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jkade 03-12-2007 08:53 PM

Is there a detailed tbi swap thread???
 
I was wondering what all I will need to get off the 91 suburban for the efi swap to my 86?? Will I have to change out the whole harness including the dash wiring? Will I have to have a electric speedo or can I keep the cable operated and my cluster? Will the tank from the suburban fit the rear of my swb truck?? I am going to use the 350 from the sub also and put a small cam and springs in it. Would it be easier to use the complete sub harness so I can convert to power windows and door locks? I am also converting to the 91 front end so will I need the whole headlight harness? Sorry so many threads, I need a lot of help:confused:
Thanks

Srubydo1986 03-12-2007 09:50 PM

Re: Is there a detailed tbi swap thread???
 
I was wondering what all I will need to get off the 91 suburban for the efi swap to my 86. Will I have to change out the whole harness including the dash wiring?

Its would be a good idea and i should make life easier

Will I have to have a electric speedo or can I keep the cable operated and my cluster?

Id put it on it might effect the computer some how

Will the tank from the suburban fit the rear of my swb truck??

Not shure i know a blazer will

Would it be easier to use the complete sub harness so I can convert to power windows and door locks?

Always If you want to have every option the suburban has id take anything it has in wiring.


I am also converting to the 91 front end so will I need the whole headlight harness? Sorry so many threads, I need a lot of help

That a good one but if ur going to use the dash harness then yes use it cause it will mount right were it was in the burban and save any headaches that come if u mod the stock harness to match a newer harness.


Hope this all helps

74 shortbed 406 03-13-2007 04:09 PM

Re: Is there a detailed tbi swap thread???
 
As far as the speedo is concerned, isn't the one in the burban cable driven also. My 87 tbi is cable driven. I think the burbans and blazers use the same stuff up to 91 or 92. I maybe wrong but I don't think I am.

jkade 03-13-2007 08:08 PM

Re: Is there a detailed tbi swap thread???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 74 shortbed 406 (Post 2073644)
As far as the speedo is concerned, isn't the one in the burban cable driven also. My 87 tbi is cable driven. I think the burbans and blazers use the same stuff up to 91 or 92. I maybe wrong but I don't think I am.

I looked today and the burb is electric. I guess I will just use all of the burb wiring.
Thanks

Russell 03-13-2007 08:48 PM

Re: Is there a detailed tbi swap thread???
 
Yep, I'd reccomend bolting the burb's electrical system into your truck. Should be pretty quick and simple to pull off, only needing to remove a few wires for the rear cabin lights, rear heater, tailgate window etc. I imagine they would all have connectors you can just un-plug, so you probally won't have to cut any wires.

If you arn't planning on using the burb's transmission, you will need to change your current transmission to an electric speed sensor. If your truck has a 700r4 as well, it will be very easy to just switch them out, just gotta press the toner ring on, and swap tailhousings.

Fuel shouldn't be half bad either, I'd personally reccomend you find an 87 to grab the EFI saddle tank off of, and it's fuel lines. You can bolt a Blazer tank in, but the burb tank will probally be too big.

jkade 03-13-2007 09:29 PM

Re: Is there a detailed tbi swap thread???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russell (Post 2074013)
Yep, I'd reccomend bolting the burb's electrical system into your truck. Should be pretty quick and simple to pull off, only needing to remove a few wires for the rear cabin lights, rear heater, tailgate window etc. I imagine they would all have connectors you can just un-plug, so you probally won't have to cut any wires.

If you arn't planning on using the burb's transmission, you will need to change your current transmission to an electric speed sensor. If your truck has a 700r4 as well, it will be very easy to just switch them out, just gotta press the toner ring on, and swap tailhousings.

Fuel shouldn't be half bad either, I'd personally reccomend you find an 87 to grab the EFI saddle tank off of, and it's fuel lines. You can bolt a Blazer tank in, but the burb tank will probally be too big.

The truck is a 4x4 and I am using a sm465 and a np 208, can I make the current trans and transfer case work?

Russell 03-13-2007 10:49 PM

Re: Is there a detailed tbi swap thread???
 
Bolt the NP241 that you've got onto the SM465. Assuming the NP241 is a 32 spline unit (may be 27 spline) it will bolt directly to your 465 using the 208 adapter, as we went over in your last thread.

Then you've got the proper VSS, and will only need to get driveshafts made.

You'll need to get your computer modified to work with a standard. The auto chips (proms) use a park neutral input, while the standard doesn't, and the manual has both different idle speeds, and IAC speeds.

jkade 03-14-2007 08:16 AM

Re: Is there a detailed tbi swap thread???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russell (Post 2074332)
Bolt the NP241 that you've got onto the SM465. Assuming the NP241 is a 32 spline unit (may be 27 spline) it will bolt directly to your 465 using the 208 adapter, as we went over in your last thread.

Then you've got the proper VSS, and will only need to get driveshafts made.

You'll need to get your computer modified to work with a standard. The auto chips (proms) use a park neutral input, while the standard doesn't, and the manual has both different idle speeds, and IAC speeds.

Who will reprogram the computer or do I just need a chip?
Thanks, kade

Russell 03-14-2007 09:52 AM

Re: Is there a detailed tbi swap thread???
 
There are a lot of different guys who can re-program your chip for you. I'd personally reccomend Brian at www.tbichips.com though. TBI is one of those annoying setups that is tough to bolt a newer flash chip onto, so you'd need to get the whole setup right down to the UV eraser if you wanted to burn them yourself


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