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What would you offer ? SWB 4x4
I found someone with a swb 4x4 project truck 4 sale, and was wondering what you guys think a fare offer would be. The truck is NOT a matching #s truck.
72 swb frame sand blasted & por15 3/4 ton front & rear diffs (DH44 & 14 bolt I think ) 3/4 ton drive shafts 700r4 tranny ( beefed up ) ( Said cost him $1,100 ) 208 transfer case 70 cab nees rockers only nice swb fleet side bed ( diamond plate floor ) 70 nose ? on condition rebuilt 350 stock, still on stand new rear drums & disc kit also Blazer tank in frame 2-1/2 soft ride lift kit This truck has been garaged for the last ten yrs while he's been working on it. It,s current state is a rolling chasis with the cab, tranny & transfer case on it. The rest is in parts. Said he has $9,000 into it. Does not have a match vin tag. He has sent some pic's, hard to tell mutch from them. He is going to send more. The truck is about a 5 hr drive to look at it. What do you think would be a fare range, high to low would be for this truck. Any input would be appreciated. Gary |
Gary, I Paid 10k For My Unfinished Project, Click The "GQ" Link On
My Sig For Pic's, This Might Give You An Idea, It Might Not, I Can Tell You Without Detailed Pic's It Will Be Hard For Anyone From This Board To Validate The Value Of That Project Correctly. ;) |
Luv2xclr8
I don't think this truck is in the condition that yours is, but I do think it's a solid PROJECT. I expect I'll need to purchase additional parts, complete the assembly and paint it. It's the vin tag that bothers me. I've done a complete ground up before so I no what's involved. It's more what's the value with out the vin tag.
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Gary, Mine Is Not All O.E. Either, But It All Matches The Vin Tag
Pretty Well, Except The Motor, You Can Always Find Vin Tags, I Just Sold A Title And Vin Tag To Someone For This Very Purpose. (Mine is a complete frame off, every last detail been gone through, tub was disassembled, media blasted, rust prevented, and primed.) |
I paid $8000 for mine. But it is numbers match w/ 65000 miles. You can see a pic if you click on my name above.
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Maybe it's just me, but not having a matching VIN is HUGE. I would expect to give much much less for that then a comprable project with a good VIN.
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Project truck
Bobalouie & 67c10step
Bobalouie: Nice truck !!!!! My current truck was originaly the same color as yours, it was a step side swb 4x4. I have owned it since 83 and it has gone trough 2 resterations in that time. It's currently blue, with a wood bed on it. I'm looking to collect all the parts to restore it once again, this time I'll keep it out of the salt & snow. 67c10step: Not having the correct vin tag is what's bothering me about this truck. As you said the price should be lower than a matching #s truck. He told me he has about $9,000 into the truck as it sits, but he's only asking $5,500 for it. It still needs lots of work and parts to complete, I would expect to have close to $10,000 into it by the time it would be done, and not have the correct vin. It would be a very nice truck but the value of it would be low due to the vin tag. Not that I plan on selling it, but having the correct vin would help to protect my investment. Gary Does anyone have a swb 4x4 vin tag & tittle for sale ???? |
If I understand the issue (cab's VIN is not a K vin plate) thenI'm not sure why this matters to you other than as a bargaining chip to get a better price. You're in NH and the truck is exempt from title laws. You only need a bill of sale to legally register it, and at least where I live, noone cross-references VINS.
As far as protecting the investment, from your description the truck is not a factory stocker (3/4 ton running gear etc) so it'll never have "numbers matching" value from a collector's standpoint. Being a 4x4 and in the northeast and rust-free will give it value. :D As far as resale without a title, it's a mute point. As I've stated NH exempts older vehicles and as such the other 49 states have to abide by our laws. I've bought and resold a few non-titled vehicles for boardmembers in the past to get them around their state's more restrictive laws. Once it's "owned" in an exempt state, a purchaser in a state that requires paperwork, need only have a bill of sale and a copy of NH DMV's exempt statute to re-title. Anyway, good luck |
Well, I know people that have had issues here in Michigan regarding non-matching VIN numbers etc on old vehicles. Sounds like it is OK in other states.
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Project Truck
That would be 5hrs in what direction from NH? ;)
As already stated, it's already so far from "stock" what's the big deal on the vin tag? Sounds like a nice project. Take a friend or your wife (if applicable) on a day trip and check it out in person. Bring your trailer just in case it's really nice, save yourself a trip. |
VTblazer
A friend, a trailer and a day trip ( Not the wife, she just dosen't understand ) will be aranged. I'm waiting on some additional pic's and another phone conversation to negotiate the price. I guess I'm just looking for ways to get around the vin tag issue.
Gary |
PM sent :D
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If it had a vin tag, that price would be a really good deal. It just depends on what the laws are in your state. Personaly, since I live in californa, I would not even think about buying something with no vin tag, but it sounds like it may not matter where you live.
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Dmv
I'm going to give the NH DMV a call to see what they say about a vehicle that was built up from parts of different trucks.
Gary |
I spoke with NH DMV
Here's what the NH DMV told me! I would have to take the vehicle to NH salvage inspection station, where a registry officer would perform an inspection on the vehicle and take down any info he could find ( just to have on record ) and they would issue a NH VIN to the vehicle that would be a legal VIN number to be used for the remainder of the trucks existance.
He also said it would be a valid # to be used if the truck was sold in any other state. The number would not bet a CK##### number, he said it would start with NH and a series of numbers following that. So it would not be a " Matching Numbers Truck " but it would be legal. Gary |
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