the 3" I currently have.

And then I add lowering blocks to the rear to match what ever I decide to use on the front.

More pics

hdrolling 06-04-2022 02:18 PM

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Coming along nicely! Are you going to stick with the monochrome front and rear (painted everything vs stock) ?

Yes sticking with the full cover match vs chrome, I have a little chrome here and there but wanted to be a little different than every other fully restored stock looking C10.

I already painted the rear bumper, bought a small amount of paint that the store matched for me to make sure it was going to be good.

Paint looks black or dark gray in low light but its a metallic gray that looks blueish sometimes and greenish at other angles.

68Gold/white 06-04-2022 02:18 PM

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Glad to see the Mountain Dew (cold snack!!!)
Be careful of the rear lowering blocks. They can allow suspension parts to get VERY close to the ground. Sometimes a flat tire can cause the suspension to drag.
Carry on!!!

MySons68C20 06-04-2022 02:27 PM

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Looking good in for the ride!

hdrolling 06-04-2022 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 68Gold/white (Post 9087217)
Glad to see the Mountain Dew (cold snack!!!)
Be careful of the rear lowering blocks. They can allow suspension parts to get VERY close to the ground. Sometimes a flat tire can cause the suspension to drag.
Carry on!!!

Hey thanks for the warning, something I haven't seen or heard about so I'll research that for sure.

Maybe a good reason just to go with a 1" and keep it a 4.5/6 vs 5.5/7.

Jason Banks 06-04-2022 07:23 PM

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Think twice about the CPP roll bars. I'm not so happy with them. Wish I had spent a little more and bought the No Limit roll bars. They have to be more well thought out than the CPP.

The way the front sway bar connects to the control arm will interfere with my tie rod sleeves unless I have the bolts clocked a certain way.

The no limit rear bar ends up over the frame and not the lowest point of the entire truck. Not to mention how CPP expects you to somehow put one of your mouting bolts in the center of the rear trailing arms(where the middle part of the I beam is) and their tech department is no help.

Edit to add: CPP7401 is what I used rear and CPP7423 is front. It appears they make many different ones and wanted to specify.

hdrolling 06-04-2022 09:01 PM

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Think twice about the CPP roll bars. I'm not so happy with them. Wish I had spent a little more and bought the No Limit roll bars. They have to be more well thought out than the CPP.

The way the front sway bar connects to the control arm will interfere with my tie rod sleeves unless I have the bolts clocked a certain way.

The no limit rear bar ends up over the frame and not the lowest point of the entire truck. Not to mention how CPP expects you to somehow put one of your mouting bolts in the center of the rear trailing arms(where the middle part of the I beam is) and their tech department is no help.

Edit to add: CPP7401 is what I used rear and CPP7423 is front. It appears they make many different ones and wanted to specify.

Yes those are the same two part numbers I have here at the house, I watched a few youtube videos before buying and didn't see anyone mentioning the issues you had. Install seemed pretty straight forward, while watching. So did you ever get them installed or did you go with the no limits parts first?

I don't really need the sway bars since we take it pretty easy and just cruise around, it was more of a "since the bed is already off why not" impulse buy.

I was also looking at the Hellwig sway bar since I use them on my 2018 silverado dually, but those are in the $500 range vs the $100 range for th CPP bars.

I'll do so more research before I get to far into installing them, thanks for the heads up.

Jason Banks 06-04-2022 09:37 PM

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Since you already bought them, you'll probably be alright.

I'm using them but knowing there is something that fits so much better for not that much more money sucks. I feel like they were a compromise on quality, but a good price.

For the front, just make sure to check for clearance throughout the travel of the suspension. I'm pretty sure mine would only hit when the suspension is a full droop.

For the rear, you will probably be able to get the mounts mounted by offsetting to one side. I made some plates to clamp the mount in place instead of having to drill a hole so near to the edge of the trailing arm. I have 4/6 drop and it is undoubtedly the lowest hanging part of my truck. Can't wait for it to collect some road debris and see what happens...

edit: found this pic of the rear install - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...5&postcount=11 not on mine, but similar to how the instructions say. One bolt ends up uncomfortably close to the edge of the trailing arm.

