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LockDoc 10-26-2008 08:35 PM

Installing Fender Emblems
 
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I'm sure this has been covered before but this will be a refresher.... :)

I ordered new fender emblems for the '72 GMC and they came with speed nuts. Since the fenders were already painted and installed on the truck I wasn't about to fight with the nuts, trying to screw them on the emblem studs behind the fender. I went to my local NAPA store and looked through the book for Tubular Nuts (Barrel Nuts) that would work. The first ones I found that were the right size were for a Chrysler and the NAPA part number was 665-1457. I told the parts man to go ahead and order them for me. They worked great and made easy work out of installing the emblems. The Tubular/Barrel Nuts were for 3/16" Stud Size, 7/32" Hole Size, with a Black Finish. I have included a picture for those who don't know what they look like. The picture also lists the manufacturers part numbers for GM & MoPar. The bold numbers are not the NAPA numbers. I jacked the pic off the internet.

LockDoc

piecesparts 10-26-2008 08:49 PM

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Screw the nuts, just get some 3M two side emblem foam adhesive and install the emblem without nuts. The 3M stuff will hold for a long time and if needed, it can be removed with a heat gun.

72BlckButy 10-26-2008 08:54 PM

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Thanks for the info Leon!

File this one away for later.... :lol:

chipflyer 10-26-2008 09:09 PM

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Nice tip Leon!

LockDoc 10-26-2008 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by piecesparts (Post 2946902)
Screw the nuts, just get some 3M two side emblem foam adhesive and install the emblem without nuts. The 3M stuff will hold for a long time and if needed, it can be removed with a heat gun.

At 60 bucks for the pair I'm not taking any chances on these baby's falling off. Plus I thought about that but it would make the emblems stick out away from the body too far for me.... :)

LockDoc

FRENCHBLUE72 10-27-2008 08:20 AM

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Thanks for the tip ill have to use that on my blazer emblems.

BigSky71 10-27-2008 01:03 PM

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I glued mine on, no rattle and less likely to fall off or get stolen.

basketcase 10-27-2008 01:59 PM

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Barrel nuts were widely used before the days of stick on mouldings and plates. As long as they are the right size they will not allow the emblem to be removed without access from the rear to squeeze the tabs with pliers.

special-K 10-28-2008 07:32 AM

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Now that`s slick.Beats the tar out of unbolting the fender and jamming your arm up there to loosen those speednuts somewhere up there.

Lanman1972 04-22-2018 03:07 PM

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Saving this for another day!

bill3rail 04-22-2018 05:33 PM

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Great Idea! Thank you,

I have been driving my truck for years without fender emblems because I did not want to pull the inner fenders.

I decided last week that I can get one nut on so I added some silicone to the other side to hold them. I was planning on removing the inner fenders to get the second nut on for security. I am still going to remove the inner fenders just because I want to inspect under them.

custom10nut 04-22-2018 06:38 PM

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So Doc, do these fit flush and hold tight? The reason for asking is I've read that they leave a gap between the emblem and fender. If they do fit flush "I'm on it like a seagull on a dead fish". And thanks for the part number:metal:

LockDoc 04-22-2018 07:47 PM

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No problem guys. Thanks.

custom10nut: You can see how the fit is in the picture in post #1. That is one of the actual emblems I installed. These were aftermaket emblems so I'm not sure if they are made exactly like the originals or not. The only thing that sticks up is the small flange at the top of the tube nut. That is what keeps it from pushing all the way through the hole. The ones I used fit tight, in fact I had to clean the paint out of the holes in the sheet metal to be able to get them in....

If anyone has any problems with the install with these please post it in this thread...

Thanks
LockDoc

custom10nut 04-22-2018 08:57 PM

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Well, I'm off to NAPA in the morning:metal:

jessemthompson 04-23-2018 03:49 PM

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I did this exact thing a little over a year ago. It works great. Nice tight fit too.

tim71 04-23-2018 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by LockDoc (Post 2946873)
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I'm sure this has been covered before but this will be a refresher.... :)

I ordered new fender emblems for the '72 GMC and they came with speed nuts. Since the fenders were already painted and installed on the truck I wasn't about to fight with the nuts, trying to screw them on the emblem studs behind the fender. I went to my local NAPA store and looked through the book for Tubular Nuts (Barrel Nuts) that would work. The first ones I found that were the right size were for a Chrysler and the NAPA part number was 665-1457. I told the parts man to go ahead and order them for me. They worked great and made easy work out of installing the emblems. The Tubular/Barrel Nuts were for 3/16" Stud Size, 7/32" Hole Size, with a Black Finish. I have included a picture for those who don't know what they look like. The picture also lists the manufacturers part numbers for GM & MoPar. The bold numbers are not the NAPA numbers. I jacked the pic off the internet.

LockDoc

I'm curious, what year and trim level used that emblem? Thanks, Tim

demian5 04-23-2018 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by piecesparts (Post 2946902)
Screw the nuts, just get some 3M two side emblem foam adhesive and install the emblem without nuts. The 3M stuff will hold for a long time and if needed, it can be removed with a heat gun.

I did that on my Impala

custom10nut 04-30-2018 10:38 PM

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Finally made it to NAPA today. $5 for a pkt of 16. Score!:metal:

Sanduners 04-30-2018 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by custom10nut (Post 8251633)
Finally made it to NAPA today. $5 for a pkt of 16. Score!:metal:

And the Napa part number is???

LockDoc 04-30-2018 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sanduners (Post 8251654)
And the Napa part number is???


Did you read the first post in this thread?

LockDoc

Sanduners 04-30-2018 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by LockDoc (Post 8251660)
Did you read the first post in this thread?

LockDoc

I did, sorry I will assume that the "NAPA part number was 665-1457" is still the one after nearly 10 years. Thanks

custom10nut 05-01-2018 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Sanduners (Post 8251696)
I did, sorry I will assume that the "NAPA part number was 665-1457" is still the one after nearly 10 years. Thanks

The part number is good. My store has them hanging on a display along with all sorts of other special nuts/screws/and fasteners.

Killer Bee 05-01-2018 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by piecesparts (Post 2946902)
Screw the nuts, just get some 3M two side emblem foam adhesive and install the emblem without nuts. The 3M stuff will hold for a long time and if needed, it can be removed with a heat gun.

yep, if not performing a 100% restoration, you can spare the holes and the chances of mislocating them..

good gouge on the inserts LockDoc but that type of tension hardware can loosen in time and you only get one shot with the drill unless using existing holes..

this stuff is only .045" thick.. it's called booger tape and I've used it to install placards in the wheel wells and underwing of aircraft per Boeing spec.. yep, it's tough enough to hold an emblem on yer pickup ;)

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Originally Posted by Killer Bee (Post 8117817)
3M VHB [Very High Bond] is available in different widths, thicknesses, and colors..

example on amazon 3M Scotch 4950 VHB Tape: 1 in. x 15 ft. (White)


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Sanduners 05-02-2018 11:19 PM

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I had to order mine. These worked out great! Fit in the fender holes, snapped in place and emblems are on tight and flush. :) Plan to use on the :gmc2: hood emblems too.

Thanks again Leon for doing the research.

LockDoc 05-03-2018 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Sanduners (Post 8253246)
I had to order mine. These worked out great! Fit in the fender holes, snapped in place and emblems are on tight and flush. :) Plan to use on the :gmc2: hood emblems too.

Thanks again Leon for doing the research.

No problem. Thanks for posting back with your results.....

LockDoc


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