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The Tesla looks like a high school shop project. Of all the Tesla vehicles, this is one that probably won't sell very well. Certainly not when you compare it to a nice-looking Rivian pickup, or even an F150 Lightning EV.

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I agree, it's ugly.
I will never purchase a car/truck that I could have designed.
I am an EV fan, however.
I routinely drive 235-miles one way.
$5 to get there and $1.80 to get home.
Electricity is less inexpensive there.
That's less than a penny and a half, per mile, average.

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I’ll gladly pay the extra money in gas to drive something that has a soul.

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Rivian is a credible offroad vehicle, and the SUV version looks really nice.

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At, let's say, $3.40/gallon, $6.80 would buy 2 gallons of gasoline. So your average is 235 eMPG, right? What kind of stations do you use? Brand, equipment, or whatever? And what are their charging speeds and cost per kWh? I guess speed doesn't really matter if you plug-in at work or at home. Sounds like an ideal situation for an EV.http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/i...ons/icon14.gif

We may have an EV in our future. It would work great for 75% of my wife's driving, but currently her car is the one we take on road trips, typically in the southwest, where charging stations are few and far between. In fact, EVs on the highways we travel are almost non-existent except when we're close to towns.

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Imagine you lived in Wenatchee where electricity is 3 cents per KWH.
My daughter has a Tesla Model 3 Performance and her bill only went up like
$5.00 a month. She commutes about 40 miles per day.

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Idk why anyone tries to justify an EV with their savings in fuel. When you factor in the price difference of an EV compared to an economy car, how much money are you really saving? Are you saving money at all? Sorry but these teslas are hideous. Idc what your mileage is. I wouldn’t have it if you gave it to me.

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I have other cars "with soul".
My Love my LS1 C10 has 354hp at the wheels buy my EV is faster, much faster.
Love them both.

My maintenance for the first year, on the EV, was $20 to fix a flat.
Next year, the manufacture suggests I replace the cabin air filter.
I have done the math. After about 40 or 50K the costs are even and go down after that.
My EV never needs a transmission repair, oil change or new O2 sensors.
I just had the oil changed on my Tahoe, at the dealer. Came back with a recommended $2400 in sales pitch stuff. One of the biggest advantages it not having to put up with that BS.


I do most my driving in the area, like most people.
A trip to the store is like eight cents.

MySons68C20 nailed it, Wenatchee area.

jessemthompson: Yes, the Cyber Trucks are hideous. I get economy mileage without the Economy Box feeling and performance.

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I say EV’s are cool although not for me, they have there place for some. Not the majority. Without the innovation we would be a stagnant place of existence.

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Many EV owners have forgotten that in 2025 you all will be start paying back into the highway road tax. It will be interesting to see how fast these vehicles are sold.
Vic

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Wow not a word about towing capability ?

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We got free charging at work. A friend of mine drove an electric Fiat 500 and what he saved in gas more than covered the lease ;-)

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I would not recommend towing with an EV.
I would not recommend an EV if you can't charge at home.
I would not recommend an EV if you live where it gets below 0.

I do pay a higher registration fee for an EV.

I guess I only want others to know how crazy efficient they are.

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Yep! that Tesla truck is ugly!

But I'm seeing more and more of them on the road these days, unfortunately.

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What strikes me as funny is that Teslas are built at the same Fremont plant where my '68 C/10 Stepside and '67 K/10 Suburban were built.

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My electric rate is .098 per KWH . Plus a delivery charge that usually averages higher than the cost of the power and goes up the more we use . I have nothing against EVs but I doubt I’ll ever own one . Specially that ugly “truck”

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all I know is that the Tesla owners can't drive worth a sh*t.....at least not here in NJ.

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Interesting article on the Fremont plant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Fremont_Factory

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I drive my '69 1500 to work on the daily.
One of my work buddies just bought a cyber truck.
another one just got a military surplus diesel humvee for some reason.
Parked all next to each other in the work parking lot, it makes for a pretty good photo among in a sea of shiny RAM 2500s.


I put solar panels on our house a couple years ago, so whenever my wife needs a new car, I'll buy an EV so I can power it for free, which I would love.
But my commute is 3 miles a day, and I like driving this old truck, so I'm going to just keep on enjoying my good ol' gettin-around truck for my daily ride. It still just costs me one tank of gas every few weeks at that rate.
Lots of options out there and you gotta just do what works for you, and hopefully enjoy it!

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That's a nice lookin' Stepside, Panhandle.

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Well said.http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/i...ons/icon14.gif

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Totally agree. Well said, especially the innovation part.

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Well stated and I imagine a lot of us feel the same way !

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We will see a lot of this moving forward.

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I saw that same Tesla ''truck'' Eastbound on the I-10 in PHX this August. I remembered Cyberpunk. He was not under tow then. Dude was booking.

