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PA-IndianRider 09-27-2009 06:34 AM

New Hedman Headers - Leaking
 
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Finally got the engine & tranny (5 speed) in my '80 EL C ..... this week installed a brand new set of HEDMAN HEADERS (yes they fit) and a "X-Pipe" 2 1/2 exhaust system.

Now that the car is quiet enough to hear what is going on I can hear/see there is a leak between the left side header & head.

For the install new gaskets were used along with new headers bolts and all bolts torqued down.

Has anyone else had trouble with HEDMAN HEADERS like this???? Any suggestions for a "fix" or will I have to replace the header???

ripdog28 09-27-2009 07:33 AM

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Remove the header, use a level/flat surface and ensure the mounting flange is straight. It not, pound it flat or weld to build it up. or just use more gasket in that area.

jamis 09-27-2009 09:09 AM

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Try it again with a new gasket and if that dont work
return the headers, they are brand new and I'm sure you spent enough on them not to have to fiddle with it.

Alex1 09-27-2009 09:17 AM

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You can toss the gaskets and use the high temp rtv sealer.

Marv D 09-27-2009 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex1 (Post 3539701)
You can toss the gaskets and use the high temp rtv sealer.

It really does work. I haven't used a header gasket on the Nova in years,, just the orange Permetex hitemp. BUT, those are Lemons headers with a nice thick flat flange and Stal bolt pattern, track only car. I've never tired it on a set of street headers. How does it hold up on the street and or a daily driver Alex?

PA-IndianRider 09-27-2009 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Marv D (Post 3539816)
It really does work. I haven't used a header gasket on the Nova in years, just the orange Permetex hitemp ...... BUT........track only car........ I've never tired it on a set of street headers. How does it hold up on the street and or a daily driver Alex?

I have thought about trying the "Orange Permetex Hi-Temp" but also wonder how it holds up for "daily use".

So I "assume" the Permetex would be used "without" the gasket???

fiddy9apache 09-27-2009 02:39 PM

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are you using the header gaskets that came with the headers? if so i would change them out to a thicker set of percys or felpros.

RatPwrd72 09-27-2009 08:53 PM

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I have the same problem with a set of Hedman's on my 454 in the '72. These are their $89 street headers and I have to run 2 gaskets on each side to make it seal. The tube of the primary tube sticks out past the flange a bit and causes them to leak like a *****..........

Wild83C10 09-27-2009 09:12 PM

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Did the headers leak right away or after a couple of heat cycles? THe gasket will set and the bolts will loosen up. If there was a couple of heat cycles on the motor you may want to check the bolts again. Typically takes 2 or 3 re-torques to get them to stay tight.

PA-IndianRider 09-27-2009 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Wild83C10 (Post 3540554)
Did the headers leak right away or after a couple of heat cycles? THe gasket will set and the bolts will loosen up. If there was a couple of heat cycles on the motor you may want to check the bolts again. Typically takes 2 or 3 re-torques to get them to stay tight.

Not sure.... ran it a few times with "open headers" ..... could hear it until the exhaust system was on.

Will work on it tomorrow....

Alex1 09-28-2009 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Marv D (Post 3539816)
It really does work. I haven't used a header gasket on the Nova in years,, just the orange Permetex hitemp. BUT, those are Lemons headers with a nice thick flat flange and Stal bolt pattern, track only car. I've never tired it on a set of street headers. How does it hold up on the street and or a daily driver Alex?

I ran it that way for 2 years on my Turbo Mustang - no issues. My truck still has gaskets because thats the way I bought it and they're not leaking. When they do, RTV sealer is going on.

Wild83C10 09-28-2009 08:29 PM

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I have had three sets of hedman headers on my truck and never had an issue. They were the cheaper ones to.

djracer 09-28-2009 09:52 PM

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If all else fails cut the flanges on either side of the two center primarys. I have seen this done on small blocks. I assume it lets them flex a little.

cableguy0 09-28-2009 11:45 PM

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as stated earlier the crap paper gaskets that come with headers will leak. get a set of fel pro header gaskets and you wont have any more issues

Wild83C10 09-29-2009 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cableguy0 (Post 3542713)
as stated earlier the crap paper gaskets that come with headers will leak. get a set of fel pro header gaskets and you wont have any more issues

I am running hedman street headers with the crap paper gaskets and no leaks, had them on there for 1.5 years.
I also retorqued them after a few heat cylces and I have a good flat head surface that they bolt to.


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