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pcmcobra 02-23-2007 07:13 PM

More engine compartment and "what is this"?
 
Ok guys,
here are some more pics. I have been reading my manuals, chiltons and haynes, have not picked up a factory service manual YET...
Anyway, any help in identifying these would be a big help. On the carb pic, that white/off white looking connector (circled in red)...I barely touched that thing and the clip broke, so I zip tied it for now. Have no clue what it is/does...
The others...I have looked on the wiring diagrams, but they did not help me much, one diagram said oil pressure sensor...
One way or the other, I will know what these are and what they do. Hope this post helps others as well. Thx

Drivers side:
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n...F0014Small.jpg

Behind carb:
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n...012Small-3.jpg

Passenger side:
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n...010Small-1.jpg

Carb:
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n...007Small-2.jpg

Srubydo1986 02-23-2007 07:15 PM

Re: More engine compartment and "what is this"?
 
first pic on is temp sensor , 3rd pic is for oil probly tell u if ur low no clue i just hook it up

Restrorob 02-23-2007 07:31 PM

Re: More engine compartment and "what is this"?
 
The one in red is the map sensor, Yellow one is the AC idle solenoid to up the idle when the AC is turned on.....

pcmcobra 02-23-2007 07:57 PM

Re: More engine compartment and "what is this"?
 
thx guys, keep it coming! :)

Mickey_D 02-23-2007 09:23 PM

Re: More engine compartment and "what is this"?
 
One of the ones by the exhaust manifold (gray or orange) is going to be your ignition knock sensor.


Purple in the last pic is a temp sensor.

piecesparts 02-23-2007 10:10 PM

Re: More engine compartment and "what is this"?
 
The third one is the Knock sensor on the right hand side of the motor.

pcmcobra 02-23-2007 10:37 PM

Re: More engine compartment and "what is this"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Restrorob (Post 2045096)
The one in red is the map sensor, Yellow one is the AC idle solenoid to up the idle when the AC is turned on.....

Been looking online for a "replacement" connector plug for this. I must be searching wrong, but map sensor on all the big auto parts sites come up with one of those black rectangular maps with 2 mounting screws, nothing like the one pictured. Any ideas where I can get a new connector for it, or if I have to buy a new map, that's fine too.

Slonaker 02-23-2007 10:55 PM

Re: More engine compartment and "what is this"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Restrorob (Post 2045096)
The one in red is the map sensor

The red one isn't a MAP sensor. The truck does not have one in '86 (not sure about CA emissions) It controls a two stage accelerator pump or something like that. The temp switch in purple controls it.

Slonaker

Restrorob 02-23-2007 10:56 PM

Re: More engine compartment and "what is this"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pcmcobra (Post 2045329)
, but map sensor on all the big auto parts sites come up with one of those black rectangular maps with 2 mounting screws.

Sorry....That is not the map, That's the pump solenoid. I've only been out of the auto biz for 16 yrs. Try your local junk yards for a plug or try the dealer.

78Chevy 02-23-2007 10:57 PM

Re: More engine compartment and "what is this"?
 
I don't want to step on anybody's toes here, but... the "thing" circled in red is the mixture control solenoid for the carb... Try researching for a conector using this info.

Hope this helps.

Al

shrtbx 02-23-2007 11:01 PM

Re: More engine compartment and "what is this"?
 
yes 86 california models have a map sensor. From the looks of your carb you have an e4me (computer controlled carb). Which proboably means your car has ca emissons set up. the pump solenoid controls regulates your trucks engine at idle. Looks like you have a dual air smog tube set up as well.

Restrorob 02-23-2007 11:04 PM

Re: More engine compartment and "what is this"?
 
THIS is the red one;

http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductD...pe=904&ptset=A

78Chevy 02-23-2007 11:05 PM

Re: More engine compartment and "what is this"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shrtbx (Post 2045372)
yes 86 california models have a map sensor.

Maybe that is what the blue one is in the second pic.....

pcmcobra 02-23-2007 11:09 PM

Re: More engine compartment and "what is this"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 78Chevy (Post 2045360)
I don't want to step on anybody's toes here, but... the "thing" circled in red is the mixture control solenoid for the carb... Try researching for a conector using this info.

Hope this helps.