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Thanks Sunshine! I think it's beautiful. My wife will at least admit "it has a lot of character. More character than paint!" :lol:

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Ain't that the truth! My wife's last two cars were Infiniti SUVs, and we got the first few oil changes for free. But starting at around 15K miles, the dealers (I used two of them over the years) would text me saying the car needed a bunch of services, even if the owner's manual showed them due at 30K-75K. And the prices were off-the-charts crazy -- usually $900-$1,100 total!

She now has a Kia Telluride, which blows away both the Infinitis. And so far the dealer service department hasn't done anything but change the oil & filter and thank us for our business. Apparently they didn't get the e-mail about building profit through unnecessary, overpriced maintenance.;)

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That’s a rocket engine, not a jet engine.

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My wife and youngest son have Souls, and I have a Forte. The dealer's service department has never tried to hustle anything on us, unlike the local Toyota dealer. Those guys were nothing short of predatory.

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Update my electric usage was $35 for the month of November . Delivery was $142 dollars and a bunch of other tax’s added on top . Real rip off if you ask me

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Ok, don't throw rocks but 95% of our (wife and I) driving is under the 80% safe limit of our Bolt EV - max 230 but 88% charge is about 203 miles. With Ohio's added registration fee (for road usage) - insurance is a wash, it cost me 15.5 cents per KW at home. My 240v charger which cost me $300 - I installed - charges 30 miles each hour. I get over 4.1 miles per KW - about 12.5 cents per mile. No oil changes and no gas stations. A car getting about 30 miles per gallon is about 28 cents per mile canceling out near equal items.

We drive it a lot - it excels on short trips compared to firing up an ICE. Yep I still have an XT6 Cad and a Duramax truck. I will keep the 2500HD but someday I would like to get a Lyriq only for a car.

Using commercial charging stations puts the cost a little less than gas. The chargers around here are 35 cents per KW but are a hassle.

To store commercial solar power, I say charge during the daylight if you can and the Tesla is an ugly truck. I am on a coop and electricity is the same rate all the day.

Forget oil, gas, solar, wind, or natural gas for the electric, I save money and that is what will sell anything.

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They swapped reliance on foreign oil for reliance on foreign resources of minerals from other countries.
An EV battery contains various critical minerals, including copper, nickel, and lithium, the large majority of which the United States imports from countries such as China, Brazil, Chile, Australia, and South Africa.

What really gets my goat is that the vouchers, rebates, tax credits, and sales tax exemptions are paid for with MY tax dollars.

Musk gets the full price for his crap and Uncle Sam uses my money to make up the difference for all the sales incentives. GM and ford would love such a deal. Well, at least for real cars. I guess they're selling EVs as well.

Where I live EV owners show proof of ownership and charge their EV during the night at nearly 1/2 daytime rates.

Some people think an EV is going to save the world. They think they're going GREEN.
85% of the electricity coming out those wall sockets comes flom fossil fuels. More EVs simply means more fossil fuel.

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According to the specialists, a Tesla has more American-made parts than any other.
Only one American automaker made it into the list of the top 10 most American-made cars, as compiled by Cars.com.\

It wasn’t Stellantis (parent of Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, and Ram), either;
Cars.com researchers examined 338 cars to rank the top 100 on “five criteria: assembly location, parts content, engine origin, transmission origin, and U.S. manufacturing workforce.”

An important caveat: for parts content, Cars.com counts Canada as part of the U.S.
The Top Ten, in order:

Tesla Model Y
Tesla Model 3
Tesla Model X
Tesla Model S
Honda Passport
Volkswagen ID.4
Honda Odyssey
Acura MDX
Honda Ridgeline
Acura RDX

Several new large deposits of lithium have been discovered in the US. Other cars also have copper and steel.

85% of the electricity coming out those wall sockets comes from fossil fuels.
This is true. However, the boilers are typically 85% efficient the very best automotive engine is 40% efficient and the average is closer to 20%. This leaves a lot of room for the efficiencies of electricity to shine. One thing the electrics can do is, during regen, put electrons back into the tank. No other vehicle type can do this.

I get the part about tax dollars going to EV. IMHO, that was a kickstart, and the rebates will not last long.
I have seven cars and only one is an EV.
Drive what makes you happy.

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85% efficiency don’t mean jack when so many idiots are doing everything they can to get rid of coal/gas fired plants and gas turbines in favor of all the greenie crap that doesn’t work worth a damn without a plant to push the power thru the lines…. I find it hilarious that they were all about banning all coal/gas/nuke plants in favor all carbon free energy, they shut a large number of plants down in favor of green energy only to realize that it won’t work so now nuclear and gas is the answer again, even though they are very quiet at admitting it. I work in a gas fired plant and look after a few gas turbines in case that wasn’t obvious.

I don’t hate Elon, but I have no desire to buy Tesla’s or anyone else’s electric vehicles. This is the only style Tesla I can get behind… https://m.youtube.com/shorts/fZW7kcm5A0o

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That's the One cool Tesla on the planet.

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Personally, I wouldn't own one of those if they were giving them away free. Or any other EV.

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