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eedgell 09-17-2007 09:21 PM

What is the deal with "patina"?
 
We all know that "patina" is oxidation of non-ferrous metal, such as copper or brass. So why the link to these old trucks as rust? Just a cool name?

Longhorn Man 09-17-2007 09:30 PM

Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
 
it's a fad started by the magizines. A lot of people have always thought beaters were cool, and same with old school stuff, and rat rod stuff, and now, the latest craze is field rot/barn rot.
IMO, it's even more overused tan the term *rare* *mint* and *survivor*

stepside454 09-17-2007 09:30 PM

Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
 
apparently... I guess its a glam name for the rat rod crowd. I dont get it

sleepyboy 09-17-2007 09:32 PM

Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
 
patina=rust as to me saying, my income is challenging me for finishing my chevrolet build=I am BROKE, Too many bills!!

Longhorn Man 09-17-2007 09:50 PM

Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
 
rat rods don't need patina, and a patena'd car, isn't a rat rod.
however, they DO commonly go hand in hand.
I thought it was kinda interesting untill it spread like wildfire. i'm waiting for the socker moms to call the rust spot on there looser cruiser caravans patina. :rolleyes:

Bob 68327 09-17-2007 10:19 PM

Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
 
It's easier for me to say than org.paint faded rusty ol' Iowa POS !! I will restore my truck someday but can't afford it right now !!! I think my truck is cool as is . I guess it makes me feel good that other people think its cool also . I don't care what they call it !!! Patina or POS I bet they have second thoughts about it when I stand on It !!!!:)

weasel29gm 09-17-2007 10:23 PM

Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
 
I liked what Shane said in another thread, "Rust'' and " Patina'' is not the same.

greenhorn 09-17-2007 10:53 PM

Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
 
do only certain trucks (years, styles, location) do this
and does it actually rust thru.
I like it

eedgell 09-17-2007 11:37 PM

Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
 
It is just a butchering of the english language. Words have meanings. Rust is iron or steel, and patina is nonferous. If we need a cool name then lets create a new one. Not butcher an existing one. One day we wont be able to talk to people out of our click, because they wont undersand the different meanings of the same words.IMO

67_C-30 09-17-2007 11:50 PM

Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eedgell (Post 2363266)
It is just a butchering of the english language. Words have meanings. Rust is iron or steel, and patina is nonferous nonferrous -10 . If we need a cool name then let' -10s create a new one. Not butcher an existing one. One day we wont be able to talk to people out of our click clique -10, because they won' -10t undersand understand -10 the different meanings of the same words.IMO

I agree, we shouldn't butcher the english language!:hm: ;)

Longhorn Man 09-17-2007 11:59 PM

Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
 
It's the entire automotive hobby, not just truck guys.

corn 09-18-2007 12:01 AM

Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
 
I dont really care for rat rods but I do like beaters. Why go to the extreme to make something look like crap (tuna can tail lites & paint thinner can shifter consoles). I dont worry about using correct terms for certain types of vehicles & dont get all worked up if someone likes or doesnt like what I like or dont like. Ive seen enough bagged red short beds to appreciate my beat up old flat black long bed more & more every day. Its what makes the auto field great, if they all looked the same we would be very bored...

brak 09-18-2007 12:11 AM

Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Longhorn Man (Post 2363016)
...I thought it was kinda interesting untill it spread like wildfire. i'm waiting for the socker moms to call the rust spot on there looser cruiser caravans patina. :rolleyes:

liver spots be damned...
My grandparents have developed Patina :lol: :lol: :lol:

http://www.medical-definitions.net/i...iver_spots.jpg

Longhorn Man 09-18-2007 12:16 AM

Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
 
crap... that means I've developed it too. :( I am what I hate! :whine:

albertarose 09-18-2007 12:24 AM

Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
 
ferrous beuler says what he said mons:new:

2bits 09-18-2007 02:08 AM

Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
 
I like the term Patina, but I'm not all ape about it trying to get one :) I'll take that over bling anyday tho

Bishops Trucks 09-18-2007 03:22 AM

Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
 
I dated her in high school, haven't seen her since graduation!:lol:

68gmsee 09-18-2007 09:16 AM

Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
 
There are some people in the antique industry that like to see items in their original state. If you have an original 100 yr old piece of furniture, rifle, etc. and you refinish it, it diminishes the value tremendously.

The original paint, body panels, and interiors are desirable to some people. They want to see it in it's naturally aged state.

I guess it's like visiting your grandma and find out she was botoxed and had a facelift. Takes away from the "original" state or "patina"...

mvfd70 09-18-2007 12:53 PM

Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
 
Naturally aged is one thing. A rusty pile with body panels flapping in the wind is another.

I'm with some others, I don't mind beaters. I'd like to have one sometimes. But if your truck is a beater don't try to pass it off as a "patina" truck to try to make it sound better than it is. So what if its rusted. Drive it and enjoy it anyway.

wibilly 09-18-2007 01:12 PM

Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
 
it's a yuppys justifacation for driving a rusty beater. it just sounds better than rust

67ChevyRedneck 09-18-2007 01:28 PM

Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
 
What's sad, is that there are "fully restored" (all metalwork done to perfection) trucks running around with "patina" PAINTED on them. Classic Trucks did a feature on two such trucks not too long ago...

BurnoutNova 09-18-2007 01:43 PM

Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
 
i dont think he was trying to figure out why people like these trucks the way they do, just trying to figure out why the work is being misused

weasel29gm 09-18-2007 01:44 PM

Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
 
The only thing with a '' rusty '' ride is how bad? One that the rockers or bedsides is fallin' off is not '' rusty '' IMO. If its that bad,no offense if you own one. I consider 'em junk!!! At least fix the worse, some will tell how cool they are and laugh as you drive away!!!! New metal and primer is better than holes and dents.

68gmsee 09-18-2007 01:57 PM

Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 67ChevyRedneck (Post 2363853)
What's sad, is that there are "fully restored" (all metalwork done to perfection) trucks running around with "patina" PAINTED on them. Classic Trucks did a feature on two such trucks not too long ago...

:( Now that to me is crazy... Sort of like those antique dealers that purposefully distress their stuff to make it look older...

I think that rather than "patina" there ought to be another word like "truck with rustina." Or this truck has been "rustined" for newer trucks that have been patina'ed or patined. :crazy:

ChevLoRay 09-18-2007 02:20 PM

Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
 
Patina isn't rust. If it is rusty, it's rusty. Patina is the worn finish of a painted vehicle...or the appearance of a worn finish. To achieve a patina finish, you have to look at the body and see where the paint would wear first. Edges of doors; peaks of body contours, etc. Excessive compounding of the paint will cause the primer to show through the paint.

Hot Rod Magazine did a feature a few years ago to create the look of a barn find on a glass-bodied coupe. They sprayed the body, in specific places, to imitate the wear patterns that would be common. The paint on the body was black. They sprayed some red oxide primer to look like wear in the finish. The added a pin stripe and then "massaged" it too, to look worn. The overall effect was of a paint job that was at least 50 years old and from a barn find of a car.


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