Al

thx, googling now...

shrtbx 02-23-2007 11:10 PM

Re: More engine compartment and "what is this"?
 
if it has a small vaccum hole leading into it then it proboably is the map sensor.

pcmcobra 02-23-2007 11:42 PM

Re: More engine compartment and "what is this"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shrtbx (Post 2045372)
yes 86 california models have a map sensor. From the looks of your carb you have an e4me (computer controlled carb). Which proboably means your car has ca emissons set up. the pump solenoid controls regulates your trucks engine at idle. Looks like you have a dual air smog tube set up as well.

it's not a CA equipped truck it was bought new in georgia...
but thx, you guys are "learnin'" me tonight. :)

shrtbx 02-23-2007 11:56 PM

Re: More engine compartment and "what is this"?
 
you do have a computer controlled carb though. A few states have same set up as california cars as far as smog goes. Just the tests are not as harsh as cali. I dont know if georgia is one of them. you just have one smog air tube on each side? It looks like it.

pcmcobra 02-23-2007 11:58 PM

Re: More engine compartment and "what is this"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shrtbx (Post 2045428)
you do have a computer controlled carb though. A few states have same set up as california cars as far as smog goes. Just the tests are not as harsh as cali. I dont know if georgia is one of them. you just have one smog air tube on each side? It looks like it.

hmmm. I need to look into this.
Where would the carb ecm be mounted?

shrtbx 02-24-2007 12:01 AM

Re: More engine compartment and "what is this"?
 
its usually mounted on the firewall...Look under your steering will in the cab...see if you have a aldl hook up. looks like a plug ..lots of lil prong holes

78Chevy 02-24-2007 12:11 AM

Re: More engine compartment and "what is this"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Restrorob (Post 2045378)

Sorry, I got lost in the confussion.:crazy: :lol: Your right.

Al

shrtbx 02-24-2007 12:18 AM

Re: More engine compartment and "what is this"?
 
any of you running thorley headers?

ChevyTech 02-24-2007 01:07 AM

Re: More engine compartment and "what is this"?
 
As for the red circle in the last photo:
I know that connecter looks just like the connector for the mixture control solenoid, on the computer controlled carburetors but, on a 1986 full size pickup they had a solenoid control dual capacity accelerator pump and that is what that connector is for. Notice there is no connector on the front of the carb for the TPS for a computer controlled carb. Also notice no idle air bleed screw or place for it.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Slonaker (Post 2045356)
The red one isn't a MAP sensor. The truck does not have one in '86 (not sure about CA emissions) It controls a two stage accelerator pump or something like that. The temp switch in purple controls it.
Slonaker

I agree with Slonaker no sensor Map on 86 full size pickup. Also right about it having a
dual capacity accelerator pump and the temp switch for it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by piecesparts (Post 2045283)
The third one is the Knock sensor on the right hand side of the motor.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey_D (Post 2045220)
One of the ones by the exhaust manifold (gray or orange) is going to be your ignition knock sensor. Purple in the last pic is a temp sensor.

piecesparts & Mickey_D, Yes - Applause for you both

First picture gray circle, I agree with Srubydo1986 , is the temp sender for the dash.

Slonaker 02-24-2007 01:13 AM

Re: More engine compartment and "what is this"?
 
[QUOTE=shrtbx;2045428]you do have a computer controlled carb though. QUOTE]

It is not a computer controlled carb. The electrical connector is for a dual capacity accelerator pump. It is just an '85-'86 thing on trucks. The carb model is an M4MED. You can read about it here:

http://www.73-87.com/7387garage/drivetrain/myqjet.htm

Try googling for M4MED and see what folks have to say about it.

Slonaker

EDIT: Thanks ChevyTech. You type faster than I do. :)

shrtbx 02-24-2007 01:23 AM

Re: More engine compartment and "what is this"?
 
are you saying for all 86 full size trucks there are no map sensors. My 86 silverado has one. Its a ca car. california pollution controlled carbs came with the e4me.

ChevyTech 02-24-2007 01:23 AM

Re: More engine compartment and "what is this"?
 
[QUOTE=Slonaker;2045582]
Quote:

Originally Posted by shrtbx (Post 2045428)
you do have a computer controlled carb though. QUOTE]

It is not a computer controlled carb. The electrical connector is for a dual capacity accelerator pump. It is just an '85-'86 thing on trucks. The carb model is an M4MED. You can read about it here:

http://www.73-87.com/7387garage/drivetrain/myqjet.htm

Try googling for M4MED and see what folks have to say about it.

Slonaker

EDIT: Thanks ChevyTech. You type faster than I do. :)

I am surprised you knew about it. I though everyone would be arguing with me about it.


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