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jgh64pkup 08-03-2009 01:51 PM

hp estimate please
 
can someone give me a horsepower estimate on my engine

350 .060 over 5 cc flat tops
3.48 stroke (360 ci)
487 heads fully ported
lift int ex
.050 31 22
.100 59 51
.200 119 102
.300 173 133
.400 207 144
.500 213 146
.600 215 146
multiply by .20 for the porting
75 cc combustion chamber
9 to 1 compression
1.94 int 1.50 ex valves
crane energizer 284 adv dur. .480 lift
double roller timing chain
harland sharp 1.5 roller rockers
stock valve springs
edelbrock performer rpm port matched to heads
holley 600cfm vacuum secondary carb
accel hei dist accel superstock wires stock coil ngk plugs
1 5/8 to 3 in collector headers 3 in h pipe and delta forcce flowmasters
belt driven water pump and alternator
electric fan
any help would be great
thanks

jgh64pkup 08-06-2009 04:46 PM

Re: hp estimate please
 
will this engine handle 5-7 psi of boost

mongoose 08-06-2009 05:40 PM

Re: hp estimate please
 
doubt it.

jgh64pkup 08-06-2009 06:09 PM

Re: hp estimate please
 
why is that
how much boost can it handle

mongoose 08-06-2009 09:52 PM

Re: hp estimate please
 
1?

what crank do you have? pistons? rods? iron heads with small valves don't really help things with a 9:1..

or a vac. secondary carb..

jgh64pkup 08-06-2009 09:59 PM

Re: hp estimate please
 
it has cast rods cast crank and hyperutectic keith black pistons

68 C-10 KID 08-07-2009 12:31 AM

Re: hp estimate please
 
Any time you want to make some HP never Run hyperutectic.
Go Forged with a good skirt.
looks to me around a 365 Hp+ motor

Marv D 08-07-2009 10:05 AM

Re: hp estimate please
 
Where did you find 'cast' rods for a sbc?????

jgh64pkup 08-07-2009 10:53 AM

Re: hp estimate please
 
whatever stock are
what are the stock ones

Marv D 08-07-2009 06:13 PM

Re: hp estimate please
 
All the GM small block rods are forged. The 'almost' exception is the powered metal rods. That process doesn't actually qualify as a true forging, but it isn't cast either. I though you found some super cheepie crazy imported cast rod was why I asked.

As you were already cautioned, don't even think about boost or nitrous with hypereutectic pistons. The will turn back to sand in the blink of an eye under detonation.

I've ran cast 350 cranks to 7600rpm in a 400-425HP nitrous boosted small block, using GM X rods w/ ARP bolts. Went through nearly 400 pounds of nitrous on that poor little motor. Then sold it to a guy who is still racing it in a shoebox Nova. The cast crank is an incredibilly durable piece IF the assembly is balanced an oiled properly.

oh... IMO, whomever is telling you they can get a 20% increase on a set of GM stock heads with porting,, is being a little optimistic. Maybe in a very very well developed cnc program. But the cost would be waranted only in a class that dictated a stock casting,, again just IMO

dammitmitchell 08-07-2009 10:26 PM

Re: hp estimate please
 
see bro.. i warned yas!
diddnt know about that style of piston but, i would not turbo a mostly stock 350...
diferent pistons/rings (smaller gap set chromoly etc..) and aluminum heads (ones designed for boost)
and then you can roll....
but... if you are going to boost i wouldnt half ass it i would get a donor block (50 bucks on our abilene craigslist) with a 4 bolt main... overbore it and sleeve it (so the cylinders can handle all the pressure and fun stuff in there)
and then slowly build a motor over time (spare time you got a few years) and then. go with a good efi system from a newwer truck etc...
and make dang sure its an OBDII system so you can computer tune and control everything..


in my experience.. and watching friends with money do it.. (lucky jerks) it will cost 7-9 grand total for turbo, motor all parts...
and a couple o girlfriends....

mongoose 08-07-2009 11:49 PM

Re: hp estimate please
 
you can run boost to a stock set up..

hot rod did it a couple years ago, with one of the pos 2K dollar gm long blocks.. only put 5 lbs to it.. with a VERY conservative tune.. but it's just not worth the set up and expense..

dammitmitchell 08-08-2009 05:11 AM

Re: hp estimate please
 
hey i just noticed...
why in the world are you running "stock vulve springs"....
you gotta have some good old valve float goin on.....

jgh64pkup 08-08-2009 10:33 AM

Re: hp estimate please
 
the people here say they have done it and ran it for over 3 years
check the link at the bottom of the page link
how much can the stock rods take
so if i get some forged pistons i will be fine for 7 psi

jgh64pkup 08-08-2009 10:36 AM

Re: hp estimate please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dammitmitchell (Post 3452881)
see bro.. i warned yas!
diddnt know about that style of piston but, i would not turbo a mostly stock 350...
diferent pistons/rings (smaller gap set chromoly etc..) and aluminum heads (ones designed for boost)
and then you can roll....
but... if you are going to boost i wouldnt half ass it i would get a donor block (50 bucks on our abilene craigslist) with a 4 bolt main... overbore it and sleeve it (so the cylinders can handle all the pressure and fun stuff in there)
and then slowly build a motor over time (spare time you got a few years) and then. go with a good efi system from a newwer truck etc...
and make dang sure its an OBDII system so you can computer tune and control everything..


in my experience.. and watching friends with money do it.. (lucky jerks) it will cost 7-9 grand total for turbo, motor all parts...
and a couple o girlfriends....

my next build will be a 6.0 with stock crank scat 4340 rods and mahle pistons this is just for now

Quote:

Originally Posted by dammitmitchell (Post 3453230)
hey i just noticed...
why in the world are you running "stock vulve springs"....
you gotta have some good old valve float goin on.....

you can send me your valvesprings

mongoose 08-08-2009 02:02 PM

Re: hp estimate please
 
to be brutally honest man.. the motor is a 50 dollar back yard throw together.

it's not going to put down lots of power.. and it's not gonna hold any boost, but hey it's your motor and you can do w/e you want with it.

dammitmitchell 08-08-2009 04:50 PM

Re: hp estimate please
 
its just my opinion bro.. but i wouldnt bother....
if you can get that turbo for cheap.. wither store it for a while OR flip it on ebay for some profit...

jgh64pkup 08-09-2009 10:03 AM

Re: hp estimate please
 
i got the turbo for free i am going to keep it but im going to get my truck on the road and painted first
so does anyone have a hp and tq estimate


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