FRENCHBLUE72 06-11-2022 02:15 PM

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Great looking truck keep up the good work...

Getter-Done 06-11-2022 03:03 PM

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Very nice:metal:

I like paint that looks different in different lighting.

swclassics 06-12-2022 06:16 PM

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Looking good!! Like the direction you're going.

dmjlambert 06-12-2022 06:57 PM

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hdrolling thanks for bringing us along for the ride, this is looking amazing. You've really made major improvements with everything you've touched on it.

So those spring compressors that were on the truck when you bought it, what's the deal with those? Is that something people buy and install permanently to lower their trucks? Or is that a tool?

If you still have that glove box door that came with the truck I'd like to see a photo of it.

hdrolling 06-13-2022 09:13 AM

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hdrolling thanks for bringing us along for the ride, this is looking amazing. You've really made major improvements with everything you've touched on it.

So those spring compressors that were on the truck when you bought it, what's the deal with those? Is that something people buy and install permanently to lower their trucks? Or is that a tool?

If you still have that glove box door that came with the truck I'd like to see a photo of it.

Yeah no the compressors shouldn't be left on the truck, pretty much a tool to compress the springs so they don't go flying when your trying to remove them from the truck.

Here is the the glove box. When I re did my door panels they had inserts that were covered with material, under the cloth was a fake woodgrain that I re covered with my red houndstooth.
I'm guessing that this glovebox had a wood grain cover and the original owner painted on that?
Might have been from a GMC?

hdrolling 06-13-2022 09:30 AM

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Seems I need to get motivated on working on the truck, all the paint supplies for the bed are sitting in a few boxes.
New crate 350 sitting on the stand with a box filled with Holly sniper and accessories next to it.

And now I have boxes of CPP front end suspension parts, 2.5 drop spindle/ 2" lowering shocks/ Tubular upper and lower control arms and my front and rear sway bars are all just sitting here now.

I have all new Moog tie rod/ pitman and Idle arms ordered as well as a CPP aluminum tie rod adjusting sleeve.
Should be everything I need to lower and redo the front end.

Wife and kids were off and home last week so I didn't spend anytime on the truck.

Before that, while I was working on placement for my taillights, I had my truck half out of the garage to give me room to work and stay in the shade.
Went in to cool off and my wife came home and decided out of habit to close the garage door on my truck....

Luckily it only broke one of my wipers blades, they were old and dry rotted anyways so I put some new TRICO Classic blades on, very nice quality by the way.

Hoping to get some progress done this week......

71meangreenc10 06-13-2022 09:49 AM

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Yeah no the compressors shouldn't be left on the truck, pretty much a tool to compress the springs so they don't go flying when your trying to remove them from the truck.

Here is the the glove box. When I re did my door panels they had inserts that were covered with material, under the cloth was a fake woodgrain that I re covered with my red houndstooth.
I'm guessing that this glovebox had a wood grain cover and the original owner painted on that?
Might have been from a GMC?



Yes,
That is a GMC glovebox emblem. I have one just like it (without the art).

Smitty

hdrolling 06-13-2022 04:44 PM

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New to me part came in, 72 NC Farm Truck plate.

I'm not sure if all states do this since I just learned NC does, but here as long as you keep the current registration and plate in your truck then you can run a plate that was issued the same production year of your truck.

Thought it was kind of neat so I picked one up for my truck.

68Gold/white 06-13-2022 09:32 PM

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Those rear spring compressors can be used to lower a vehicle, or raise it. Something JC Whitney and other folks sold back in the day.

Gregski 06-13-2022 09:52 PM

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Dude! it actually looks really really good with that mini stepside bed

hdrolling 06-19-2022 02:56 PM

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Had a little delay in front end parts, ordered CPP parts and the tie rods didn't all have Zerk fittings. Figured if I was going to do the work that I wanted to be able to grease everything, so I ordered all Moog parts.
Here are some pics of the differences, moog (gold) vs CPP (black).

Also the Moog parts were all labeled made in the USA.

OneOffStroker 06-20-2022 06:12 AM

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New to me part came in, 72 NC Farm Truck plate.

I'm not sure if all states do this since I just learned NC does, but here as long as you keep the current registration and plate in your truck then you can run a plate that was issued the same production year of your truck.

