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paaw 06-25-2007 07:59 PM

what am i doing wrong
 
installed my ac compressor, made sure that it was coming on and engaging. Everything works fine, started trying to out freon in it, but it is not sucking it out of the can. The low side it the one on top of the compressor on a factory setup right :confused:

chico

EFI70Blazer 06-25-2007 08:05 PM

Re: what am i doing wrong
 
You still need to pull a vacuum on you system to get the freon in. You will need to rent, borrow, or buy a pump to do this.

paaw 06-25-2007 08:08 PM

Re: what am i doing wrong
 
where can u rent one, or buy one? what does it look like

eedgell 06-25-2007 08:11 PM

Re: what am i doing wrong
 
I would call it above the compressor yes, plus it is the only port that you can hook to with regular charging hose. Pressure side is a larger fitting. Having said that did you remove the plastic cups that block the intake and outlet on the back of the compessor where the main hoses bolt to the compressor and put pag oil in it before the install?

EFI70Blazer 06-25-2007 08:18 PM

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/R134A...37990841QQrdZ1

Here is one on Ebay. They are usually pretty cheap. Not sure on the quality of this item. I usually use an electric unit.

paaw 06-25-2007 08:19 PM

Re: what am i doing wrong
 
pulled it off another truck, so there was no plugs in it the first can i was trying to put in had pag oil in it

eedgell 06-25-2007 08:23 PM

Re: what am i doing wrong
 
hummm. I have done this same thing before with little to no problems. If you need a vacuum to get it to take freon, then why can you recharge a system that has leaked out? No vacuum there. The vacuum pump is for recovery, is it not?

EFI70Blazer 06-25-2007 08:30 PM

Re: what am i doing wrong
 
If you still have some freon left in there and the system was not opened, it will usually take freon. I have had better luck putting a vacuum on the system first. The pump is also not for recovery, basically it just removes moisture and puts vacuum on the system.

eedgell 06-25-2007 08:37 PM

Re: what am i doing wrong
 
Cool. Never done it that way on either a new pump or used pump install, but I will have to try it next time if it works better.[vacuum on the system]

paaw 06-25-2007 08:37 PM

Re: what am i doing wrong
 
do any part stores have it, wonder will a part store do it if I have my own freon

Basicfish 06-25-2007 08:54 PM

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I just normaly read the posts but when an a/c question comes up I will jump in. If you do not pull a complete vacuum on the system you will not get all of the moisture out, Also the vacuum will get all the air out. The air contains nitrogen which is a non compressable gas, with the nitrogen in the system it will heat up cause a higher than normal head pressure and it might work for a time but it will quit. here in Houston, Texas you can rent a vacuum pump from AutoZone. I have repaired many a/c's here and pulling the system down is key. PM me if you have any questions

eedgell 06-25-2007 08:59 PM

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Basicfish, Can you post how this vacuum process should be done?

paaw 06-25-2007 09:07 PM

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basicfish pm sent

retodd7711 06-25-2007 09:33 PM

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I second the request for a how-to

Basicfish 06-25-2007 10:58 PM

Re: what am i doing wrong
 
I will work up a how to recharge a system may be a few days I will have to get some photos

take care
Ron

paaw 06-27-2007 05:39 PM

Re: what am i doing wrong
 
went to the parts stores asking about a vaccum pump, and could I just pour the pag oil in the compressor since mine was not sucking it in, and they were no help they were asking dumb questions like do you have the air condition on and was I on the low side. Is there anywhere around Nashville that I can go and let the do it pretty reasonable

john 06-27-2007 06:36 PM

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paaw, the advice you got from basicfish is right on. One other thing is if the system was open to atmosphere for any amount of time the dryer will need replacing. It will be contaminated and not work. Heres a link that might be of help charging your A/C. Goood luck.


http://www.carcare.org/Climate_Control/ac_dryer.shtml

killer71 06-27-2007 06:42 PM

Re: what am i doing wrong
 
the vaccum pump is to pull a vaccum to pull unwanted moisture and to see if it will hold (any leaks). As for as the oil is concerned you can buy freon with the oil in it. you need to make sure you have the right oil and not to put too much.


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