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slimneverdies 01-20-2009 01:11 AM

For the MII guys
 
I wanted to know if I can use the front sway bar off of 73-79 mustang to put on my Heidts MII suspension for a AD truck? I see one for $30 used but wasnt sure if it would work. Are all of the aftermarket MII suspension the same width? I see most companies sell the new for our trucks from $170-$280

Bob@ProAuto 01-20-2009 07:58 AM

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The mustang based suspension you have is an 1974-78 or 1974-80 Pinto/Bobcat. These sway bars have a 4" drop in the middle that would be to close to the ground. Most of us that build Mustang based suspensions have our own sway bars designed to fit. Since it's a Heidt's kit, I'd suggest calling them and find out about theirs first.

solidaxel 01-20-2009 09:23 AM

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It can be used but it will need some tweeking, and it will show from the front, you will also have to make different end links and a bracket for the lower arm

slimneverdies 01-20-2009 11:13 AM

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Thanks. I guess I should just buy the one they sell for the kit. I dont want to make anything more difficult then it already is

slimneverdies 01-22-2009 04:55 PM

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Could I see some pics of sway bars installed on the AD trucks with the mustang ll suspension. Mine will be bagged so Im not sure if that makes a big difference with the bar that I choose.

Thanks

solidaxel 01-22-2009 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by slimneverdies (Post 3101921)
Could I see some pics of sway bars installed on the AD trucks with the mustang ll suspension. Mine will be bagged so Im not sure if that makes a big difference with the bar that I choose.

Thanks


These were on my computer I don't know if you can see the sway bar or not, but this is a Mll "tweeked" and new brackets on the lower arm, and it works good

solidaxel 01-22-2009 06:54 PM

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Forgot to press a key !!!

solidaxel 01-22-2009 07:14 PM

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I found another one!

tobins 52 gmc 01-22-2009 09:48 PM

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Ha Solidaxel what front end are you using

solidaxel 01-22-2009 11:39 PM

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All of the bolt on parts are Mll. Bilstine shocks Chevelle 11" brakes and the crossmember is home grown back in 1991 T-bird rack

tobins 52 gmc 01-24-2009 05:53 PM

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solidaxel got any more pictures thanks Robert

solidaxel 01-24-2009 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tobins 52 gmc (Post 3105433)
solidaxel got any more pictures thanks Robert

What area do you want to see, I have a few stored.

tobins 52 gmc 01-25-2009 11:06 AM

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Solidaxel would you have more pictures of your front end ,thanks Robert

solidaxel 01-25-2009 11:28 AM

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This is all I could find on this disc.
What area are you looking at?

tobins 52 gmc 01-25-2009 11:38 AM

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Looking good ,Thanks for the pictures .I am trying to install a 1974 mustang front end ,turning down the spindles for gm rotors .But have a question about the torque arms ,if i need them or not ,has anyone done this if so some info would be good Thanks Robert

solidaxel 01-25-2009 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tobins 52 gmc (Post 3106614)
Looking good ,Thanks for the pictures .I am trying to install a 1974 mustang front end ,turning down the spindles for gm rotors .But have a question about the torque arms ,if i need them or not ,has anyone done this if so some info would be good Thanks Robert

? Why are you turning down the Mustang spindles?

tobins 52 gmc 01-25-2009 10:15 PM

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A friend of mine,his brother is an old time hot rod guy and he told me that if you were to removre about .010 you could ues gm rotors, don't know for sure but will check it out before hand

tobins 52 gmc 01-25-2009 10:21 PM

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Just looking at your picture again and noticed that you have the same torque bars,what did you use to mount them .Do you have any pictures of them . How do you like the handling on the road .Thanks Robert

solidaxel 01-26-2009 12:35 AM

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I think we should take this to another location as we have hijacked slimneverdies post.......... SORRY !

slimneverdies 01-26-2009 12:54 AM

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No!!!! its perfect. Tobins 52 is asking the same questions that I would be if he didnt beat me to the punch. Another thing, you said that the bar would show from the front? Example please

solidaxel 01-26-2009 01:50 AM

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Yes the bar is visable but not by much for the price !!
It is a little low but it keeps you from running in to far and hitting the parking bumpers!!
I looked for some pics but I didn't find any of the center of the bar, I will see what I can do when I find my camera.

As for the strut rods I am using some 1/4"plate for the vertical support with a gussett up to the frame. This mount is VERY critical as it holds all the braking force, so make damn sure you have some good welds!!!!
As for handling, it has been on the truck since the early 90's and has over 100K on it and I love it, tthe rack and pinion is great for in town and the Bilstine shocks made the biggest improvement in the ride. On the freeway it is one handed at speed with the T-bird rack.

The 53 that I am building I am using the Dodge Dakota, why, because Steve at Industrial Chassis who makes the crossmember made some very good points when I was looking for suspension components for this build. The dodge is a truck and the same width as our AD's and it is much heavier DUTY than the Mll, and has the right geometry, and the bolt on parts are inexpensive, and it has RACK and PINION. The bolt pattern is Ford which will match the rear which is 9" Ford. I do not have this on the road yet but it was very easy to install and the price for everything including the rebuild, ball joints, bushings, rack rebuilt and it uses a chevy PS pump!

I found some more pics but not the ones I was looking for. The Dakota in mock up but you can see the sway bar on the dakota front end in place. The other one is another one of the 55 and you can not see the sway bar at that angle, but it is visable at a distance

tobins 52 gmc 01-26-2009 10:08 PM

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Thanks Solidaxel for your time ,great info also thanks to Slimneverdies for your trend .When i get mine installed i will post some pictures .Hope you guys are enjoying the weather down there ,here it is about -15 c below during the day, Thanks Robert

slimneverdies 01-26-2009 10:34 PM

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Wow -15 degrees. I remeber those days back in Chicago when I use to be a cable guy. That weather is not for me anymore. Besides you only get 3-4 good months to really work on the trucks:(

Im trying to lay mine in the weeds Solidaxel. Are you saying this wont work for that? The mustang bar

solidaxel 01-28-2009 08:25 PM

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If you are going that low I would not suggest it. Save your lunch money and go for the right one, if you are running a bumper and there are curbs where you are that low will be "fun"

slimneverdies 01-28-2009 09:00 PM

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God advice! Im running airbags so speed bumps wont be a issue. Thats alot of duckets for a bar:waah:


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