Thought it was kind of neat so I picked one up for my truck.

In Virginia, you can run the old plates as long as you register it as antique (registration has the antique plate numbers associated). I have 1972 plates on my C-10. And better yet, if you get the vehicle inspected, the antique limitations are superceded, and you can drive the truck every day!

A lot of people here register as antique so that they don't have to get inspections, but I look at it the other way: pay for plates once since antique plates are 'permanent' and still drive whenever/wherever you want.

hdrolling 06-20-2022 07:47 AM

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In Virginia, you can run the old plates as long as you register it as antique (registration has the antique plate numbers associated). I have 1972 plates on my C-10. And better yet, if you get the vehicle inspected, the antique limitations are superceded, and you can drive the truck every day!

A lot of people here register as antique so that they don't have to get inspections, but I look at it the other way: pay for plates once since antique plates are 'permanent' and still drive whenever/wherever you want.

That sounds like a good deal, here in NC if your vehicle is over 30 years your exempt from inspections.
And I'm 100% total and permeant disabled Veteran, so my plates are free.
I just need to get the plates for this truck. All my other vehicle already have it, with the old 72 plate I'll still have to use my rearview mirror disabled placard but I already have that.

hdrolling 06-26-2022 02:44 PM

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Got around to putting some epoxy primer and bed liner on the inside of the fenders and under the steps today. Hopefully two coats will be enough.

Trying to do the actual paint this week so I can get the truck ready for a drive on the 4th of July.

hdrolling 12-06-2023 02:40 PM

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Took a year or so off and finally got around to getting back to the bed.

I got everything painted the the wood floor done. Wired all the taillights today with a new intermediate harness and rear harness since there wasn't one.

LED tail lights work great but I need another grounding flasher for the four ways to work, tail lights came with one so I tried it on the four ways and they worked.

Took me about half an hour of trouble shooting the reverse lights to remember that truck was a manual and the previous owner installed a TH350. I have a Dakota digital module that I need to connect, it will give me back the reverse lights and the neutral safety switch. As well as show what gear I'm in on my gauges so I need to finish wiring that up as well.

loudchevy 12-07-2023 10:33 AM

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The new wood bed looks fantastic. Nice job.

Ol Blue K20 12-07-2023 06:05 PM

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Looks great, nice job!

clay68c10 12-08-2023 08:45 AM

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That is quite the transformation! Nice job.

hdrolling 12-11-2023 12:53 PM

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Lights are working now, four way flasher module with a ground fixed the issue with my hazards. Bed came with these polished caps for the holes so I stuck them in.

I have one gap on the rear of the hood on the passenger side I need to mess with, and I bought a special wrench to get to the door hinges so I can raise them up a bit without removing the fenders.
Doors hinge bolts were a little loose and the door started to rub on the rockers, I bought all new hinges but if I can adjust and not need to install them yet Id rather get to the new tubular control arms and engine install first.

dagnabbitt 12-11-2023 01:02 PM

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Love the progress you are making, truck looks like a million bucks already.

Wow, that Mar-K bedwood is just... wow. What did you use on it to bring that grain and color out?

hdrolling 12-11-2023 02:57 PM

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Love the progress you are making, truck looks like a million bucks already.

Wow, that Mar-K bedwood is just... wow. What did you use on it to bring that grain and color out?

Thanks, I went heavy with Espresso color brown stain and let it soak in. Then I sanded it back down to bare wood but the grain was still dark, then I put a light coat of the expresso on and wiped it right off.

Another member had his the same way and I asked what he did, his was with a matt clear and looked great but I wanted mine glossy.

RCbowtie69 12-14-2023 12:34 PM

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looking good keep up the hard work & keep on truckin :metal:

hdrolling 02-11-2024 12:06 PM

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I got around to installing my CPP 4 1/2" tubular front suspension this weekend, should ride a little better than the 3 1/2" cut springs the previous owner had.

Still have a 1" rear block to install and front and rear sway bars but it already looks much better to me.

regan wilson 02-11-2024 08:10 PM

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Looks nice. I wish I had a driver like that.

raggedjim 02-12-2024 09:42 AM

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Nice truck!

Rg


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